Reloading equipment for 5.7x28mm

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Post by Bongos » 18 Jan 2011, 16:06

Just bought two PS90 and a 5.7 in route, question, is the Lee Pacesetter dies: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?p ... roductDesc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
the same one in the equipment list.. granted it's 2011 compared to the 2008 list. Just want to make sure before I place the order.

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Post by GSPKurt » 16 Jun 2011, 11:48

f3rr37 wrote:
Grantness wrote:The shells fit in the shellholder for the case length gage/trimmer....at least I have had no problems with mine.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.e ... mid=266946" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; That? I had to use a dremel to open up the mouth for the case to slip in.
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Post by rdmallory » 13 Aug 2011, 18:09

Call LEE, I think they still make them there just not listed.

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Post by s64woody » 19 Nov 2011, 18:52

If my conversation with the Lee product support people is correct the 5.7 dies available are not pacesetter dies, as the Factory Crimp Die is not included. The available die set is a two die set, the same size and bullet seating die as the pacesetter set, just no FCD. There is some issue with making the shorter length crimp die using the available equipment?

The product support person was helpful. His claim was that the collet part of the FCD is made of a steel that is not easily welded, so making a FCD using a 218 BEE FCD appears dependent on getting a 218 BEE die with shorter "cuts" in it. This was mentioned in another discussion here, by EA, I think. Unless some kind person figures out a process to weld up a little bit of the cuts.....

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Post by Jrobertson1989 » 19 Dec 2011, 17:49

I am new to reloading and would like to know the specific equipment I need to start reloading my 5.7x28mm brass. If anyone on here has had success with a specific type of press, die, ext. please let me know what you used.

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Post by s64woody » 27 Dec 2011, 21:46

The night's exercise was to run a small batch of test loads, which means that I had to sort out all of my reloading equipment for suitability with the 5.7. ALL of the Lee equipment I have bought for this cartridge appear to be top shelf. I mentioned in a new thread that the shell holder was modified to gain clearance on cratered primers, but otherwise everything else functioned flawlessly.

NONE of my regular powder measures seemed happy with dropping small charges of AA#7, which is the powder I am starting with. Ended up using an old Bonanza rotary measure that I used in my bullseye shooting days, then trickled up to the various loads I wanted. What is the magic bullet today for powder measures?

Others have made comments about the Lee AutoPrime shell holder not fitting. Mine was perfect, as received from Lee, but I note that the AutoPrime I have is about 30 years old.

My initial bullet to experiment with is the Sierra 40 gr. Hornet bullet, #1200. That flat based little darling is difficult to start straight, and one or two ended up causing the case neck to not be concentric with the bore axis, by a little bit. I will be interested to see if that makes much difference.

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Post by curlysir » 28 Dec 2011, 09:54

s64woody wrote:If my conversation with the Lee product support people is correct the 5.7 dies available are not pacesetter dies, as the Factory Crimp Die is not included. The available die set is a two die set, the same size and bullet seating die as the pacesetter set, just no FCD. There is some issue with making the shorter length crimp die using the available equipment?

The product support person was helpful. His claim was that the collet part of the FCD is made of a steel that is not easily welded, so making a FCD using a 218 BEE FCD appears dependent on getting a 218 BEE die with shorter "cuts" in it. This was mentioned in another discussion here, by EA, I think. Unless some kind person figures out a process to weld up a little bit of the cuts.....
I really do not understand why Lee does not make a Factory Crimp Die. Several here (including me) have successfully modified the 218 Bee and 223 Rem. die to crimp the 5.7. See this thread viewtopic.php?f=19&t=170" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. You do have to get a die with the shorter cuts but it is a rather simple process with the right die. I also wish lee would make a shell plate for their progressive press.

I now have my Lee Turret Press set up to load the 5.7 and have reloaded about 150 rounds so far. Have shot about 40 rounds with out any problems.

My next project is to get the powder measurement automated as this is the most time consuming part right now. I am hand measuring each charge at the moment.

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Post by s64woody » 30 Dec 2011, 19:53

Curlysir When I spoke with Lee they said that they COULD NOT make a 5.7 FCD with the equipment they had. I note that it was simply childs play to shorten the 218 BEE FCD to use with the 5.7. I believe they do not WANT to go to the trouble for a low demand item.

Possibly I was just lucky that my die had short "slots" cut into it. I only removed about .235 inches in length to get the correct length. There was a whole lot of meat left. Maybe I am too hard on Lee.

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Post by GONRA » 31 Dec 2011, 13:52

s64woody sez: "My initial bullet to experiment with is the Sierra 40 gr. Hornet bullet, #1200. That flat based little darling is difficult to start straight, ..."

GONRA and many other use the Hornady .224 seat die that solves these problems.
Can't remember exact Hornady nomenclature, but it verks GREAT with 5.7x28FN!

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Post by s64woody » 31 Dec 2011, 16:32

Woody sez thanks for the tip. Never tried to use that die set, will have to find one. The LEE bullet seating die is functional, but challenged in this regards.

I have positively settled the question about using the Dillion powder measure to throw charges using fine ball power. Does not work with fine ball powder, it jams up and will not throw consistent charges. At least the two Dillon powder measures I have will not work. They are the original units from my RL 450

Working up loads with the single stage press is fine. I cannot imagine using it to produce ammo, once the development work is done. So I need to find an option that will work with the Dillon....

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Post by GONRA » 01 Jan 2012, 13:41

GONRA found the plastic Hornady die containers.
Sliding sleeve orients bullet axially whilst seating.
These should verk with any reasonable cartidge that uses
.224 or .308 inch diameter bullets. Labels:

044102 DIE BS #2 (.224) 22 CAL W/146

044112 DIE BS #12 (.308) 30 CAL W/147

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Post by WA-Tom » 09 Jan 2012, 00:46

Someone has to find a better way to size these brass. I crunch about 1 in 5 of them with the sizing die. The neck collapses. I am using redding dies on a custom Dillon 650 setup I built. Anyone have any suggestions on what's causing the brass to collapse?

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Post by s64woody » 09 Jan 2012, 07:08

WA-TOM: using Lee dies on a single stage press until I get the Dillon going. Have not lost a single case the way you describe.

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Post by bullzeye » 19 Jan 2012, 22:40

try using lube inside of the necks. my preference is hornady case lube in the aerosol can.

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Post by khmer6 » 29 Jan 2012, 16:46

Haven't had any problems using Lee's dies and single stage press.

