Somali Pirate seize US vessel

TEKTITE · Post by **TEKTITE** » 08 Apr 2009, 05:12

Look at this crap: http://www.military.com/news/article/so ... ESRC=eb.nl" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

These pirates seize a ship, USING SMALL BOATS, 280 MILES off the coast. That's a LOOOOONG way in the small, open boats the are shown favoring.

I realize the difficulties with radar on such small targets, but I thought we had some Frigates in the area. Why wasn't this ship "shadowed"? This is just the latest seizure in a very busy pirate week.

Llagoud · Post by **Llagoud** » 08 Apr 2009, 05:15

Thomas Jefferson didn't put up with that crap.

We'll probably pay the ransom. :furious:

Post by **jmz5** » 08 Apr 2009, 05:17

:furious:
How do those little boats survive the open ocean? :huh:

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 08 Apr 2009, 05:23

They launch from mother craft.

What we NEED to do is get to the root of whatever socio-economic factors come into play in turning these people IN to pirates.

Just kidding. Sink em all.

EARS · Post by **EARS** » 08 Apr 2009, 05:29

The AOL report said the nearest US Ship is 345 miles away. The seized ship was "not in our patroled area". The pirates will keep it up, no one is stopping them.

EmptyBrass · Post by **EmptyBrass** » 08 Apr 2009, 06:31

I'm with wally on this. Its an act of terrorism against us. Sink them, and hold kenya responsible if they do not intervene.

TEKTITE · Post by **TEKTITE** » 08 Apr 2009, 07:11

Wollychop wrote:They launch from mother craft.

Oh, no; I KNEW motherships would have something to do with this. :laugh: :laugh:
Any volunteers to splash those mothers?

edit: hey, 57 posts; whoo-hoo! :monkey:

Post by **MrSlippyFist** » 08 Apr 2009, 07:16

Just as I feel about the California gang problem, give me a couple aircraft, ammunition and immunity - and I can make this all go away.

TEKTITE · Post by **TEKTITE** » 08 Apr 2009, 07:18

MrSlippyFist wrote:Just as I feel about the California gang problem, give me a couple aircraft, ammunition and immunity - and I can make this all go away.

Airwolf's never around when you need it. :agree:

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 08 Apr 2009, 08:00

HAHAHAHA the crew has overpowered their enemies.

Awesome. :patriot:

Post by **f3rr37** » 08 Apr 2009, 08:02

USA USA USA :clap:

TEKTITE · Post by **TEKTITE** » 08 Apr 2009, 08:18

Pentagon: U.S. crew regains control of ship from pirates

AWESOME! :patriot:

Wait a min. MAERSK press conf. says retake is unconfirmed?

Go get 'em. :guns:

TEKTITE · Post by **TEKTITE** » 08 Apr 2009, 08:59

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04 ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Looks like it's confirmed. Another CCW success story, do ya' think? :clap: :clap: :clap: :patriot:

TEKTITE · Post by **TEKTITE** » 08 Apr 2009, 10:08

satellitedr3ams wrote:how many of them did we send to the bottom of the sea like we should?

Not enough.

What do you call 500 pirates on the bottom of the sea?

A good start. :laugh:

Post by **f3rr37** » 08 Apr 2009, 10:15

Looks like the Captain of the ship is being held hostage

dawgfan · Post by **dawgfan** » 08 Apr 2009, 10:25

The article said the crew has one pirate in captivity, and the rest were in the ocean. We can hope that means floating faces down. :patriot:

Mister Freeze · Post by **Mister Freeze** » 08 Apr 2009, 10:44

My old AR10 with an undermounted M203 + 5 cases of black-tips= safe ship. I'm sure there's some retarded maritime laws keeping contractors off these ships. The size of these ships makes picking off these little boats pretty easy, IF you have the weaponry. 2-4 man teams could do it easily. And anything goes in international waters... Oh, wait; maybe we should build them schools and hospitals as our warfighting tactic.

