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Added your questions onto the other list so we can keep everything together & not have to go searching again. Unfortunately, I could only answer 1 question with certainty. Anyone else care to chime in, preferably with experience in that area?
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eVenom wrote:a couple more questions
Will this VOID the warranty? how big of a deal is this?
Will this affect the ability to get support by FN?
The official corp policy is YES. This is also the same for every single other maker. Have a Colt with a crappy trigger, have it worked on? Voids the warranty.
Now that being said there have been a person or two that has buggered up their guns on their own AFTER EA worked on them and FNH still warrantied them.
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Just send it back to EA if FN won't touch it (but I bet they would), they can fix anything and make it better than it was before...
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Im wondering how bad the SA trigger on the FsN is. I pick it up on Thursday and all of these interests in the trigger work have me wondering.
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The stock trigger isn't horrible, but When you get the works done by EA the difference is huge. I don't swing on anyones tree. If the accurizing wasn't good, I would say it wasn't, or wasn't worth the money. But I can honestly say that the difference is night and day. But in the same sense, its not like your going to get your fiveseven and be all disappointing in the trigger pull...
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Like others have said, the stock trigger isn't bad at all. I've definitely seen much worse factory triggers. However, the EA trigger job makes it much nicer. Worth every penny.
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I just got mine back and the improvement in the trigger is amazing!!!!
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You guys honestly think that the trigger "isn't that bad to begin with"? Maybe I just got a lemon, but my FSN had the worst factory trigger I've ever owned. Especially for a $1K gun.
Big +1 for the EA trigger job.
Big +1 for the EA trigger job.
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My stock trigger really wasn't horrible. Definitely nothing to get excited about at all though. However, everyone that knows guns that has checked out my EA trigger has responded, "Wow, that's nice!"
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How much is this trigger job and how long does it take to complete?
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Thanks!panzermk2wife wrote:All the answers can be found on the website
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Are we allowed to bug you to ask how our guns are coming along?
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Sure you can ask but I won't answer :lmao:Buffman wrote:Are we allowed to bug you to ask how our guns are coming along?
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Pants on fire! You always do answer, even if it's not the one we're looking for. You guys communicate better than pretty much everyone else out there in my experience.panzermk2wife wrote:Sure you can ask but I won't answer :lmao:Buffman wrote:Are we allowed to bug you to ask how our guns are coming along?
So, can I have my gun back now please :p
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Well, it worked for jgreenberg01 as he got his gun back, so I thought I'd try!... Quote; "So, can I have my gun back now please"... Un-quote... Thanks, Billjgreenberg01 wrote:Pants on fire! You always do answer, even if it's not the one we're looking for. You guys communicate better than pretty much everyone else out there in my experience.panzermk2wife wrote:Sure you can ask but I won't answer :lmao:Buffman wrote:Are we allowed to bug you to ask how our guns are coming along?
So, can I have my gun back now please :p
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32blownhemi wrote:Well, it worked for jgreenberg01 as he got his gun back, so I thought I'd try!... Quote; "So, can I have my gun back now please"... Un-quote... Thanks, Billjgreenberg01 wrote:Pants on fire! You always do answer, even if it's not the one we're looking for. You guys communicate better than pretty much everyone else out there in my experience.panzermk2wife wrote:Sure you can ask but I won't answer :lmao:Buffman wrote:Are we allowed to bug you to ask how our guns are coming along?
So, can I have my gun back now please :p
You send me adult rated pics of hot naked girlfriends and you might. Hi Mel!
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I wouldn't say that she was naked. She was wearing ProtecTORs in strategic (or should that be tactical? :p ) places, oh and an EA hat...panzermk2 wrote:You send me adult rated pics of hot naked girlfriends and you might. Hi Mel!
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Damn, sounds like there was some interesting stuff floating around before my time...
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I didn't start the thread, but here is where it began:MikeSantor wrote:Damn, sounds like there was some interesting stuff floating around before my time...
