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Post by **panzermk2** » 08 Apr 2011, 22:28

EA FsN Extended Barrel

PainKillaX · Post by **PainKillaX** » 08 Apr 2011, 22:33

Holy shit! Can you thread it too (I know, I know, us ungrateful masses always want more :p)? How long has that been in the works? Are these going to be sold? ...WOWZA!

Post by **f3rr37** » 08 Apr 2011, 22:36

Time for a redesign of the slide and slide cover!

Post by **Rapier1772** » 08 Apr 2011, 22:38

Um, why?

Post by **blueorison** » 08 Apr 2011, 22:40

Longer sight radius.

And,

wow. Just wow. This means, many things. It may be my FsN dream come true.

My mind is racing right now. One word keeps surfacing. "Open class".

Post by **panzermk2** » 08 Apr 2011, 23:09

YES we will be selling them.

Velocity very close to P90.

We are making a threaded version.

We are making custom flash suppressors and muzzle brakes for them also.

firestorm248 · Post by **firestorm248** » 08 Apr 2011, 23:13

panzermk2 wrote:YES we will be selling them.

Velocity very close to P90.

We are making a threaded version.

We are making custom flash suppressors and muzzle brakes for them also.

Panzermk2…the great things that you come up with :thumb:

Post by **panzermk2** » 08 Apr 2011, 23:17

firestorm248 wrote:
panzermk2 wrote:YES we will be selling them.

Velocity very close to P90.

We are making a threaded version.

We are making custom flash suppressors and muzzle brakes for them also.
Panzermk2…the great things that you come up with :thumb:

Don't forget Vitaliy. He has been in charge of the barrel project. Yes we worked together on it but he has been the one sitting at the machine shop for days prototyping.

srt-4_jon · Post by **srt-4_jon** » 08 Apr 2011, 23:24

The extended barrel is cool but I cant wait for a threaded one like Jarvis's.

Post by **blueorison** » 08 Apr 2011, 23:33

I miss Vitaliy

Please let him know I said hi.

Also, if he wants the second EA Open-class, can I have the third?

My extremely short firearms-list just got reduced to this. (Although the SSR might be hiding somewhere).

I'm not sure people realize what just happened here.

Do ya'll realize how many handgun calibers EA just made obsolete? EA Rounds + setup just put everything into the dirt. We're going to have to start comparing 5.7x28mm using EA designations. In all the future apples to oranges caliber comparisons whoever starts the threads will need to start comparing it to much more devastating calibers and above.

I honestly don't think people realize what you've just done, EA.

Post by **panzermk2** » 09 Apr 2011, 00:58

srt-4_jon wrote:The extended barrel is cool but I cant wait for a threaded one like Jarvis's.

This one will be threaded. We are just testing it before threading this barrel.

Post by **jmz5** » 09 Apr 2011, 04:33

I was waiting to see how long it was going to take you to post this. I am so pumped, I need a threaded barrel, just not so long, I have to hang a suppressor off the end.

Mister Freeze · Post by **Mister Freeze** » 09 Apr 2011, 06:12

When you do a comp/muzzle break, incorporate a front sight blade!
Just how long could you make it (16"?!?!)

iFire · Post by **iFire** » 09 Apr 2011, 07:28

Wow. Wow. Wow.

My head is spinning with the possibilities :drool:

Hobknob · Post by **Hobknob** » 09 Apr 2011, 07:51

Awesome.
Psst...I think something is missing from your action (unless you've decided to do away with the safety as well and redesign the trigger mechanism in favor of a double action :p)

HG57 · Post by **HG57** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:39

Sweet, and with some kind of handguard rail, Sweeter!!! :clap:

cHaMeLeoN352 · Post by **cHaMeLeoN352** » 09 Apr 2011, 09:17

That is sweet! Great work EA team. :thumb:

Look forward to seeing what you come up with next.

Post by **panzermk2** » 09 Apr 2011, 09:33

Hobknob wrote:Awesome.
Psst...I think something is missing from your action (unless you've decided to do away with the safety as well and redesign the trigger mechanism in favor of a double action :p)

This one of my test guns. The safety has been removed.

The threaded barrel will be shorter.

The comp will have a standard Kimber/1911 dove tail cut so just about any after market front blade can be used.

martenbroadcloak · Post by **martenbroadcloak** » 09 Apr 2011, 09:36

Ludicrous. Simply ludicrious. :clap:

Do want. :drool:

srt-4_jon · Post by **srt-4_jon** » 09 Apr 2011, 09:39

any idea on a ballpark price for a threaded one? My FsN has been so jealous all my other guns get the suppressors

Post by **Rapier1772** » 09 Apr 2011, 09:47

blueorison wrote:
Rapier1772 wrote:Um, why?
Longer sight radius.