dawgfan · Post by **dawgfan** » 08 Apr 2009, 10:57

Sh!t no. Sign'em up for ACORN and make'em volunteer for their money. :monkey:

C141FE · Post by **C141FE** » 08 Apr 2009, 12:13

When I first heard this story I was hoping we had some of our guys concealing themselves in the containers as a trap. I would have given almost anything to see the looks on those scum bags faces when out pops some of our guys. :guns:

fatherfoof · Post by **fatherfoof** » 08 Apr 2009, 12:35

Fox reports until now they were afraid of US flagged ships. Now with Obama they know we won't use our might. One missile would take out the mothership. Then those in a smallcraft with the hostage could be given a choice from an overhead asset whether or not they want to live.

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 08 Apr 2009, 12:37

Bullshite. YOu watch, no matter with the Prez daddy says, the USN Cruiser TF in the area will respond. Some team guys will take that ship, no question. Navy will go a pirate huntin.

fatherfoof · Post by **fatherfoof** » 08 Apr 2009, 12:41

Hope so. It still is a factual matter of record the hundreds of ships attacked to date never were American until now.

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 08 Apr 2009, 12:44

That is true. Not arguing that. Just saying the pirates made a bad assumption, that is all. I agree,they did it because they have a distant cousin in the WH. But being an ex Navy guy, there is no way they get away with it. :guns:

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 08 Apr 2009, 12:55

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7990566.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Didn't even have to wait for the frogmen. Captain still held though. :clap:

Post by **panzermk2** » 08 Apr 2009, 13:33

TEKTITE wrote:
Wollychop wrote:They launch from mother craft.
Oh, no; I KNEW motherships would have something to do with this. :laugh: :laugh:
Any volunteers to splash those mothers?

edit: hey, 57 posts; whoo-hoo! :monkey:

India already has and in International waters. They are taking point on this. India has ordered 10 fast attack Frigates just for going after pirates.

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 09 Apr 2009, 07:02

News reports this morning that President Obama declined to answer questions on this issue, stating that he wants to "remain focused on the housing crisis."

:skep:

Post by **f3rr37** » 09 Apr 2009, 07:11

Housing crisis? There is no fricking housing crisis, the economy is in the shitter, everything is a damn crisis to politicians now. :wall:

EmptyBrass · Post by **EmptyBrass** » 09 Apr 2009, 07:13

Wollychop wrote:News reports this morning that President Obama declined to answer questions on this issue, stating that he wants to "remain focused on the housing crisis."

:skep:

in other words, no balls, no spine. Doesnt want to hurt some feelings.

I'd figure out where the turnds are and test some anti ship missles on them on thier arses. Mess with the US freighters mess with the whole country. We dont tolerate the crap.

But obama is chicken poo.

Post by **MrSlippyFist** » 09 Apr 2009, 07:18

Saw a picture of Obama in a dark superman suit and the caption said .."And I'll do nothing about it!"

That would work great here.... but i'm too lazy to look for it. Damn coffee crisis has got me down.

Llagoud · Post by **Llagoud** » 09 Apr 2009, 08:08

Wollychop wrote:News reports this morning that President Obama declined to answer questions on this issue, stating that he wants to "remain focused on the housing crisis."

:skep:

Ah, another "Present" vote.

dawgfan · Post by **dawgfan** » 09 Apr 2009, 09:16

Wollychop wrote:News reports this morning that President Obama declined to answer questions on this issue, stating that he wants to "remain focused on the housing crisis."

:skep:

Ooooh K! New Obama mystery: how did a fellow with no testicles get his wife pregnant twice? :laugh: See ya'll in the re-education camp. I'll be the one in an old Georgia Bulldog tee shirt. :monkey:

Post by **panzermk2** » 09 Apr 2009, 18:42

Did you guys hear that recording of our Sec of State. The stupid bitch was giggling about the pirates during a press conference about them.