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Ah ha, so that's it! Well, I asked my GF & she said "NO"... BUT, I bought her a bottle of Vodka for Christmas, so we'll see!
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Ok, naked pic's are on the way Incredible difference! He sent his in on Oct. 17Th & already got it back! ... I sent mine in on Sept. 29th & still haven't ... Ya just got a love these forums with all the available info!
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Hemi,
remember that not all FsN's are created equal. Mine took much more work than the majority of the others, here.
Patience wins every time.
remember that not all FsN's are created equal. Mine took much more work than the majority of the others, here.
Patience wins every time.
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Stop relying on others to do the work for you.
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Thank you blueorison... Yeah, I remember when I used to be a shop welder & some customers would watch & keep saying; "Aren't you done yet, aren't you done yet", on & on. Finally I'd get tired of hearing it so I'd just say; "Yep, it's done". They'd look at their 'job' & say; "it doesn't look done". And I'd say; "Then why'd you ask?"...blueorison wrote:Hemi,
remember that not all FsN's are created equal. Mine took much more work than the majority of the others, here.
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Got mine back today. My only complaint so far seems to be that the mags don't eject very well at all now that the disconnect is gone. Has anyone or EA modified the mag disconnect to just be long enough to put pressure on the magazine, but not interfere with the trigger bar? Otherwise really impressed. I can spot the polished and lapped parts, and the trigger lost at least 2lbs
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My mags still eject forcefully, I see no difference in that sense.
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Mine aren't as forceful as they were unless there is still a round or two in the mag. However, I've never had a problem dropping the mag - empty or loaded.
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Could be just my gun, but I recall it being able originally to drop the promag(30rder)I have on slide lock. Now it doesn't seem to want to. I have one factory 20rounder, that If I slam home, it seems to go alittle above where it needs to be, and the mag lock engages, but doesn't click, and the mag sits there from tension on the release.. I inspected my release and it didn't look that worn.
Other than that, I can't wait to fire it hopefully tomorrow.
Other than that, I can't wait to fire it hopefully tomorrow.
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Buffman wrote:Got mine back today. My only complaint so far seems to be that the mags don't eject very well at all now that the disconnect is gone. Has anyone or EA modified the mag disconnect to just be long enough to put pressure on the magazine, but not interfere with the trigger bar? Otherwise really impressed. I can spot the polished and lapped parts, and the trigger lost at least 2lbs
Some do some don't. It comes down to a mass produced frame. Send me all your mags and I will work them over.
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Hey Buffman, from what you are saying, it makes it sound like the 20-rounder overshoots the catch? How is it possible if it goes above where it needs to be and not "click" on the mag release? Could you explain more? Thanks.Buffman wrote:Could be just my gun, but I recall it being able originally to drop the promag(30rder)I have on slide lock. Now it doesn't seem to want to. I have one factory 20rounder, that If I slam home, it seems to go alittle above where it needs to be, and the mag lock engages, but doesn't click, and the mag sits there from tension on the release.. I inspected my release and it didn't look that worn.
Other than that, I can't wait to fire it hopefully tomorrow.
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That's what it seems like it's doing. If I get time tonight, I'll take a video. There is some up and down movement of the magazines (evident by the slight gap between the grip and magazine), and this particular one can be pushed up higher on slide lock, and there's no lockin of the mag release, but the mag just sits there .blueorison wrote:Hey Buffman, from what you are saying, it makes it sound like the 20-rounder overshoots the catch? How is it possible if it goes above where it needs to be and not "click" on the mag release? Could you explain more? Thanks.Buffman wrote:Could be just my gun, but I recall it being able originally to drop the promag(30rder)I have on slide lock. Now it doesn't seem to want to. I have one factory 20rounder, that If I slam home, it seems to go alittle above where it needs to be, and the mag lock engages, but doesn't click, and the mag sits there from tension on the release.. I inspected my release and it didn't look that worn.
Other than that, I can't wait to fire it hopefully tomorrow.
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That means the mag catch is not catching at all on the mag as it goes up, and the mag overshoots it. That is very odd.