Took me a while to make sense of that answer, I think it finally dawned on me - derp. I was asking Jay why the longer barrel, not asking why Fuzzy wanted a new slide. (Sight radius is just the distance between sights right? As is, the longer barrel wouldn't do anything to sight radius. Hence Fuzzy's remark)

Anyway - I am still curious about why such a long barrel (extra 2"+?). I can see extensions for threading / compensator purposes but that is really about it for me. Those are what - an extra 3/4-1" in length? People already whine about how hard it is to conceal the FsN.
Yeah, you'll get higher speeds but at what cost? The inability to conceal the FsN with anything shorter than a trenchcoat? :p Or to make it so you can't bend your knee if you use an IWB? :laugh: Ok, maybe that is a slight exaggeration

Or is this just a range barrel? They are easy to switch out after all.

srt-4_jon · Post by **srt-4_jon** » 09 Apr 2011, 10:14

as far as concealment goes, most of the problems come from the grip length, not the slide length.

romer522 · Post by **romer522** » 09 Apr 2011, 10:27

I wonder what the implications on reliability are with this thing and a can on the end.

PainKillaX · Post by **PainKillaX** » 09 Apr 2011, 11:19

panzermk2 wrote:
Hobknob wrote:Awesome.
Psst...I think something is missing from your action (unless you've decided to do away with the safety as well and redesign the trigger mechanism in favor of a double action :p)
This one of my test guns. The safety has been removed.

The threaded barrel will be shorter.

The comp will have a standard Kimber/1911 dove tail cut so just about any after market front blade can be used.

The safety has been removed? So does it not fire or did you do another crazy modification? Why hasn't FNH hired you yet? :laugh:

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 09 Apr 2011, 12:59

Wow, something on the internet that really is close to 8".

Threaded version... YES!

Post by **blueorison** » 09 Apr 2011, 17:50

Jay you must be as cool as me because my safety is also disabled.

:lmao:

@Rapier: the same comment applies

The comp can host a cut that will allow a FS blade to be mounted, and thus the longer sight radius. Yes, the sight radius is the distance between the sights. The longer the radius, the more precise you will be able to place shots and spatially reason the distance between the blades. This usually leads to more accurate administration of fire. :thumb:

Bones · Post by **Bones** » 09 Apr 2011, 18:23

Okay :thumb: Sweet. I also like the idea of the threaded but how about a shroud or something along those lines? That is a real kick butt idea :agree: Way to go R&D EA :clap:

Post by **blueorison** » 09 Apr 2011, 18:38

Bones, the comp will effectively act as a "shroud".

Don't tell Jay I'm speculating or he'll beat me up.

Bones · Post by **Bones** » 09 Apr 2011, 19:05

:ponder: I am a visual person. Do you have any Crayon pictures? :lmao: I am just thinking pistol... Thin, shiny barrel....Big black can :ponder:

Post by **blueorison** » 09 Apr 2011, 19:22

Bones are you really trying to get me beat up by Jay for speculating? Ok I'll take the beating for you and speculate.

http://tinyurl.com/3ctpy9j" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jay might or might not have told me that it will be cylindrical in dimension. So, it will basically look like a suppressor. That is if he told me this. :laugh:

Bones · Post by **Bones** » 09 Apr 2011, 19:49

Nice.... Now let the beatings begin!....Put me in line for one :thumb:

Nickf150fx4 · Post by **Nickf150fx4** » 09 Apr 2011, 20:49

Awesome! can't wait to see the finished result!

fatherfoof · Post by **fatherfoof** » 10 Apr 2011, 11:12

Threaded with more stuff on the muzzle- I'd like to hear someone who competes on Blue's level about the change in the way it feels to get back on target. Seems a bit long but all Jay's ventures tend to work and work well.

Gramaton Cleric · Post by **Gramaton Cleric** » 10 Apr 2011, 11:19

this is too cool

Post by **panzermk2wife** » 10 Apr 2011, 17:31

I am gonna need more inventory space (which means a BIGGER office) with all the stuff these guys have going on........lol

Post by **panzermk2wife** » 10 Apr 2011, 17:32

srt-4_jon wrote:any idea on a ballpark price for a threaded one? My FsN has been so jealous all my other guns get the suppressors

Can't speculate right now until we find out from our machinist on time, labor and materials

PGT · Post by **PGT** » 10 Apr 2011, 17:36

We are making a threaded version.

We are making custom flash suppressors and muzzle brakes for them also.