We are so screwed.

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 09 Apr 2009, 18:46

It really is amateur hour.

Only the stakes are life and death

fatherfoof · Post by **fatherfoof** » 09 Apr 2009, 18:57

When he threatened North Korea that if they'd launch we'd watch them it sent a BIG signal. Less than a week and the first US flagged ship is attacked. We obviously knew in minutes where the mothership was and should have sunk it with a missile. No fuel to get the 28 footer to shore over 300 miles away would have been motivation to surrender the captain they took. Now, we have Hilly gigglin'. We're screwed and we didn't get kissed first.

Post by **Cyberfly** » 09 Apr 2009, 19:10

Okay.
So...we hire a friggin Voo-Dooer to do a seance (sp?) and we BEG Ronnie Reagan to come back from the other side and 'possess' this asshat. Tell him that God would approve and the entire country NEEDS him. DESPERATELY!!
Think he'd go for it?

fatherfoof · Post by **fatherfoof** » 09 Apr 2009, 19:15

Is Heath short for Heathen? :lmao: :lmao: :p You're right. RR would be able to fix this mess post haste.

Post by **Cyberfly** » 09 Apr 2009, 19:41

My mother thought so after about age....six?

Llagoud · Post by **Llagoud** » 10 Apr 2009, 04:29

Pirate ships converge on US hostage at sea

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090410/ap_ ... piracy_118" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Escalating a dramatic Indian Ocean standoff, more U.S. warships — as well as pirate reinforcements with an international gallery of hostages — rushed Friday toward the spot where four Somali bandits are holding a U.S. sea captain aboard a drifting lifeboat.

The pirates apparently fear being shot or arrested if they hand over Capt. Richard Phillips — captured in a failed effort to seize the Maersk Alabama on Wednesday — and hope to link up with their colleagues who are using Russian, German, Filipino and other hostages captured in recent days as human shields.

"All we need, first, is a safe route to escape with the captain, and then (negotiate) ransom later," he added.

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 10 Apr 2009, 05:21

Llagoud · Post by **Llagoud** » 10 Apr 2009, 07:02

I heard that the Captain made an escape attempt, jumped and swam, and we failed to take to opportunity to sink the boat. He was recaptured.

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 10 Apr 2009, 07:11

Llagoud wrote:I heard that the Captain made an escape attempt, jumped and swam, and we failed to take to opportunity to sink the boat. He was recaptured.

Yup. I'd love to see a copy of their ROE.

TEKTITE · Post by **TEKTITE** » 10 Apr 2009, 09:29

Llagoud wrote:I heard that the Captain made an escape attempt, jumped and swam, and we failed to take to opportunity to sink the boat. He was recaptured.

CAPT. PHILLIPS, :patriot: Finest kind.

fatherfoof · Post by **fatherfoof** » 10 Apr 2009, 11:01

Can you imagine the frustration level of the navy guys watching this with their hands tied by Obama?

johngfj60 · Post by **johngfj60** » 10 Apr 2009, 11:11

What could they do? Send the Seals in underwater?

Post by **panzermk2** » 10 Apr 2009, 11:12

Bama was to busy reading a teleprompter to answer the phone and give the tentative OK to tentatively shoot the boat BUT not the pirates in anyway.

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 10 Apr 2009, 11:29

There are more than just SEALS. There are marine teams specifically trained in counterterrorist operations and ship boarding, specifically for situtations like this in these naval units. (not force Recon, mind you)

Keep in mind one of the first things that happened was the dispatching of an FBI team and negotiator. The view of the administration, I think it's fair to conclude, is that this is a criminal matter and not a military one.

Post by **panzermk2** » 10 Apr 2009, 11:41

and that if they can just "Talk" to the bad guys they will love us, sing "Koom-bi-ya" and set the capt. free.

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 10 Apr 2009, 11:44

sing "Koom-bi-ya"

Um, no, that song has religious overtones.