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Post by Burt » 25 Feb 2012, 10:38

I am using RCBS dies and I have collapsed the neck on everyone of the shells that I have tried to put through. The die sizes so tight that I have to work the shell in part way then out until it get to the sizing otherwise the case gets stuck. I have had to pull several cases with the tap and pull method. Once I get to the neck sizing it just collapses to the shoulder. :wall:

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Post by panzermk2 » 25 Feb 2012, 10:52

Burt wrote:I am using RCBS dies and I have collapsed the neck on everyone of the shells that I have tried to put through. The die sizes so tight that I have to work the shell in part way then out until it get to the sizing otherwise the case gets stuck. I have had to pull several cases with the tap and pull method. Once I get to the neck sizing it just collapses to the shoulder. :wall:
I use RCBS dies. They are my first choice for all the large caliber custom rifle ammo I make. RCBS though is my last choice for the 5.7x28. I would suggest getting a set of cheap azz LEE when you get a chance.

What lube are you using?

You may want to polish the inside pf the die also.
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Post by Hinglby » 07 Mar 2012, 14:13

Hello everyone. I am new to this site but have been viewing for a while and decided to share some findings on factory loads.

I have about 5000 rounds total of the SS197SR, but I purchased a new box of the SS197SR from Midway USA just to do some checking. I pulled all the bullets and weighed them. All were right at 40g +-.05g. Every case measured exactly the same within +-.0005". Now comes the odd part. I measured the powder charge from every one of the 50 rounds and it was erratic. I got anywhere from 3.85 grains to 5.82 grains.

A little back ground: I used a Collete Bullet Puller, a brown and sharp digital micrometer, a brown and sharp ID digital micrometer, a Mitutoyo OD 3 jaw micrometer and a professional lad scale calibrated and accurate to .0015 grain. I verified the scale after every 5th measurement.

So the reason for my experiment is because I've read so much about how the 5.7x28mm is hard to reload, it picky and you have to be accurate to +-.1 grain or it could blow up in your hand. Based on what I found, the OEM rounds are not very precise on their use of whatever powder they are using.

I have a the RCBS dies, 318bee converted crimp die, 40g bullets and 35g bullets, Accurate #5, #7 and #9 powder along with four manuals. I've loaded up 10 rounds of 5 different formulas staying 10% below the minimum powder charge. I'm still not sure if I want to squeeze the trigger.

Any thoughts?

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Post by Thedirtyheat » 07 Mar 2012, 17:18

Was the data you were using for crimped or uncrimped rounds? Crimping is a huge game changer on 5.7 and I have had no issues with uncrimped rounds I simply don't find that extra added possible inconsistency worth it at all.

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Post by Hinglby » 08 Mar 2012, 07:49

Hello Thedirtyheat, I actually haven fired any of my loads. I am very skeptical about the factory load accuracy and all the load data that has been published. But to answer part of your question, I have both crimped and un-crimped. I did some set back test on blank rounds and found that the un-crimped rounds get pushed in between .005 and.025", my crimped rounds had zero set back.

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Post by Thedirtyheat » 08 Mar 2012, 10:02

Yes but the crimped rounds are going to have pressure differences, load data for uncrimped even out of a load manual or your own will not work for crimped and crimped is going to give you higher pressures, and there is a good chance (I don't know what projectile you're using) but that set back or atleast part of it may be the tip slightly deforming that was my findings on v max, once again I'm no all knowing guru im just trying to help you avoid a bad error. Also read a recent post on the crimping causing the projectile to deform. I'm not saying you can't crimp, just warning you there are variants and differences to look out for.

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Post by rolcle » 18 Mar 2012, 18:48

Impressive list and thank you for the information.

Would you be able to ballpark the cost of reloading 40 grain ballistic tips?

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Post by Rapier1772 » 18 Mar 2012, 19:16

rolcle wrote:Would you be able to ballpark the cost of reloading 40 grain ballistic tips?
Approx $.22 per round. If you buy in bulk it would help. Or get to EA's pull downs before any of the rest of us do :laugh:
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Post by Hinglby » 19 Mar 2012, 04:38

Rapier1772 has the same number I came up with. I decided to start reloading this round because it comes out to about 1/2 the price of factory rounds.

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Post by campgroundman » 23 Mar 2012, 04:45

i have a dillon 650 , but everone know it cannot be used due to the shellplate problem. as a result i purchased a 550B and whatever else i needed to load the 5.7 just wanted to share this information about the 550B: it does not have the powder check system that the 650 does, but you can add one. i have found it not necessary(with my brass so far) to size the neck of the cases. as a result i removed this die, drilled the necessary hole in the 550B tool head(located in the same place as the 650) and then installed the 650 powder check in the 550B toolhead. it works perfectly, and i feel much better now knowing if i have too much powder or not enough. just be sure to check that the alarm is working before you begin loading by pushing the switch in manually. john

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Post by zealous_LEXX » 25 Aug 2012, 18:38

What are good electric and regular scales? Also does anyone use a trickler? I was also wondering what tools are used to handle powder? Yea yea I'm a noob. If anyone lives in MN I'd love to watch or shadow someone reloading.

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Post by zealous_LEXX » 26 Aug 2012, 02:12

What do you use to measure the OAL? Preferred brand? Website I could purchase?

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Post by Rapier1772 » 26 Aug 2012, 09:28

From viewtopic.php?f=19&t=12318" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To measure lengths
panzermk2 wrote:This is the one you should buy.
http://www.amazon.com/Starrett-120A-6-C ... 857&sr=8-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Starrett 120A-6 White Dial Calipers, Hardened Stainless Steel, 0-6" Range, .001" Graduations

During your search of Starrett calipers you will see ones like this one priced at half. Those are made over seas and aren't as good as the USA made one I list above.
For the scale (from the same thread)
panzermk2 wrote:The Dillon's 'Eliminator' Scale and only the Dillon's 'Eliminator' Scale. Again I have all the other, RCBS, SinClair, LEE and more. Non are as reliable, accurate and easy to use. I have a 20 year old Eliminator and it works and measure identically to the NIB Eliminator (Shop back up) that I bought a month ago.

Your mileage may vary this is my opinion.
As for the trickler, I just use a baby spoon for dropping powder into the dish anyway, I don't bother with a trickler anymore.