<ears perked up> you have my attention</ears>

Bones · Post by **Bones** » 10 Apr 2011, 17:38

I can imagine its going to give another 4-500 FPS. Thats gonna be sweet fo sho :laugh: Then the fact I can attach a can. I am in line. No doubt! Good job :clap:
Sorry for the Oxymoron again "Good Job" :lmao:

Post by **blueorison** » 10 Apr 2011, 18:12

Bones, I don't think it will increase the velocity by that much of a margin. But the increase that it will effect is definitely one that will add to the lethality and completely change the way certain rounds perform.

This will give EA the opportunity to tune the round performance for their custom barrel and length such that it will fulfill the round's intended function with increased lethality, repeatability, and reliability.

Further, Lisa, I call dibs on the annex! I think Father agrees you need a dedicated in-house testor

kat_girl · Post by **kat_girl** » 10 Apr 2011, 20:14

I cannot tell you how exciting this is!!! It will bring the bullet effect a tiny bit closer to that of the PDW - nice to have more efficient use of that powder than making a big flash and bang!

Prepper · Post by **Prepper** » 11 Apr 2011, 14:16

Any updates on the extended barrel? I REALLY want one!

Post by **panzermk2wife** » 11 Apr 2011, 14:19

We only got the protype this past Friday.

It's will be a short time before we decide the cost and such.

And anything custom made I prefer to have in hand before even putting up on the website.

I learned from the Go/No Gauge nightmare

One project at a time for our machinist

SoCal Gunner · Post by **SoCal Gunner** » 12 Apr 2011, 07:37

Please tell me you're going to go the compensator route for us Californian's.

Post by **panzermk2** » 12 Apr 2011, 08:20

We are going to have a comp.

Varmiter · Post by **Varmiter** » 12 Apr 2011, 08:27

blueorison wrote:

Longer sight radius.

No disrespect meant but has the definition of ‘sight radius’ changed? The last I heard, the sight radius was the distance between the sights.

Chris

Post by **panzermk2** » 12 Apr 2011, 08:29

The comp will have a dovetail cut.

Varmiter · Post by **Varmiter** » 12 Apr 2011, 08:50

Ok, I take that statement to mean the dovetail is for the mounting of a new front sight. If so, how is one to remove the barrel from the slide with this new sight installed unless the sight is remove for each cleaning?

I like the idea of an extended barrel, but it does present it’s own problems.

Just trying to learn.

Chris

kat_girl · Post by **kat_girl** » 12 Apr 2011, 10:08

is there another CA law that says we can't have extended bbls now w/o compensators? sigh yep, sight radius is the distance between front and rear sights. If (when) I get one, I'll think of it as my P90 Kurtz

SoCal Gunner · Post by **SoCal Gunner** » 12 Apr 2011, 11:44

kat_girl wrote:is there another CA law that says we can't have extended bbls now w/o compensators? sigh yep, sight radius is the distance between front and rear sights. If (when) I get one, I'll think of it as my P90 Kurtz

No, you could have just the barrel - if it's not threaded. I was referring to the earlier comments about a threaded barrel with a suppressor.

Post by **blueorison** » 12 Apr 2011, 17:50

kat_girl wrote:is there another CA law that says we can't have extended bbls now w/o compensators? sigh yep, sight radius is the distance between front and rear sights. If (when) I get one, I'll think of it as my P90 Kurtz

Kat I know YOU want a comp on yours :lmao:

kat_girl · Post by **kat_girl** » 12 Apr 2011, 18:00

Not necessarily. I'm pretty recoil insensitive and usually shoot .40SW/.357Sig and just about everything else. If I can squeeze more velocity out of it that would be great....uh to be honest, now that I think about it, there's nothing like shooting my 22/45 Ruger and just watch the front sight nudge up and down! Also, with my G-27 (extended Storm Lake dual port) - I get the fastest accurate strings I've ever had (.357 Sig)

Me w/ my P229 (no comp, but CTC grips, factory SRT mod and trigger group work) Win .357Sig 125FMJ
http://twolftfeet.com/kattube.html

guess you were right after all!

OMiGosh! Flash Suppressor too??!! Sweeet!

Prepper · Post by **Prepper** » 07 May 2011, 01:50

Any updates?

Post by **panzermk2** » 07 May 2011, 06:55

We are testing production. 10 will be done next week.

kat_girl · Post by **kat_girl** » 07 May 2011, 09:55

oooo I want one

DAUG · Post by **DAUG** » 07 May 2011, 10:29

panzermk2 wrote:The comp will have a dovetail cut.

Jay,

Very cool, this I want to see ..... I just might get in line for a barrel and comp combo!

ShockedNKansas · Post by **ShockedNKansas** » 07 May 2011, 12:40

I keep looking at this barrel jutting out of a once very symmetrical and beautiful gun and just gasp. Perhaps I'm just a noob, but I can't imagine giving up what seems like tons of form for little function.

I don't have a PHD in physics, but it seems to me from the following data that there is a long way to go in bridging the gap between PS90 performance and the FsN. I guess that is why one is a pistol and the other is a carbine.