Now, I could see them all holding hands, singing "Mooovin' on up! To the east side!" heheheheh

TEKTITE · Post by **TEKTITE** » 10 Apr 2009, 11:50

Teacher at suicide bomber school to class:

"Now pay attention, I'm only doing this once... :BOOM:

Let's send them an instructor!

Post by **Rapier1772** » 10 Apr 2009, 11:52

Wollychop wrote:Keep in mind one of the first things that happened was the dispatching of an FBI team and negotiator. The view of the administration, I think it's fair to conclude, is that this is a criminal matter and not a military one.

I thought that was odd too, why send the FBI way the hell over there? Isn't this happening in international waters?

romer522 · Post by **romer522** » 10 Apr 2009, 12:01

Federal Bureau of Internationalization

Post by **f3rr37** » 10 Apr 2009, 12:13

From my understanding the FBI wasn't sent over there, the negotiators stayed in the US and the negotiations were done from the US, probably by phone.

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 10 Apr 2009, 12:50

The U.S. government has mobilized, sending another warship, the Halyburton, to the area, and Gen. David Petreaus said the American military will increase its presence near the Horn of Africa within 48 hours. In addition, an FBI hostage negotiator team was mobilized to help deal with the delicate situation.

The Navy destroyer Bainbridge is on site as well as an FBI hostage negotiator.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/sto ... 164&page=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **f3rr37** » 10 Apr 2009, 13:05

I stand corrected I guess :p

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 10 Apr 2009, 13:55

Oh well, he's gotta watch out for his Gs, yo

C141FE · Post by **C141FE** » 10 Apr 2009, 13:56

Indecisiveness kills. If that had been myself trying to escape and the dipshits onsite just sat there I'd be pissed. :furious:

Post by **f3rr37** » 10 Apr 2009, 13:59

I bet his SS detail was like, :skep:

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 10 Apr 2009, 13:59

f3rr37 wrote:I bet his SS detail was like, :skep:

More like:

"Jerry, I know what you're thinking. Just don't. Seriously. Put it down, Jerry."

Post by **f3rr37** » 10 Apr 2009, 14:00

:laugh:

Mister Freeze · Post by **Mister Freeze** » 10 Apr 2009, 15:19

How about "Boom! Bye, ya'll!" A covert hole drilled in the bottom so that their boat started sinking while we watched would be worthwhile... Don't we have any green seamen with itchy trigger fingers that could 'accidentally' shoot them?

fooschnickens · Post by **fooschnickens** » 11 Apr 2009, 07:35

Hay look, even FRANCE knows what to do in this situation:

http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?pnum= ... blsadstrgt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mister Freeze · Post by **Mister Freeze** » 11 Apr 2009, 12:30

Oooh, Obama showed up by the FRENCH!

Llagoud · Post by **Llagoud** » 12 Apr 2009, 07:35

I do so very much like Mark Steyn.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZW ... M0NDUxOGQ=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Our Reprimitivized Future
When all the world’s a “distraction,” maybe you’re not the main event after all.

The Reuters headline put it this way: “Pirates Pose Annoying Distraction For Obama.”

So many distractions, aren’t there? Only a week ago, the North Korean missile test was an “annoying distraction” from Barack Obama’s call for a world without nuclear weapons and his pledge that America would lead the way in disarming. And only a couple of days earlier the president insisted Iraq was a “distraction” — from what, I forget: The cooing press coverage of Michelle’s wardrobe? No doubt when the Iranians nuke Israel, that, too, will be an unwelcome distraction from the administration’s plans for federally subsidized daycare, just as Pearl Harbor was an annoying distraction from the New Deal, and the First World War was an annoying distraction from the Archduke Franz Ferdinand’s dinner plans.