If you are that new to reloading, you might want to start with another cartridge. This round is very sensitive to pressures. You can (& some do) start with this round, but be careful!
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Post by billdan7588 » 29 Aug 2012, 15:07

I'm brand new to this forum, I've been reloading since the early 70's, I've used RCBS Rock Chucker, PonsnessWarren presses, reloaded for 9mm, .38 spec., .357 mag., .41 mag., .45auto, .22-250, .30-06, and .375 h&h mag, my son has peaked my interest in owning an HN 5.7 x 28mm, I've seen mention of the Lee turret press for use in reloading for this caliber but not for the RCBS turrett press, can someone out there be so kind as to tell me what the reasons for not using the RCBS turret press for this caliber are! I know longer own neither of the presses I mentioned, so I'll be starting fresh.
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Post by reeldoc » 02 Oct 2012, 16:45

Received this from Wilson today concerning inquiry about an 5.7 shell holder for Wilson trimmers.....

Hello,

That would be a special holder for us, all we need is three cases in the condition in which you intend to trim them
along with a check or money order for $30.50 for U.S. Customers that will cover the cost of the holder and shipping back to you.
For international customers please include $38.50 along with your cases. Turn around is just a few days.

Please send to the address below.

Thank you,

Wilson Support
L.E. Wilson Inc.
PO Box 324
404 Pionner Ave
Cashmere, WA 98815
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Post by ejmoosa » 04 Oct 2012, 18:01

reeldoc,

Thanks for the legwork on the Wilson Shell Holder.

I certainly appreciate it.

EJ

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Re: Reloading equipment for 5.7x28mm

Post by dalefranzen » 29 Jan 2013, 07:44

Good morning all,

New to this site but not to reloading. I did how ever just start reloading the 5.7x28. I have done a lot of research before I started to reload with all concern of weapons blowing up in peoples hands.
This is a straight forward caliber to load provided you pay attention to detail. I see that the dies are getting harder to get. One place that I have found is Titan Reloading but alas as of this morning they are out of these dies. I ordered mine 2 weeks ago. My next item that I wanted but cant yet is a case go/no go gauge. There is only one place so far that makes one and that is Elite Ammuniton and of course they are back ordered. I have contacted LE Wilson in hopes that they will start to make these gauges. Time will tell.
I use the Lee die set and they work great. What I used as a gauge to set the shoulder back was the barrel in a V block, a new factory load and a dial indicator. I pushed the shoulder back to -.002 of what a factory load measured. This worked well for me.
Dies: Lee 2 piece die set with case holder
Trimming: Lee Trim set
Case length: I went with a trim to length of 1.130.
Bullets: Sierra 40gr SP Hornets
Powder: Accurate #7 (Started at 7.0gr and I like this load at 7.3gr)
Primmers CCI Small Rifle
COL: 1.475
Scale: RCBS Powder Master
Press: RCBS Rock Chucker

Went to the range this last week-end to test my first loads and they shot beautifully. I dont have a chrono but plan on getting one just to see what the true velocity of these rounds are. I also shot some factory 197's just to see or maybe hear any difference. None that I could tell. (All though my back side was still puckered from squeezing the trigger for the first time).

I think the key to this round is staying well within the loading info that is out there. I used the Accurate data from their website. You need to pay attention to the length of the case as if they get a bit long they can and will start to jam the weapon or FTF correctly. Every place I have been on the forums and Accurate is DONT hotrod this caliber as they are very sensitive.

I have yet to reload the cases more than once at this point as I have a few hundred cases. The best way I have found to clean the cases (DONT Tumble) is 1 part Simple Green to 2 parts water. Clean and let air dry. If you tmble these caes you run the risk of polishing the poly coating off. This coating is needed for feeding and the blow back process.

I have found these to be a great way to save half the money of factory loads.

Have fun, be safe.

Dale

(Just my 2 cents)

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Re: Reloading equipment for 5.7x28mm

Post by NeverEnoughGuns » 24 Feb 2013, 13:39

Okay guys, looking for some help here. I'm new to the forum and was going to start reloading the 5.7. I have a Dillon 550B press and am aware that EA sells the shell plate for the 550B, but can someone weigh in on the best type of dies that I should purchase to use with the Dillon 550B?

Thanks.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 24 Feb 2013, 13:57

I recommend Lee dies.
Check out the forum wiki for a full list of reloading equipment.
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Post by huddleston101 » 24 Feb 2013, 16:04

Rapier1772 wrote:I recommend Lee dies.
Check out the forum wiki for a full list of reloading equipment.
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:thumb: i to recommend Lee dies.

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Post by Vortec MAX » 24 Feb 2013, 19:15

I looked over the reloading wiki and the first post in this string. I did not see any mention of some of the bullets that I have stockpiled for the zombie apocalypse. Are the following suitable for reloading in the 5.7x28 for a Five-seven pistol?:

30 gr Berger match
35 gr Hornady V-Max (wiki briefly mentioned these)
30 gr Barnes Varmint Grenades

Just asking because if I am holding on to some that are not well suited to this application, I should trade for some that are.

Thanks in advance.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 24 Feb 2013, 21:19

I've loaded 30gr grenades before, maybe it was just me but they didn't work so well & frequently came out slightly crooked which would throw off any accuracy. Can't really say anything about the other 2
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Post by SandmanV12 » 02 Apr 2013, 15:51

Any opinions on where to pick up the Lee Pacesetter die set?

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Post by Red Dog » 02 Apr 2013, 17:15

I waited out a five week backorder at Midway USA for my Lee dies. They were delivered in early March; a local gun shop got me a set of RCBS dies in about the same time through his rep.

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Post by SandmanV12 » 02 Apr 2013, 18:27

Red Dog wrote:I waited out a five week backorder at Midway USA for my Lee dies. They were delivered in early March; a local gun shop got me a set of RCBS dies in about the same time through his rep.
I looked today on Midway and it didn't even list them.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 02 Apr 2013, 18:33

I don't think they make the Pacesetter for the 5.7, it's not on their list anyway. Think you're stuck with regular dies like the rest of us :p
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Post by 500SWfan » 02 Apr 2013, 19:06

SandmanV12 wrote:
Red Dog wrote:I waited out a five week backorder at Midway USA for my Lee dies. They were delivered in early March; a local gun shop got me a set of RCBS dies in about the same time through his rep.
I looked today on Midway and it didn't even list them.
MidwayUSA lists them (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/261573 ... 57x28mm-fn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). They're just categorized as rifle dies, rather than handgun dies. That's probably because they're listed as Pacesetter dies. :D

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Post by fd57 » 02 Apr 2013, 19:06

Lee does offer their Pacesetter dies for the 5.7x28 cartridge. Just a heads up. They're a mutha to snag though. Scored a couple a few months back.