Because I don't remember that EA modifies anything on the magazine release...
I'm sure the issue will be worked out, seems really simple. Can you confirm that the mag indent on your magazine is the same for the rest of the mags that work properly?
Because I don't remember that EA modifies anything on the magazine release...
I'm sure the issue will be worked out, seems really simple. Can you confirm that the mag indent on your magazine is the same for the rest of the mags that work properly?
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I'll look tonight.
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If you have a polymer release it might be showing some wear.
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Buffman, I couldn't really tell which ones were the problem magazines.
They all seemed to drop free besides the Promag (I don't like anything Promag, sidenote).
Can you just do a video with the problem mags and do a close-up showing which ones have their indents on the magazines slide up past the mag catch without catching?
And which ones aren't drop free?
Sorry for the trouble I saw you use many mags really quickly and didn't get a solid picture.
They all seemed to drop free besides the Promag (I don't like anything Promag, sidenote).
Can you just do a video with the problem mags and do a close-up showing which ones have their indents on the magazines slide up past the mag catch without catching?
And which ones aren't drop free?
Sorry for the trouble I saw you use many mags really quickly and didn't get a solid picture.
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Yeah sorry. Camerawoman was being impatient. Originally I only noticed the first one I show in the video to go up past what it felt like it should. I had another at the range do the same thing when I shot Pro IIs. It didn't lock the slide back, and then it didn't drop free. I stopped using that one yesterday, and then put 150 rounds through it. When I got home the one with the Pro II's still didn't drop free, but the one with the S4 now does.
I mainly was just wondering if those internal mold lines should be that pronounced.
I mainly was just wondering if those internal mold lines should be that pronounced.
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There should be no issue locking back the slide.
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Matt;
FsN's have those horizontal mold lines that go across the section of the inner magwell. They have nothing to do with the mags not dropping free. You can easily sand them out, also.
FsN's have those horizontal mold lines that go across the section of the inner magwell. They have nothing to do with the mags not dropping free. You can easily sand them out, also.
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I'm quite perplexed at why the Pro II isn't locking the slide back also. I've shot the Var II round which is one of the slowest rounds EA has to offer. It had no problem locking the slide back. The same with 197, 195, 198, Pro, S4. Just the two times I've shot Pro II, it fails to lock the slide back on the last round. I know the Pro IIs are the highest recoiling rounds I've ever shot through the gun, just trying to find out a reason why..panzermk2 wrote:There should be no issue locking back the slide.
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Is it possible that, due to the heavy recoil of the Pro II, that the slide is rebounding faster than the lock is coming up under spring pressure?
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Could be. I'll throw an EA extra power mag spring in a magazine today and test.
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Did you install or have EA install the heavy recoil spring?
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I have had no issues with ProII locking slides back. Your gun along with most we have worked on lately have been tested with it before being shipped back. Something else is going on under recoil.
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I found the issue, I do believe. I'll post a video later. Really sad today. Somehow the screw broke that holds the rear adjustable sight down EA do you guys have spare parts for the adjustable sights?
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Hi Jay, I talked to you on Jan. 12th. r/e the status of my trigger job & night sights. You said the trigger job was done but not the night sights as you were waiting on the material. I'd like to get an up-date on this... Thanks, Bill Rogers
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32blownhemi wrote:Hi Jay, I talked to you on Jan. 12th. r/e the status of my trigger job & night sights. You said the trigger job was done but not the night sights as you were waiting on the material. I'd like to get an up-date on this... Thanks, Bill Rogers
Still the same. My supplier has had issues and has had a massive delay creating havoc here. I was promised I would see them this week.
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Hi Jay, I just sent you an e-mail & then saw your reply here! If the material comes in this week, GREAT! I'd like them, but otherwise I'll just pass on the night sights. I miss my FN! ... Thanks, Bill Rogerspanzermk2 wrote:32blownhemi wrote:Hi Jay, I talked to you on Jan. 12th. r/e the status of my trigger job & night sights. You said the trigger job was done but not the night sights as you were waiting on the material. I'd like to get an up-date on this... Thanks, Bill Rogers
Still the same. My supplier has had issues and has had a massive delay creating havoc here. I was promised I would see them this week.