If the incompetent management driving the New York Times from junk status to oblivion wished to decelerate their terminal decline, they might usefully amend their motto to “All the News That’s Fit to Distract.” Tom Blumer of Newsbusters notes that in the last 30 days there have been some 2,500 stories featuring Obama and “distractions,” as opposed to about 800 “distractions” for Bush in his entire second term. The sub-headline of the Reuters story suggests the unprecedented pace at which the mountain of distractions is piling up: “First North Korea, Iran — now Somali pirates.”

Er, okay. So the North Korean test is a “distraction,” the Iranian nuclear program is a “distraction,” and the seizure of a U.S.-flagged vessel in international waters is a “distraction.” Maybe it would be easier just to have the official State Department maps reprinted with the Rest of the World relabeled “Distractions.” Oh, to be sure, you could still have occasional oases of presidential photo-opportunities — Buckingham Palace, that square in Prague — but with the land beyond the edge of the Queen’s gardens ominously marked “Here be distractions . . . ”

As it happens, Somali piracy is not a distraction, but a glimpse of the world the day after tomorrow. In my book America Alone, I quote Robert D. Kaplan referring to the lawless fringes of the map as “Indian Territory.” It’s a droll jest but a misleading one, since the very phrase presumes that the badlands will one day be brought within the bounds of the ordered world. In fact, a lot of today’s badlands were relatively ordered not so long ago, and many of them are getting badder and badder by the day. Half a century back, Somaliland was a couple of sleepy colonies, British and Italian, poor but functioning. Then it became a state, and then a failed state, and now the husk of a nation is a convenient squat from which to make mischief. According to Chatham House in London, Somali pirates made about $30 million in ransom and booty last year. Thirty mil goes a long way in Somalia, making piracy a very attractive proposition.

It’s also a low-risk one. Once upon a time we killed and captured pirates. Today, it’s all more complicated. The attorney general, Eric Holder, has declined to say whether the kidnappers of the American captain will be “brought to justice” by the U.S. “I’m not sure exactly what would happen next,” declares the chief law-enforcement official of the world’s superpower. But some things we can say for certain. Obviously, if the United States Navy hanged some eyepatched peglegged blackguard from the yardarm or made him walk the plank, pious senators would rise to denounce an America that no longer lived up to its highest ideals, and the network talking-heads would argue that Plankgate was recruiting more and more young men to the pirates’ cause, and judges would rule that pirates were entitled to the protections of the U.S. constitution and that their peglegs had to be replaced by high-tech prosthetic limbs at taxpayer expense.

More at the NRO link...

Mister Freeze · Post by **Mister Freeze** » 12 Apr 2009, 07:49

A world without Nukes? But how will we fight of Asteroids and Aliens?

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 12 Apr 2009, 08:10

The whole "law enforcement" question is an interesting one.

Back in '98 when our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed, it was a "law enforcement" question and the FBI was tasked with the hunting. I actually attended the trial for the four terrorists captured (oddly enough, the justice department put us up in the Marriott WTC about a year prior) and it was fastinating.

What was interesting was the fact that the defense attorneys were very high price and bankrolled by certain middle eastern interests. The oddest thing, when compared to arguments being made today, was that the defense was cross examining the Ambassador. He kept trying to get her to admit that the attacks were strikes on legitimate military targets (the embassies) and that the proceedings had no place in a criminal court. Patrick Fitzgerald was the lead prosecutor and did a great job of showing their guilt, but the opposition kept hammering away at the "Act of war" theory as opposed to criminal act.

Fast forward a few years and, out of necessity, the opposite arguments were being made about terrorists. I think we're making a big mistake in dealing with these guys with such soft gloves.

But hey, I ain't in charge.

Llagoud · Post by **Llagoud** » 12 Apr 2009, 08:25

Lawyers and weasle-words.

The pirates see negotiating as weakness and opportunity.
There is only one thing they will understand, or ever have understood.
They need a good piss-pounding.

gotants · Post by **gotants** » 12 Apr 2009, 09:42

Navy Seals rescue the captain. Three Somali pirates are killed and one taken captive.
:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :clap: :clap: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 12 Apr 2009, 09:44

Way to go!