Here's what the package looks like (minus the spare decapping pin in bottom right of snap):

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Post by Rapier1772 » 02 Apr 2013, 20:23

How does a pacesetter different from regular dies? Other than the powder dipper & shell holder included.
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Post by 500SWfan » 02 Apr 2013, 20:54

Rapier1772 wrote:How does a pacesetter different from regular dies? Other than the powder dipper & shell holder included.
I think that is the difference...the extras. Most of their Pacesetter rifle die sets also come with a third factory crimp die. But for the rarer calibers like the 5.7 or 204 Ruger where they haven't developed a factory crimp die (yet?), they just sell it as a two die set with the extras, as opposed to their RGB (really great buy) sets, which only come with the two dies.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 02 Apr 2013, 21:15

That's what I thought. So unless they've fixed their shell holder for the 5.7x28, it's not worth the hassle.
Buy the regular dies and an RCBS shell holder.
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Post by 500SWfan » 02 Apr 2013, 21:25

Actually, they only offer it as the Pacesetter set, and even then it's always classified as a "Very Limited Production" set. They don't even list it as one of the available calibers on their web site (http://leeprecision.com/reloading-dies/ ... 2-die-set/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). :facepalm:

Edit: My bad. It is shown far below (http://leeprecision.com/v-ltd-2-die-5.7x28.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;), it's just not shown in the preliminary list. I notice it says powder dipper and load data are not included, but that's not true. The set I just got from Ammodepot included the dipper, and load data identical to that in the latest Lee reloading manual (2nd edition Rvsd).

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Post by Red Dog » 03 Apr 2013, 14:07

I found the RCBS #45 shell holder at Precision Reloading. Only had to wait three weeks for it. I don't plan to use the Lee shell holder that came with the dies after reading all the negative posts here.

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Post by fd57 » 03 Apr 2013, 15:47

No issue with the shell holder included in the Pacesetter die set here.

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Post by Hobknob » 04 Apr 2013, 08:03

Something I hadn't seen listed anywhere is a powder checker or lockout die.

I've used the RCBS Powder Check die as well as a RCBS lockout die (modified) and they both work quite well.
If you're using a single stage it's really not necessary, but on a progressive it is a nice monitoring method.

The lockout is nice in that it locks the press out if you get a significantly higher or lower volume of powder in the case, while the check die just shows you if the current powder level is close to what you set the die at.
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Elite Ammunition has reloading parts in stock

Post by Jim300 » 09 Apr 2013, 17:31

I purchased the case gauge and dillon 550 shell plate a few weeks ago but could not get the RCBS trim plate. The trim plate is now in stock along with some bullets (not loaded ammo). Glad to see a few things back in stock.

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Post by Beecher Tool » 03 May 2013, 10:00

As mentioned in another post, I picked up a Five Seven this week and am starting the process of setting up to be able to reload. My basic reloading set up is:

Redding Ultramag Single Stage Press - I ordered a couple of Redding #35 shellholders which I understand will work with 5.7x28

Hornady LNL Progressive Ammo Plant - I ordered a custom shellplate from Hornady for the LNL press...and I am well aware of and understand that decapping/primer seating must be done in the single stage press

Most of my die set are the three piece Redding Titanium Carbide Competition sets. Redding doesn't make a set like that for 5.7x28 so I ordered a Redding three piece Deluxe Die Set [Redding Part# 84477, brownells.com Part# 749-007-802WS].

I use an LE Wilson Stainless Trimmer for case length trimming....they don't make collets for 5.7x28 as a standard size, but will make custom collets if three cases are provided. My sense is that the way to submit cases is to wait until I have the dies in hand, and size the cases using the actual dies in my set up rather than send spent cases so the gauge track the sized cases I would intend to use.

Has anyone gone down this path and would care to share experiences? Thanks in advance.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 03 May 2013, 10:42

I wouldn't by the Redding die set. I wouldn't buy the RCBS, unless I can't buy the Lee dies.
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Post by Beecher Tool » 03 May 2013, 10:47

Thanks for the thoughts....at present I have owned and use Redding dies in 5.56x45, 7.62x51, .338LM, 9MM, .40S&W, and .45ACP....and LE Wilson press type dies in the three rifle calibers. I have had nothing but less than experiences with Lee and RCBS dies in 30 years of reloading obviously with various differences in intensity. So my decision as to dies is done, the question really focuses on case trimming...thanks for the input.

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Post by SandmanV12 » 08 May 2013, 22:14

Thanks to one of the members on here I now have a pacesetter die set, Thank you.

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Post by 500SWfan » 19 Jun 2013, 11:29

For those who still need a set, MidwayUSA just got the Lee dies in stock.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/261573 ... 57x28mm-fn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by xxstincexx » 06 Jul 2013, 04:58

I use the hornady can lock trimmer. Once its set it stays set. Just ordered the power adapter for it.

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Post by Oceansblue » 09 Sep 2013, 16:23

The list at the top of this post is pretty comprehensive, and has helped me narrow my shopping list, but I'm not quite set up just yet. I'm having some difficulty figuring out which pieces of the list are interchangeable, and which are required. I already have the following items:

Dillon 550B w/ the shell holder from elite ammunition
Lyman 3 piece dies
RCBS trimmer w/ elite ammunition's shell holder

The question I have specifically, is whether or not I need a primer/de-primer in addition to this set of dies, or does one of the lyman dies do this? (Lyman's website doesn't specify)
If the lyman dies don't deprime/prime, is there something I can use that fits the Dillon? (it seems silly to buy a standalone primer/deprimer instead of using the Dillon's 4th station)
If I have to buy the priming stuff seperately that's fine, I just want to avoid buying more equipment if I can use the Dillon's 4th station.

I hope this hasn't already been asked, but if anyone is using a similar setup and can help me out, I'd appreciate it.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 09 Sep 2013, 19:42

Oceansblue
One of the dies included will be the decapping die which punches out the old primer and resizes the case. There SHOULD have been instructions included with the die set. If not, contact Lyman & ask them to send you some.

You seem new to reloading (sorry if I'm wrong) and so a word of warning:
The 5.7x28mm round is VERY sensitive to overpressure, even a .1gr overcharge can cause catastrophic failure.
While it is possible to learn how to reload on this round, we recommend you get familiar with reloading on something more forgiving.

