Someone please let me borrow $5k!

[sabotteur]

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =206083821" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:drool:

I so want this....too bad I just bought that damn HK94 with all the bells and whistles...

[Kerberos]

EDITED: I see, it's a SPAS-15, not a SPAS-12. That is REALLY nice :clap:

[SeaHawkDriver-B]

There must be some sort of novelty of the SPAS15, either its a pre-ban unicorn, or its entry level NFA.

[sabotteur]

Only about 110 of them made it in the country.....

[ynoty3k]

Only about 110 of them made it in the country.....

From wiki: In 1996, the United States banned the importation of the SPAS-15, but it can still be legally owned and sold. In Canada, the SPAS-15 is classified as a Prohibited Weapon and cannot be legally owned or imported except under very limited circumstances.[3] In Italy the SPAS-15 is not subject to any kind of restriction for sale, purchase or possess, and despite being no longer in production it is still fairly common on the civilian market.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchi_SPAS-15" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Any clues why it was banned?

[PainKillaX]

I don't really need BOTH kidneys, do I?

[DAUG]

Nice, kind of reminds me of when the AA-12 was once available in Semi-Auto in the early days. Didn't take advantage of the opportunity at the time, but very cool if you're looking for something that devastating.

[PainKillaX]

Any clues why it was banned?

If it's like the Striker-12, USAS-12, Street Sweeper, etc, it was deemed as not having a sporting purpose and thus classified as a destructive device under this BATFE ruling, although said ruling names them by name so I'm not certain.

It's funny, the gun looks very Robocop to me :laugh:

[SeaHawkDriver-B]

At what point was the AA-12 availble as a semi to civilians?

[PainKillaX]

At what point was the AA-12 availble as a semi to civilians?

Ive seen one at a chantilly show, had to be on of these 86'. As far as price, i dont remember what it was. this is a good read on it. http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=171989" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't think the AA-12 has ever been for sale to civis, as they were manufactured after the ban. The USAS-12 however was banned in 2001. I think this may be where the confusion is, given the similarity in name and looks.

--After doing some reading, I found that the "Atchisson Assault Shotgun" was developed in 1972, was the basis for the USAS-12, and the rights and plans were later sold. Changes were made, giving us the 2006 "AA-12".
So the Atchisson Assault and USAS-12 -could- have been sold in the states prior to being classified as destructive devices, the AA-12 could/can not.

AA-12

USAS-12

[PainKillaX]

most deff was. read the article. and ive seen it with my own eyes. it was transferable to civis.

Mr. Jerry Babar, President/CEO of Military Police Systems, Inc. (MPS, Inc.) of Piney Flats, Tennessee and developer of the AA-12 Shotgun, kindly answered my questions today, 23 Feb 2009, which I transcribed (possibly with some minor errors) as follows: " your call about the AA-12. By the 1986 Federal law, any [machine] guns made prior to 19 May 1986 are transferable, and there are 400,000 legal machine guns in the United States. Any [machine] guns made after 19 May 1986 are not transferable to civilians and cannot be [built by or owned (inaudible)] by civilians. And in fact, if I ever get my license up, I can assure you that I can't even have them [AA-12's]. I can't keep them in stock or transfer them, or somebody will have my license. There are 19, almost 20 [AA-12] guns built right now and they are with various military operations for evaluation, and they are involved with some of the manufacture of them [AA-12's]. Watch the Military Channel in June [2009] for the new Robot video that we just did. It is a really good 20-30 minute video. It will be under the "Ultimate Weapons" program. Also, the New Yorker magazine has a six page article on us. I appreciate you for calling. Thanks alot."


Read more: http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtop ... z1831TsvwJ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm not trying to get into a pissing match or anything, I'm just saying that nowhere so far have I seen anything saying the current model of the AA-12 is or has ever been owned by civilians.

[sabotteur]

You can't own the current model. The older ones you can, they sell for about 1k, and they are a class III item even though they are semi-auto.

Do a search on GB, if one doesn't pop up, look over the past 90 days. There should be one or two of them.

[ynoty3k]

At what point was the AA-12 availble as a semi to civilians?

Ive seen one at a chantilly show, had to be on of these 86'. As far as price, i dont remember what it was. this is a good read on it. http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=171989" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

boy, You best hit me up next time you go to a Chantilly show, That's like 20 min from my house!

[panzermk2wife]

Unless the gun is going to shoot on command I would never drop that kind of money on one :laugh:

[PainKillaX]

It would probably be quite easy to make a gun shoot on command...what's the law on that? :skep:

[panzermk2wife]

:lmao:

[Rover]

That is way cool.