That guy needs a vacation.

gotants · Post by **gotants** » 12 Apr 2009, 09:45

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04 ... topstories" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(CNN) -- The captain of the Maersk Alabama was freed Sunday after being held captive since Wednesday by pirates off the coast of Somalia, a senior U.S. official with knowledge of the situation told CNN.

Capt. Richard Phillips of the Maersk Alabama is being held by pirates on a lifeboat off Somalia.
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The official said Capt. Richard Phillips is uninjured and in good condition, and that three of the four pirates were killed. The fourth pirate is in custody. Phillips was taken aboard the USS Bainbridge, a nearby naval warship.

Earlier Sunday afternoon Maersk Line Limited, owner of the Maersk Alabama, said the U.S. Navy informed the company that it had sighted Phillips in a lifeboat where pirates are holding him.

Phillips was spotted another time earlier in the day, the Navy said.

A man who answered the door at Phillips' home in Underhill, Vermont, told CNN's Stephanie Elam that the family has known the news for hours. He said details would have to come from Virginia, apparently referring to the home base of Maersk Line Limited, based in Norfolk, which owns the ship.

On Saturday, the FBI launched a criminal investigation into the hijacking of the U.S.-flagged cargo ship by Somali pirates, two law enforcement officials told CNN. The probe will be led by the FBI's New York field office, which is responsible for looking into cases involving U.S. citizens in the African region, the officials said.

The Maersk Alabama reached port in Mombasa, Kenya, on Saturday. Crew members aboard the freed cargo ship described how some of their colleagues attempted to "jump" their pirate captors.

A scuffle ensued and one of the sailors stabbed a pirate in the hand in the battle to retake the container ship, one of the sailors told CNN.

Snippets of information are starting to emerge about how the Alabama's crew managed to retake the ship after it was hijacked by pirates Wednesday about 350 miles off the coast of Somalia in the Indian Ocean.

Crew members smiled broadly as they stood on the ship's deck under the watchful eyes of security teams. Although the crew was kept away from the media, CNN's Stan Grant got close enough to ask crew members what happened after the pirates climbed aboard the ship.

One crew member said he recalled being awakened around 7 a.m. as the hijacking began. View a timeline of the attack and its aftermath »

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"I was scared," Grant quoted the man as saying.

Some of the crew managed to hide in a secure part of the Alabama as the pirates stormed the ship, the sailor said.

As the sailors described their clash with the pirates, a crew member pointed to one shipmate and said, "This guy is a hero. He and the chief engineer, they took down the pirate. ... He led him down there to the engine room and then they jumped him."

The shipmate added that he stabbed the pirate's hand and tied him up.

"Capt. Phillips is a hero," another crew member shouted from the deck of the freed ship.

Since Phillips was captured Wednesday, the destroyer USS Bainbridge has been in the area of the lifeboat, trying to free him.

An attempt by Phillips to escape from the 28-foot covered lifeboat was thwarted by a pirate, who dove into the Indian Ocean after him. Phillips' captors appear to have tied him up afterward, Pentagon officials said.

The Alabama resumed its course on Thursday for Mombasa, its original destination, carrying food aid and an armed 18-person security detail.

Maersk president and CEO John Reinhart told reporters Saturday that the crew will stay on board in Mombasa while the FBI conducts an investigation.

johngfj60 · Post by **johngfj60** » 12 Apr 2009, 10:55

Great Job Seals!!

Post by **Rapier1772** » 12 Apr 2009, 11:30

I like this part from the reasons the negotiations failed (from http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

Two other Somalis, one involved in the negotiations and another in contact with the pirates, also said the talks collapsed because of the U.S. insistence that the pirates be arrested and brought to justice.