And don't trust your powder drop until it has proven it can maintain a constant setting with the powder you are using. True Blue meters well in the 550, flake powders such as Blue Dot do not.
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Post by Oldbindlestiff » 10 Sep 2013, 06:51

Three die sets include a sizing/de-capping die. I would suggest that you add an Elite Ammunition case go/no gauge to your equipment, as well as a bullet-puller. When I first acquired a Dillon reloading machine, I used it as if it were a single stage press. This approach allowed checking each step carefully until the setup was perfect. Make a dummy round with no primer or powder and then use the case gauge to test it. When it is time to go "live", start at the MINIMUM recommended powder weight. Weigh EACH powder charge (Just drop it into the pan for the scale before charging the case.) until you know what the powder measure is dropping. Lyman's Reloading Handbook is a great source for a step-by-step presentation of the reloading process. Please heed Rapier's advice and be careful.
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Post by Oceansblue » 10 Sep 2013, 10:19

Thank you for the information, I assumed as much about the Lyman dies but wanted to be sure. When I purchased my fsn, the seller included the dies, but without the manual that should have accompanied them. I did actually already pick up EA's go/no go guage as well, I assume their stuff is good, since they appear to be the vendor of choice on these forums.

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Post by APOX » 22 Oct 2013, 15:40

Hello.
Gotta hard one for youz guys...
I know virtually nothing about reloading. I reloaded .44 mag in a share shop once for a short time, not just to save money, but to make better than I could buy; but the owner who was supposedly experienced and knowledgeable was an idiot. His instruction and own efforts resulted in cases that looked a little like accordions - his response was that they would straighten out when I fired them. I left.

I have scanned this topic/forum. I want a 5.7 X 28 handgun, and already bought and sold a Masterpiece arms POC because I could not get the ammo. I want the good pistol - The FN Five Seven.
Common problem: Getting ammo. For reasons I cannot go into, time is not something I have to play with for the most part, so I can't go the usual route of starting with other cartridges and learning and working my way up. I need the hardware capability to reload these.
I need recommendations for the best overall setup for reloading this ammo with the following priorities:
#1: As fool-proof as possible (yeah, I know, I've read this topic, and it seems anyone is lucky to be able to do it without two presses, mods, grinding and welding, etc.)
#2: The smallest, most portable rig possible.
#3: Affordable, if possible.
- In this order -

Please don't caution me about this, I have educated myself on the basic situation: difficult and dangerous load to get wrong, etc.
I am not an idiot, extremely mechanically inclined, eye for detail, cautious, and a near perfectionist on things serious as this. But I have to get this done and it will get done, so those really in the know: Please help me get this taken care of.

I would very much appreciate help on this, especially if links and estimated overall cost might be.
-P.S.- Has any outfit yet offered a reliable and complete set/package for reloading this round ?!?
Any recent developments making the ammo more available and cost effective?
Thank you very much in advance.

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Post by APOX » 22 Oct 2013, 18:46

Although I just joined this forum, and just posted here, I have to bring up a possibly uncomfortable subject...
I have read about all the crapola people have to deal with just to get their equipment together to reload the 5.7 x 28, to the extent that It seems to require a near obsession and bottomless wallet to deal with it.

Have you checked out the 22 TCM ??? It is equal or better than the FN 5 7, costs much less, works very reliably (fail to lock slide open after last round is likely a problem with the magazine and not the pistol) and is basically a modified 1911.
The ammo is quite available, costs a lot less, and is much easier to reload. The cases are right between a 9mm and a .223/5.56, and can be reloaded using .223 cases.

Serious question: Why are people even bothering with 5.7 x 28 ? - really...
Just because you have already invested so much in the gun and ammo and reloading dies, etc???
Although the 22 TCM pistols may be made overseas, they were designed here in America by an American.
As I stated, it is equal or better than the 5.7 X 28 in general and in penetration specifically.

I feel as if I have been on some wild goose chase, and am wiping the sweat from my brow that I bothered to check out the 22 TCM in time, before committing to a whole lot of unnecessary expense, aggravation, work, etc. for nothing.
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Post by Yelraek » 22 Oct 2013, 20:20

APOX wrote:Although I just joined this forum, and just posted here, I have to bring up a possibly uncomfortable subject...
I have read about all the crapola people have to deal with just to get their equipment together to reload the 5.7 x 28, to the extent that It seems to require a near obsession and bottomless wallet to deal with it.

Have you checked out the 22 TCM ??? It is equal or better than the FN 5 7, costs much less, works very reliably (fail to lock slide open after last round is likely a problem with the magazine and not the pistol) and is basically a modified 1911.
The ammo is quite available, costs a lot less, and is much easier to reload. The cases are right between a 9mm and a .223/5.56, and can be reloaded using .223 cases.

Serious question: Why are people even bothering with 5.7 x 28 ? - really...
Just because you have already invested so much in the gun and ammo and reloading dies, etc???
Although the 22 TCM pistols may be made overseas, they were designed here in America by an American.
As I stated, it is equal or better than the 5.7 X 28 in general and in penetration specifically.

I feel as if I have been on some wild goose chase, and am wiping the sweat from my brow that I bothered to check out the 22 TCM in time, before committing to a whole lot of unnecessary expense, aggravation, work, etc. for nothing.
WHEW !!!

Good for you... :clap: (can I slow the clap down to make it look more sarcastic?)
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Post by Rapier1772 » 22 Oct 2013, 21:55

Yelraek wrote:Good for you... :clap: (can I slow the clap down to make it look more sarcastic?)
No but you can put the "Good for you..." part in sarcasm font, there's even a button for it. :thumb:

APOX, you are aware we can have more than one gun right? And that some us reload as a hobby, not a necessity? I have no idea where you got this:
APOX wrote:It seems to require a near obsession and bottomless wallet to deal with it
Let's see, when I started reloading the 5.7x28mm I bought dies, shell holder, a new scale, & a 550 shell plate. I had everything else because of the other calibers I reload. The investment was really no more than if I bought any other new caliber which could be reloaded. Notice I said investment, which is what reloading is. Anyone looking for an immediate payback is going to be sorely mistaken.
And I don't see how it is any more of an obsession than my other rifle calibers.