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32blownhemi wrote:Hi Jay, I just sent you an e-mail & then saw your reply here! If the material comes in this week, GREAT! I'd like them, but otherwise I'll just pass on the night sights. I miss my FN! ... Thanks, Bill Rogerspanzermk2 wrote:32blownhemi wrote:Hi Jay, I talked to you on Jan. 12th. r/e the status of my trigger job & night sights. You said the trigger job was done but not the night sights as you were waiting on the material. I'd like to get an up-date on this... Thanks, Bill Rogers
Still the same. My supplier has had issues and has had a massive delay creating havoc here. I was promised I would see them this week.
The problem is front blades have been drilled out all ready and rear blade's removed with empty holes waiting for tubes.
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Jay, well it seemed like a good idea at the time.... Ah, plan 'B' I'll post a WTB a slide in the sales section... Maybe someone who's getting one of your new slides wants to sell their old one? Or do the old sights transfer over to the new slide?? Or do you guys have one for sale? Then I can have you ship back the rest of the gun & I'll use a different slide until the night sights are done? Thanks, Bill
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32blownhemi wrote:Jay, well it seemed like a good idea at the time.... Ah, plan 'B' I'll post a WTB a slide in the sales section... Maybe someone who's getting one of your new slides wants to sell their old one? Or do the old sights transfer over to the new slide?? Or do you guys have one for sale? Then I can have you ship back the rest of the gun & I'll use a different slide until the night sights are done? Thanks, Bill
Friday A great big bag of stuff came in. At least 90% of all sights will go through assembly starting Monday. Slides will start shipping ASAP.
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Jay, I got your e-mail reply! Thanks & I'm looking forward to getting my 5.7 back complete with accurizing job & night sights! Bill
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Hi Jay, Got my 5.7 back, thank you! ... But, something isn't right. #1) I haven't taken it to the range yet but when I rack the slide back & them let it go forward the trigger won't fire. #2) If I put the magazine in and then rack the slide back it won't go forward unless either one of two things; #1) there is a round it the mag. & then it loads the gun or #2) I drop the magazine, then the slide goes forward & the trigger pulls... What's going on??? Thanks, Bill
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Are you easing the slide forward or letting it slam? You should let it slam. I shot at least 50 rounds through it before cleaning it up and shipping it out.32blownhemi wrote:Hi Jay, Got my 5.7 back, thank you! ... But, something isn't right. #1) I haven't taken it to the range yet but when I rack the slide back & them let it go forward the trigger won't fire. #2) If I put the magazine in and then rack the slide back it won't go forward unless either one of two things; #1) there is a round it the mag. & then it loads the gun or #2) I drop the magazine, then the slide goes forward & the trigger pulls... What's going on??? Thanks, Bill
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Jay, with NO magazine in the gun I pull the slide back, let it go & the slide goes all the way forward. But the gun won't dry fire. Is the magazine safety still hooked up? .... With a magazine in the gun {but no ammo in the magazine}, I pull the slide back & let it go, the slide goes forward 1/8" & then stops (I'm not easing it forward). So an empty magazine is keeping the slide from going forward. But, If I put ammo in the magazine, pull the slide back & let it go it chambers a round. I then pull the slide back, let it go & it ejects the un-shot round & chambers another round....
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???32blownhemi wrote:Jay, with NO magazine in the gun I pull the slide back, let it go & the slide goes all the way forward. But the gun won't dry fire. Is the magazine safety still hooked up? .... With a magazine in the gun {but no ammo in the magazine}, I pull the slide back & let it go, the slide goes forward 1/8" & then stops (I'm not easing it forward). So an empty magazine is keeping the slide from going forward. But, If I put ammo in the magazine, pull the slide back & let it go it chambers a round. I then pull the slide back, let it go & it ejects the un-shot round & chambers another round....
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