I guess they thought dead would be better? I'd agree if that was the case :clap:

How do you guys know it was SEALs? While it most likely was the SEALs, I didn't see any confirmation anywhere

toyslr · Post by **toyslr** » 12 Apr 2009, 12:32

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30178013/?GT1=43001" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :patriot: :guns:

toyslr · Post by **toyslr** » 12 Apr 2009, 12:36

This story reports Navy SEALS

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30178013/?GT1=43001" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But then it is a news story

Post by **Rapier1772** » 12 Apr 2009, 13:05

Thanks toyslr, now it looks like everyone is saying SEALs :laugh:

Anyone else notice that now BO is willing to comment? Didn't have time to comment when a word from POTUS could mean something to family though...

gotants · Post by **gotants** » 12 Apr 2009, 14:50

Alright newbie, please note this has already been posted on another thread...
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3342&start=60" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

toyslr · Post by **toyslr** » 12 Apr 2009, 15:32

Another news reports says "snipers" from a ship took them out! Who's to say WHO took the shot but I got the beer for'm :patriot: :guns: As for as OBAMA not opening his mouth?? Isn't that a good thing :thumb:

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 12 Apr 2009, 15:33

toyslr wrote:As for as OBAMA not opening his mouth?? Isn't that a good thing :thumb:

Depends on what his hands are doing.

toyslr · Post by **toyslr** » 12 Apr 2009, 15:34

xcuse me

Llagoud · Post by **Llagoud** » 12 Apr 2009, 16:18

Redstate reports: "Captive Captain Saves President Obama"

http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2009/0 ... ent-obama/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **Rapier1772** » 12 Apr 2009, 16:55

I wasn't sure how exactly the SEALs did the rescue but I just saw this

Navy snipers on the fantail of a destroyer cut down three Somali pirates in a lifeboat and rescued an American sea captain in a surprise nighttime assault in choppy seas Easter Sunday

Damn! That is shooting a moving target from a moving target. I was on a carrier & it barely moved but I have seen destroyers bob around quite a bit. A lifeboat would be worse, especially in choppy seas. I know the destroyer was as stable as they could make it but still - impressive

Post by **f3rr37** » 12 Apr 2009, 19:43

Well done soldiers. :patriot:

eagleshotz · Post by **eagleshotz** » 12 Apr 2009, 19:50

:patriot:

Post by **f3rr37** » 12 Apr 2009, 19:54

Please be nice to the newbies

stg2ahn · Post by **stg2ahn** » 12 Apr 2009, 20:08

heard they " sniped 25 meters away"

Not saying it wasn't a difficult shot, but the MSM act like a 25 meter shot was a 2500 meter shot.

Good job on the part of the seals.

I wonder what "tools" they used.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 12 Apr 2009, 20:29

Oops, guess I missed that part

Still not an "easy" shot but not what I would consider "sniper" distance

Llagoud · Post by **Llagoud** » 13 Apr 2009, 04:06

Many news sources struggle to give Obamasiah credit.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/obama-gives ... -a45t.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Obama gives order for snipers to shoot pirates to free captain

The operation, personally approved by US President Barack Obama, quashed fears the saga could drag on for months and marked a victory for the United States, which for days seemed powerless to resolve the crisis despite massing helicopter-equipped warships at the scene.

But....follow the link to:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/obama-pledg ... -a4c0.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Obama pledges 'resolve' against piracy off Somalia

Obama was regularly updated on the Maersk Alabama cargo ship's situation after it was attacked on Wednesday, and on Friday and Saturday gave US forces authority "to engage in potential emergency actions," an administration official said on condition of anonymity.

"We remain resolved to halt the rise of piracy in this region," said Obama in his first public statement on the situation.

And the Scotsman...

http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Shi ... 5164766.jp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ship's captain freed after three pirates are killed in gunfight

Date: 13 April 2009
By ELIZABETH A KENNEDY IN MOMBASA
AN AMERICAN ship captain was freed unharmed last night as three of the pirates who held him for days in a lifeboat off the Somali coast were killed during a navy Seals operation personally ordered by US president Barack Obama.