As for the 22 TCM, yeah we know about it. Some people here own it, here's a thread: http://www.fivesevenforum.com/viewtopic ... 26&t=11954" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by APOX » 23 Oct 2013, 12:08

As I said, I have scanned this topic in forum, and I have seen the back-and-forth of people trying to get dies that will work without modification, and posts about having to weld or grind or improvise just to keep the shell from falling through the press, and about having to get special adapters and plates and this, that and the other thing.
There are three main reasons I see for reloading:
#1 To save money
#2 Purely for hobby, (some people like to spend hours pulling that lever, go figure) which I would not agree with.
#3 Making better than you can buy, or experimenting with loads, all pretty much in the effort to put together a better round.

Reloading equipment is not cheap when you take into account all that you end up needing to do it right.

When people have to go to the trouble and extremes I have read about in this forum just to reload this one cartridge, I have to wonder "What's the point ?!?"
When I consider what I have just learned about the 22 TCM, in general, and in consideration of how much easier it must be to reload if one wants, I wonder "What the hell's the point ?!!!" "Why even bother with this dammed 5.7?!!"

The 5.7 X 28 is an extremely problematic cartridge, both because it is usually hard to find and expensive, and especially when reloading it seems to be a problem in itself. Competitively, 22 TCM is nothing less than fantastic in almost every way, and I have not come across any drawbacks that 5.7 would not have. Plus, I hear that the company making the ammo and/pr the gun will reload the ammo for you and charge $12.00 a box. If that is still true, how can someone resist?
- If they are already stuck with a 5.7 and all the reloading buts for it.

As far as owning more than one gun, I am of the rather small and exclusive school of not needing to buy one gun after another , and the reloading equipment, and all the other stuff, until you have major investments and whole rooms dedicated to put it all.
I, personally want just 2-5 firearms of any sort at most. I generally believe in only owning as many forearms as I would want to carry at one time. Instead of collecting, I believe in "trading up" and improving what I have. I know that is not the usual, but to the other extreme, I really don;t see the point in spending large amounts of money, time, etc. on an indefinite number of firearms it just seems to be a waste. Its still a supposedly free Country, and if people want to collect and spend, etc. that's fine, but it does not necessarily make the most sense to deal with a cartridge that is riddled with difficulties, when something equal or (much) better is more than available. If I had gone down the road of this topic, I would have ended up with thousands of dollars invested in ammo, reloading equipment, and firearm(s) that I would be looking to sell and trade up to something that is comparatively a breath of fresh air and a real solution.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 23 Oct 2013, 14:13

It's like that saying, "your mileage may vary" and clearly you have your opinion just as we have ours.
Not everyone has to go through all those problems. I do not consider the FsN any more problematic than my other reloads.

Please note that this thread is about reloading equipment for the 5.7x28, if you wish to continue talking about the 22 TCM, please do so in the thread linked in my previous post. Thanks.
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Post by dfosland » 23 Oct 2013, 16:07

APOX wrote:Hello.
Gotta hard one for youz guys...
I know virtually nothing about reloading. I reloaded .44 mag in a share shop once for a short time, not just to save money, but to make better than I could buy; but the owner who was supposedly experienced and knowledgeable was an idiot. His instruction and own efforts resulted in cases that looked a little like accordions - his response was that they would straighten out when I fired them. I left.

I have scanned this topic/forum. I want a 5.7 X 28 handgun, and already bought and sold a Masterpiece arms POC because I could not get the ammo. I want the good pistol - The FN Five Seven.
Common problem: Getting ammo. For reasons I cannot go into, time is not something I have to play with for the most part, so I can't go the usual route of starting with other cartridges and learning and working my way up. I need the hardware capability to reload these.
I need recommendations for the best overall setup for reloading this ammo with the following priorities:
#1: As fool-proof as possible (yeah, I know, I've read this topic, and it seems anyone is lucky to be able to do it without two presses, mods, grinding and welding, etc.)
#2: The smallest, most portable rig possible.
#3: Affordable, if possible.
- In this order -

Please don't caution me about this, I have educated myself on the basic situation: difficult and dangerous load to get wrong, etc.
I am not an idiot, extremely mechanically inclined, eye for detail, cautious, and a near perfectionist on things serious as this. But I have to get this done and it will get done, so those really in the know: Please help me get this taken care of.

I would very much appreciate help on this, especially if links and estimated overall cost might be.
-P.S.- Has any outfit yet offered a reliable and complete set/package for reloading this round ?!?
Any recent developments making the ammo more available and cost effective?
Thank you very much in advance.

This got to be longer than I would have thought...

To get back onto topic for you, asking opinions about gear and setup is akin to asking if Ford or Chevy is better, going to get a LOT of suggestions. Costs can be attributed to "You get what you paid for", cheaper is now always better. At a minimum, and depending on what you need, Lee makes a hand held reloading system, but I do not know if the 5.7 dies will work in it. After that, a single stage press will be the most compact and simplest, and again, brand is a personal preference (I like green, John Deere, RCBS...). Beyond that, as you may have seen from your counterpart that had wrinkled cases, the things (that are not consumables) you need at "my" minimum will be:

-A Press, single stage for simplicity, takes longer than a progressive, but is also cheaper and comes in kits (I use and RCBS Rockchucker Supreme)
-Dies, Lee, Hornady, RCBS...read the reviews on midwayusa.com (Have RCBS and LEE dies)
-A way to remove the primer crimp, I use a reamer (Hornady small pocket reamer with the Hornady Lock-N-Load Power Case Prep Trio)
-A trim die, but I didn't trim my once fired brass (because I haven't bought one yet)
-A scale for measuring your powder, a powder dispenser if you don't want to hand trickle each load onto the scale (Using an RCBS Uniflow to dump and chargemaster scale to check)
-A priming system, some of which attach directly to the press, I use a handheld (Found my RCBS Universal wouldn't hold the case, bought the -Hand Priming System, RCBS has an attachment that goes onto the Rockchucker for priming)
-With this round, getting the case gauge from Elite Ammunition is absolutely worth it for safety's sake.

As you have likely read in many other threads, there are other things that make reloading life simpler, ultrasonic cleaner for the brass, lube and lube pads, decapping dies, case prep centers...this list can go on forever, and has, and as previously stated, most of this becomes used in our other calibers, a small pocket reamer works for anything with a small primer pocket, the vibratory/ultrasonic/tumbler cleaners work on all types of brass (size dependent), so our overall gear costs get spread around the more calibers we reload.

