T6 arrived today

[gryphon]

:clap: :thumb:

Thanks, EA!

[Lucky 13]

mine too!!!!! yes thanks ,i finally have some worthy carry ammo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MikeSantor]

Looks like I have to take a drive...

[blueorison]

Language.

It is not appropriate for open forums.

[Thedirtyheat]

I need to order some I think... Sighhhhhh time to cave!

[MikeSantor]

Language.

It is not appropriate for open forums.

No Idea what you are talking about....

[fd57]

Sweet. Hope to test in next couple of weeks.

[gryphon]

I probably should order a couple of more boxes while I still can (presuming I still can).

[panzermk2]

I probably should order a couple of more boxes while I still can (presuming I still can).

You can, we have a machine running 24/7. The only time it stops is when it's out of materiel.

[Prepper]

I probably should order a couple of more boxes while I still can (presuming I still can).

You can, we have a machine running 24/7. The only time it stops is when it's out of materiel.

Any chance of 223 or 556?

[blueorison]

Sweet. Hope to test in next couple of weeks.

Sweet picture!

Looks like the colour changed to a more bronze. I MISS the solid gold colour of the round and brass together.

It looked scary as heck.

I would often find myself carrying around rounds with no gun for CCW, and just pulling the rounds out and threatening bad guys with it...

But NOTHING CAN KEEP YOU DOWN. Glad EA got right back up and started making snit that we can load and protect ourselves, with. :thumb:

[Buffman]

I'd like to see these loaded in a 5.56 How fast can a 28gr bullet go in 5.56? Damn it I need some now.

[fd57]

Jay - anything coming for .308?

[fd57]

Sweet picture!

Looks like the colour changed to a more bronze. I MISS the solid gold colour of the round and brass together.

It looked scary as heck.

I would often find myself carrying around rounds with no gun for CCW, and just pulling the rounds out and threatening bad guys with it...

But NOTHING CAN KEEP YOU DOWN. Glad EA got right back up and started making snit that we can load and protect ourselves, with. :thumb:

Grazie for the snap prop. We buy to shoot - so more than a hundred of those T-6s will be pushing their way through barrels soon.

Colours are close ... some subtle differences. Maybe we can line up the line and post a snap. Old and new.

[blueorison]

FD57,

I know for a fact that many will want to see testing that was done to the original, done to the latter. I'll use it either way, but for the OCD types, no matter what you say, it will have to be reproofed.

I'm still waiting on 3 different lines to go boar hunting. Last time I went in November with another forum member, we didn't see any. I brought EA along to shoot, of course. I did hit a few things with ss197 and .357SIG. The EA would have been much too overkill for them.

[panzermk2]

Jay - anything coming for .308?

Down the road.

[fd57]

2012 or 2013 if there's an ETA?

[firestorm248]

Jay - anything coming for .308?

Down the road.

Thats exciting to hear, would love to shoot some .308 Trident out of my SCAR

[sentry36t]

Ordered my new t6 yesterday, will the older brass ones become collectable?

[blueorison]

Current ammunition like S4, that EA still was producing, sold on Gunbroker for almost double the price. Current S4M still sells for more than EA retails.

T6 was something brand new that offered powerful penetrating abilities while fragmenting into several wound channels. It was only offered for a short time before EA the BS of the ATF happened. And, as many pointed out, it looked terrifyingly beautiful and deadly, by itself.

Myself-and undoubtedly-others, are encouraged by the fact that EA did not settle and chose to constantly come back with innovative and functional products. In this case... twice. :cya:

[nrv216]

Jay - anything coming for .308?

Down the road.

Thats exciting to hear, would love to shoot some .308 Trident out of my SCAR

:agree: .308 T6 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[MpoweredM]

So sad I was out of country and unable to order these. Can't wait until they are accepting orders again!!

[Kilibreaux]