:skep: :skep: :skep: :skep: :skep: :skep:

Post by **jmz5** » 13 Apr 2009, 04:17

At least those pirates got what was coming to them.

stg2ahn · Post by **stg2ahn** » 13 Apr 2009, 04:26

the shots where only 25 meters away, but considering how the "skinnies" are more anoxeric than ann coulter, it was an extremely hard shot indeed.

Llagoud · Post by **Llagoud** » 13 Apr 2009, 04:29

stg2ahn wrote:the shots where only 25 meters away, but considering how the "skinnies" are more anoxeric than ann coulter, it was an extremely hard shot indeed.

Considering the consequences of a miss, on choppy waters with ship and boat moving seperately..... hell yes.

Llagoud · Post by **Llagoud** » 13 Apr 2009, 04:57

And WaPo adds.....

An Early Military Victory for Obama

"The president's focus was on saving and protecting the life of the captain," one adviser said. Friday evening, after a National Security Council telephone update, Obama granted U.S. forces what aides called "the authority to use appropriate force to save the life of the captain." On Saturday at 9:20 a.m., Obama went further, giving authority to an "additional set of U.S. forces to engage in potential emergency actions."

A top military official, Vice Adm. William E. Gortney, commander of the Fifth Fleet, explained that Obama issued a standing order that the military was to act if the captain's life was in immediate danger.

"Our authorities came directly from the president," he said. "And the number one authority for incidents if we were going to respond was if the captain's life was in immediate danger. And that is the situation in which our sailors acted."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... id=topnews" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:coughcoughbullshitcough: They already had that authority.

TEKTITE · Post by **TEKTITE** » 13 Apr 2009, 07:01

Another good shot, regardless. :patriot:

Go Navy! :guns:

toyslr · Post by **toyslr** » 13 Apr 2009, 10:07

Wouldn't want to keep ost going I've already had negative comments about but 25 yards from the deck of a moving ship to a rocking life boat at night? And the fact that they were only partially exposed. Still a hell of a shot (x's 3)

Post by **f3rr37** » 13 Apr 2009, 10:16

Merged the two topics.

t1210 · Post by **t1210** » 13 Apr 2009, 21:48

Why don't we declare pirates as game animals and offer safari cruises. No bag limit. :ponder:

Post by **Rapier1772** » 14 Apr 2009, 06:23

They vowed revenge, and they are following through with it. 4 more ships seized, open season is looking better & better. Wish BO would let our navy engage at will - seek & destroy
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090414/ap_on_re_af/piracy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fudd · Post by **Fudd** » 14 Apr 2009, 06:46

Personally, as far as I'm concerned, CO BAINBRIDGE could have gone old school and did a slow steam off the coast of skinny-land with pirate #4 hanging from the port yardarm, then cut him loose to feed the sharks.

Just sending a small message.

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 14 Apr 2009, 17:38

News breaking now that another US vessel has been attacked by Pirates, but evaded.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 14 Apr 2009, 18:45

Liberty Maritime said the pirates fired rocket-propelled grenades and automatic weapons at the vessel, which was carrying U.S. food aid for African nations and was en route to Mombasa, Kenya, from Houston, it said.

Guess they want their people to starve? Please give the navy the green light to send them all to Davy Jones' locker

Wollychop · Post by **Wollychop** » 15 Apr 2009, 06:35

Why are we talking about all this nonlethal stuff??

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,515986,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

These guys are attacking with RPGs, crew-served and AKs... I've got a cheaper idea -- 5 inch deck guns and rifles for the crews.

Post by **f3rr37** » 15 Apr 2009, 07:14

Wollychop wrote:Why are we talking about all this nonlethal stuff??

These guys are attacking with RPGs, crew-served and AKs... I've got a cheaper idea -- 5 inch deck guns and rifles for the crews.

I agree, when I saw that "gun" I immediately thought of the game Halo.

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