The basic gear is listed in the very first post of this thread, including brands and some specifics like which primers and powder to use. The information is there for you to determine which one you want and then do the legwork of pricing it, I get some of my stuff from MidwayUSA, other stuff from Gun Broker, and yet some other from Amazon, even some from gunshows or Cabela's or other retailers.

One of the biggest challenges with the 5.7x28 in comparison to others is that the shoulder grows so much when fired that it is such a sticky wicket and a concern for many who just get started or don't do much research on it. Elite Ammunition's case gauge was designed to help overcome this issue, and it is simple to use and works well. One of the guys I was at the range with yesterday keeps calling this "The most dangerous round to reload" as he has known more than a couple people who didn't put in the prep time and ensure that the shoulder was back correctly and had out of battery detonations. For him, the fact that I came here for info and tools and made sure to check it, and that my first couple tests were "successful" (I didn't blow myself up and the pistol went 'boom'), impressed him with all the info here.

Now, I am by no means an expert reloader, and there are a lot of people here who have decades more experience than I do, but with their info at the beginning of this thread, others that have done in load tests, and topics in the other threads, all got me into a great start, and I owe them big time for all that info freely given away.

Lastly, I'm sorry, but I read your first post in this thread as a "do the leg work for me", but all the basics have been done by a lot of these people here, and I recently used as much as I could absorb to start in on this caliber. If what you are needing is more of a proper tutorial on reloading instead of the bad experience you got with the other person you worked with, and as you stated, this is round is not the best place to start, might consider one of your other chosen calibers to get into the swing of things and add this later. All the equipment will be the same except for the dies and some of the consumables. I got introduced to reloading with the 9mm 14 years ago, and 7 years ago I jumped into reloading the 50 BMG and have worked backwards from there, to the 30-06 and 308, to this, and soon enough, back to 9mm and .223. To say that the amount of gear on my reloading bench has grown would be an understatement, but at the same time, I don't "need" all of it, just that some of it makes different stages simpler or easier on the hands.

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Post by Yelraek » 23 Oct 2013, 17:14

I'm sorry if my sarcastic post came off a little brash. It's just you see... I'm very much a cynic at heart. When someone posts a question, especially with such language as “for reasons I cannot go into, time is not something I have to play with”, and then three hours and six minutes later has a 180 degree turn around post which, maybe I’m a poor reader, came off as a bit confrontational. Well… it does raise a few flags in my mind.

There is a well of information here. And feel free to take advantage of it, I know I do. But it’s hard to be well received when you go from looking for information because you “want the good pistol - The FN Five Seven.” And suddenly in less than 24 hours being such an expert on the 22 TCM. Again, makes me wonder what the next flavour of the week is.

I’m sorry, I really don’t mean to insult. But maybe you should be thinking the same way.

As for my two cents as to good cartridges to get into… Reloading IS expensive to start up if you want to really get into it effectively. It CAN be done on the cheap… my father-in-law introduced me on 30-06 using the old Lee hand press he bought years ago for a dozen bucks (more like 30-50 now, and you need to buy a hammer). But if you’re going to stick to the cheap side your safety margin is going to go down and anyone would recommend staying away from the hotter loads and probably to stick to firearms where you’re not worried about chambering; bolt actions and “Wheel” guns.

If you’re thinking about anything for a practical purpose… well… you should probably just stick to the most prevalent cartridges anyways. The military is by far the greatest demand for ammunition around the world and will be the easiest to find globally. NATO has even tried to replace the 9 mil from being their standard… but it’s just hard to change when there’s so much out there. However, there stands as good a chance as any for 5.7 to be that round.

As for the gun itself… there are many good reasons to own one. I always get a little smile when I’m at the 100 yard range right beside a long gun tack driver zeroing in. Yes… he’ll be shooting much further later, I’m not nearly comparing the FsN to a sniper rifle… but it’s funny at the time.

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Post by DoubleJ » 16 Nov 2013, 12:15

Just an FYI from a new reloader here, I've had zero problems reloading the 5.7. One set of dies, came with the shell holder, no swaging needed, my press mounted primer arms works fine, this forum pointed me in the right direction for powder choice and load data, I was able to exceed factory ammo on day one, I've never had anything scary happen, etc. Some people have had trouble I'm sure, but they might have been the people cutting the path for the rest of us.

I also value my face and my hand, so I started loading 45 Colts for my .454 casull to give myself about 45,000 PSI of headroom should I make a mistake

As far as the TCM goes, did you happen to notice that the only bullet you can use in it is the same one Armscor uses in the 22WMR? No real bullets will fit. It's a neat idea, but I think FN has a bit more experience than whoever TCM is in making rounds that matter. I hear they're a great channel for old movies though...

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Post by GONRA » 16 Nov 2013, 14:16

GONRA suggests skip57PS90 use RCBS SMALL BASE 5.7x28FN dies,
STP Oil Treatment case lube, nice BIG press - sizing will be Just Fine.
Be sure to uses Hornady .22 seater with the sliding sleeve for bullet seating.
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Post by skyegod » 19 Aug 2014, 10:45

Lee Now makes a 5.7 Factory Crimp Die - It just got added to their roster ( I believe )

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Post by panzermk2 » 19 Aug 2014, 20:22

I would avoid LEE. They have been making 5.7 dies lately that are out of spec.
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Post by varmitsnightmare » 25 Aug 2014, 13:42

Its been a while, but I came back to check on a good bullet puller for single stage press? I assume a (collet?)type puller, but I want to make sure. My kinetic hammer puller with the shell holder attached works but kills the brass. I guess my lee dies are tight. Well and that I have 35 grainers that need pulled( Max load- not so brave anymore- bumping back down a 10th or 2) Any how saw the list at the beginning and had no puller listed? Whats my best choice that leaves the least amount of marks on the 5.7x28 brass and bullet?

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Post by grimmond » 25 Aug 2014, 14:24

I use the honady cam lock bullet puller in my Lee single stage press. It leaves no marks on the case because you use your standard shell holder. It can leave marks or dent the bullet depending on if you crimped it or not, and whether the bullet is soft.
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Post by varmitsnightmare » 25 Aug 2014, 18:52

My case necks are really tight, it is like they are glued and crimped, and for some reason it makes me nervous beating a live round on the cement floor. I guess I am looking at wasting at least one part of the assembly. Bullet or case and primer? I know by what you said about a small dent ,that the lead free ballistic tip Noslers I am trying to pull will be crushed by the puller ( no shoulder to grab onto either). I might as well try it , can always use it on other calibers. I think Hornady is what the local shop has. Thanks, anything to make life easier( and cheaper) helps.....