I see a lot of links to "experts" who profess to know what is an effective round, and so, sitting here it suddenly dawned on me that "I" am an expert as well! I've been a critical care Registered Nurse for 20 years. I've worked in some of the "busiest" Level One Trauma centers as well as some of the equally "busy" backwater county Emergency Rooms and seen my share of GSW's (gunshot wounds) come through the door so and I suspect I have far more REAL experience with what bullets "do" than all the armchair supposed experts. What I have to say will not I suspect be well-received by the bigger is better crowd.
I've seen a LOT of people shot with the .45 ACP and 9mm simply WALK IN THE DOOR with no outwardly ill effect. I've seen people shot with the lowly .22LR come in by ambulance, in shock, near death.
I was an avid ballistics enthusiast for many years prior to entering the medical field and I felt (as most ballistics enthusiasts do), that large-bore, high-powered hangun rounds were THE thing to carry...and in fact this is true, but this refers to carrying calibers such as top-loaded .357 magnums, .41/.44 magnums and up. Perhaps hot loaded .45 ACP and 9mm with the right bullet and the right load (meaning hand load) can do the dance, but 20 years of SEEING FIRST-HAND what standard loads (I presume) do has left me a bit "cold" on the subject.
First, human tissue does not react like ballistic gelatin regardless of what any "expert" claims. When a bullet enters and passes through a human, the tissue does not "fracture," nor does it remain "blown out" or in receipt of some mythical "crush cavity." What human tissue DOES is slough off bullet impacts with amazingly efficiency! I'm talking about low-powered bullets here of course. The whole "permanent crush cavity" thing is absolutely hysterical...I've SEEN probably thousands of bullet wounds created by low-powered handguns such as the 9mm, .38 spl, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP, and NONE had "permanently crushed ballistic tracks!" NONE. The human body...TISSUE simply does not respond that way. Additionally, human skin stretches like a latex balloon and so does the underlying tissue...basically, subsonic bullets of ALL calibers kill by damaging or destroying necessary arteries/vessels/nerve tissue as they pass by, NOT by any mythical crush cavity, temporary, permanent, or otherwise.
Why am I going on such a tirade about this? Because the ONE caliber I have observed to be amazingly LETHAL is the lowly .22 Long Rifle. And I'm not talking about .22's fired from long barrels here....SHORT, pistol barrels provide all the impetus the .22LR needs to do amazing things FAR beyond what it should be able to do based upon paper statistics.
The 5.7x28 fits in the exact same category, only MAGNIFIED! A .22LR at 1200 fps impact will tumble wildly, and follow any "superhighway" it connects too...meaning veins, or sections between sinew and bone. The 5.7x28 will do the same. The .22LR generally starts out life with about 100 lb-ft. of KE depending on loading and barrel length yet the impact RESULT is far, FAR beyond what this number would suggest. The 5.7x28 starts out at close to twice the speed...meaning violent tumbling in tissue complete with fragmentation. If a bullet passes clean through a person it's carrying MOST of the kinetic energy with it. The REASON the 5.56x45 is so deadly is quite because the bullet was originally a "varmint" caliber not considered adequate for taking dangerous animals, YET when it comes to big, bad HUMANS, a varmint round does an amazing job! The 5.7x28 may impact with a mere 300 lb-ft of KE, yet the tumbling effect of the bullet when it comes to dumping all KE into the target CANNOT be ignored....well, it can by the "bigger is better" crowd, but only to their folly.
Anyway, after a couple of years dealing with GSW's of all calibers I realized that a .22LR is probably the IDEAL "carry gun"....and no, I don't expect to convince ANYONE of this, but it is based upon my actual experience. The 5.7x28 brings all that and DOUBLE to the table. Approximately 2.5-3X the KE, same lightweight bullet albeit constructed to penetrate, and it's not hard at all to see why the U.S. Secret Service carries the Five-Seven, or why so many police agencies nationwide have adopted it. Clearly others recognize the lethality of the cartridge!
the .40 S&W was supposed to be the Cat's meow...now thanks to government regulatory interference the .45 ACP is back in favor, yet none of the major police agencies choose it...why? At the same time they HAVE chosen the 5.7x28...again, WHY?
Having seen my share (and a few dozen other people's) of people shot by everything from the .22 up to .30'06 I know the rationale and the reason for the 5.7x28 becoming the standard...it gets the job done in a hurry!
Does this mean I think it is "better" than everything else...of course not! A high-powered rifle round from a rifle barrel is destructive of human tissue to a degree that simply must be seen to appreciated....UNLIKE TV, people shot with such rounds lose whatever future they might have had, and the same would be true of those hit by any "real" magnum handgun round.
I wish we could contrive some new, more accurate method of measuring ballistic effectiveness because as it stands people tend to shake out in the small bullet at high speed catagory, or the giant bullet walking out the barrel crowd. The fact is...VELOCITY is everything when it comes to bone fragmentation and tissue destruction. A bullet capable of punching through a Kevlar vest and plate will do the same to bone, and it will tumble and fragment dumping every shred of KE into the recipient.
I tend to think KE is THE "Gold Standard" based upon observed results, and truth be told a hit from a high-velocity, high-KE bullets are quite destructive, while large, slow bullets have no effect beyond that tissue they immediately contact.
My CURRENT "carry gun" is a Walther P22, or a Beretta Tomcat .32...both "piddling" by many standards yet from my own experience I know I'm as well armed to deal with humans as anyone. IF I were interested in punching through CAR steel, then THAT would make a difference!
The Five-Seven is THE carry solution. With the right ammo (Elite for those who cannot reload), it will punch through sheet steel will ease and tumble into flesh which makes it useful for anyone who contemplates a running gunfight on the road. "Penetrator" ammo will easily punch through door sheet steel that would stop magnum rounds designed to expand.
Several years ago I had the opportunity to test a variety of handgun loads on car doors and to my utter surprise the vaunted .44 magnum loaded with expanding point ammo had a hard time punching clean through...the Five-Seven punches through almost without saying....

[JoJo]

Wow.

[panzermk2]

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[f3rr37]

Well said!

[NLVMike]

Right on. I'm thinking that post needs it's own thread.

[blueorison]

Whatever.

the .45 is the best caliber ever created.

and the 1911 is the best gun ever created.








my airsoft forums tell me that all true operators carry the 1911.

[MpoweredM]

Is there any light showing to when these will be orderable again?

[WISCOPROUD]

Is there any light showing to when these will be orderable again?

I 2nd this :guns:

[panzermk2]

Honestly no.

I have a subcontractor turn the bullets for me. The CNC auto feed lathe costs 5x what a standard 3 way CNC machine costs so I can't buy one currently. I had to fire my last one for sending me under sized bullets.

Between that and how many orders we received when I brought it back we have fallen behind.

I am working with a new subcontractor and waiting on the first shipment of T6 bullets. If they can deliver like they say (They are a full time bullet maker) it will only take weeks to get caught back up once I have the bullets on sight.

[WISCOPROUD]

hope everything works out & we can set you backordered again

[MikeSantor]

I need a few boxes of these when you get caught back up, Please.

[BADDOG45ACP]

I would also like a (1) box, if everything gets caught up again...

[WISCOPROUD]

got my 2 boxes of PenetratoR 2day. thanx Jay & Lisa!!!!! Cant wait to get my slide now