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Post by jmz5 » 28 Aug 2014, 13:58

I use my seating die to press the bullets down a bit to break the glue seal before pulling them.
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Post by varmitsnightmare » 29 Aug 2014, 08:01

I know the factory loads are glued but does giving reloads a slight tap downward with the seater die help pulling them also? When I get a puller die ,I will try it both ways and see what happens. I have a few that was loaded in cold weather that is beating up the brass now that its warmer. At least that is what I'm blaming it on and not that I may have misread my homebrew data, I made while in the field testing

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Post by varmitsnightmare » 13 Sep 2014, 20:10

Ok the Hornady cam lock collet puller is worth every penny on light weight bullets. I pulled 50 or so 35 grain leadfree noslers and left hardly any marks. Beats the hell out of my kinetic puller that is rough on the 5.7x28 cases( that now has a bent handle due to tight necks and light bullets). If anyone is on the fence on buying one, get it , works sweet. Should work on 17 cals too, hope I never have to find out ,but I now have the collet if I need it. Works so well , I will be getting 30, 25, and 27 cal collets as well. Again the hornady Cam lock puller is sweet!

Also another plus and a big one that most guys will agree on is,,,, if your bench is inside your house, spare bedroom, basement, den ,whatever, the silent puller is not going to make the wife scream "what in the hell are you doing, go to bed, your keeping the kids awake !" I got that one with the kinetic puller in the garage( under master bedroom, she was not happy)

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Post by Rapier1772 » 14 Sep 2014, 06:42

Same goes if you live in apartment complex. Neighbors wonder what the hell you're building if you do it during the day & if you do it at night, that's just rude & you deserve whatever you get.
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Post by derek1387 » 15 Sep 2014, 07:21

So I am about to dive into reloading the 5.7x28 cartridge. Any updated info on what is best to get for trimming, and dies?

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Post by derek1387 » 15 Sep 2014, 09:34

And sorry for the question. I went through the 10 pages here, and seems like some great info, but a lot of it is also old posts. Just wanted to make sure I have the most up to date before I start loading.

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Post by Old Paul » 09 Dec 2014, 14:32

I checked out the shell holders you show, but they are all the new type, and I still use the old Hollywood single stage press.
Can anyone tell me which of the older, threaded shell holders, to use for the 5.7 cases, that my press uses, or at least what standard case it is based upon, or similar too?

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Post by panzermk2 » 10 Dec 2014, 14:26

25acp is about as close as you're going to get. Since you are using old style system it should be easy to get if you already don't have it.
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Post by Old Paul » 25 Dec 2014, 14:08

In checking around the Internet, I learned that Midway sells an RCBS H Press Shellholder Adapter, #404696, for $19.99, plus SHH, and several reloading companies make the modern shell holder, including the Lyman Shellholder #35 (5.7x28, # 837700, for $7.39, which will fit in to the above adapter, to work in my Hollywood Sr. press.

I also found at least a couple of die sets (2 & 3 Die sets), and a 5.7x28 case length trimer too.

Now if you have an electronic powder despensor, and scale, you should be able to use one of the 5.7 x28 loading book minimum loads (Western Powder Reloading, and Load Data Guide, Edition 5.0) , and work up slowly, without damaging you gun.

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Post by 748 » 25 Dec 2014, 21:17

To trim cases I bought the Trimpro-2 upgrade shell holder for $50.
The Trimpro-2 upgrade replaces the lever and removeable shell holder plates with a universal shell holding chuck.
I haven't used my shell trimmer for several years and after 3 moves I believe all the shell holding plates aside for 223 (the last one installed on there) are lost for good. The universal shell holding chuck is advertised "to hold everything from 338 [something or other] magnum to 5.7x28."

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Post by sledgehammer » 30 Mar 2015, 07:10

Anyone have any opinion on using the RCBS chargemaster as the scale of choice?

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Post by grimmond » 30 Mar 2015, 11:32

I use it and It works perfectly. Buy an additional check weights in different grains to double check it Periodically during use.
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Post by Bazzer69 » 14 Apr 2015, 10:38

panzermk2 wrote:I would avoid LEE. They have been making 5.7 dies lately that are out of spec.
Hang on a minute, Ive just ordered LEE dies based upon your previous recommendations. Now your saying don't buy LEE dies? Should I cancel the order? And what to get now?
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Post by Rapier1772 » 14 Apr 2015, 10:55

He said that last August.
To be fair though, Lee was a leader in making good dies for the 5.7x28mm but then a couple of years ago they changed something, now they aren't so good. If you can cancel the order, I would consider it.
The dies people are recommending now are the CH4D dies.
I have the early Lee dies so I am good to go, I have not tried the CH4D dies.
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Post by jkelley209 » 14 Apr 2015, 11:06

Redding dies are very good too.

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Post by Bazzer69 » 14 Apr 2015, 11:15

I've just ordered the Lee dies. The CH4d seem to have a long lead time.
Sorry, no offence intended.

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Post by panzermk2 » 14 Apr 2015, 16:22

And this is where it started discovering LEE had changed their dies.


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Post by panzermk2 » 14 Apr 2015, 16:26

I also started carrying and recommending CH4D dies after the good results forum members had been having with them.

When more then a few senior forum members had great results with CH4D I ordered a set and started testing them. Based on that additional testing I not only started suggesting using them I started stocking them.


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Post by DoubleJ » 14 Apr 2015, 18:27

grimmond wrote:I use it and It works perfectly. Buy an additional check weights in different grains to double check it Periodically during use.
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panzermk2 wrote:I also started carrying and recommending CH4D dies after the good results forum members had been having with them.

When more then a few senior forum members had great results with CH4D I ordered a set and started testing them. Based on that additional testing I not only started suggesting using them I started stocking them.


We are about to put a large order in for them this Wednesday morning. If you want a set and not a long wait ORDER NOW!
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Post by jkelley209 » 16 Apr 2015, 08:23

What powder do you prefer Jay?

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Post by panzermk2 » 16 Apr 2015, 10:07

jkelley209 wrote:What powder do you prefer Jay?
Retail it's true blue.

Currently I am importing a custom blend tweaked for the 5.7. It matches PBC673 which was the first powder used for the 5.7 and designed for it. Until now no powder matched it. This does. I may jug it for retail sales but that will be after I have the brass project cleared off my plate.
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