Stock FsN barrell length: 4.75in + modification (2in?) = 6.75in

Stock PS90 barrell length: 16.04in

The gap between the PS90 and FsN barrell length is 11.29in. After the modification the gap is now around 9.29in. The modification has narrowed the gap between the pistol and the carbine by 17.71%. To put my rude arithmetic into real life terms applying the 17.71% reduction in length gap to a 17.71% reduction in speed gap we get:

T6 PFP 28 grain

FsN: 2,570fps (stock) 2,663fps (modified barrel gain of 93fps)
PS90: 3,095fps

Using the kinetic energy formula we arrive at 411ft/lbs stock and 441ft/lbs with the modified barrel on the FsN. An increase of 30ft/lbs.

A gain of 30ft/lbs. with the trade off being a major loss in handling, form, and ability to conceal; I just don't get it. Please somebody enlighten me so I can be excited as well. Perhaps I made an error with my calculations of a gradual speed increase with a gradual increase in length? Perhaps more is gained in the first few inches than the last?

Also, those of you that are excited to put this long, exposed barrel on your gun? Why are you excited? Are you planning on trying to carry such a weapon?

Sorry to post the only negative comment in this thread but I just want some answers because I'm scratching my head over what seems like a large barrel extending party in here!

Also, if my memory serves, I thought I posted a critique early on in this thread?? Did somebody delete my post because it deviated from the status quo? That isn't very American.. :skep: I could be hallucinating though.. :ponder:

Robar · Post by **Robar** » 07 May 2011, 13:08

I don't think this barrel was intended for your carry gun. More for your range or comp gun.

Post by **blueorison** » 07 May 2011, 14:49

It's called a comp for a reason. It goes on the barrel and extends the dustcover lines. You're right, you probably won't benefit from it.

I plan on carrying it because it's what I want.

srt-4_jon · Post by **srt-4_jon** » 07 May 2011, 15:10

ShockedNKansas wrote: The gap between the PS90 and FsN barrell length is 11.29in. After the modification the gap is now around 9.29in. The modification has narrowed the gap between the pistol and the carbine by 17.71%. To put my rude arithmetic into real life terms applying the 17.71% reduction in length gap to a 17.71% reduction in speed gap we get:

Speed will not go up linearly as the length gets longer. If that were the case, you could argue that since the T6 goes 2,570 fps in a 4.75" barrel, that every inch gives you 541 fps so an extra 2" gets you 3246 fps. I am pretty sure it's the burn rate that effects where in the barrel the speed is built.

Also, how do I get in on one of those first 10 being done? I'd like a threaded barrel close to stock length without waiting forever at tornado tech.

Prepper · Post by **Prepper** » 07 May 2011, 16:11

Me too, me too!

ShockedNKansas · Post by **ShockedNKansas** » 07 May 2011, 16:29

srt-4_jon wrote:
ShockedNKansas wrote: The gap between the PS90 and FsN barrell length is 11.29in. After the modification the gap is now around 9.29in. The modification has narrowed the gap between the pistol and the carbine by 17.71%. To put my rude arithmetic into real life terms applying the 17.71% reduction in length gap to a 17.71% reduction in speed gap we get:
Speed will not go up linearly as the length gets longer. If that were the case, you could argue that since the T6 goes 2,570 fps in a 4.75" barrel, that every inch gives you 541 fps so an extra 2" gets you 3246 fps. I am pretty sure it's the burn rate that effects where in the barrel the speed is built.

Also, how do I get in on one of those first 10 being done? I'd like a threaded barrel close to stock length without waiting forever at tornado tech.

If you'll notice in my computations, I didn't simply divide the T6 velocity by the length of the stock barrel. What I did was find the percentage of length decrease of the distance gap between the PS90 and the FsN and correlate that to (perhaps falsely) the same percentage of speed gap decrease between the aforementioned guns.

What I do know is that T6 ammunition flies faster out of a PS90 than an FsN. What I don't know is how much of that 525fps speed differential is attributed to the first few inches versus the last. Someone with ballistic information on a round's speed out of a PS90 before and after a short barrel conversion would be helpful indeed.

ShockedNKansas · Post by **ShockedNKansas** » 07 May 2011, 16:47

I thought just occurred to me; considering that the PS90 barrel is 338% longer than the FsN's while only enjoying a 20.42% greater margin of velocity, obviously at some point firearm barrel lengths suffer from diminishing returns. That should have been obvious from the beginning to me... :facepalm: Now the question is.. what velocity weighting can we assign to the two inches that this extension will afford?

PainKillaX · Post by **PainKillaX** » 07 May 2011, 16:54

The range, and because it's more excellent work by EA.

If I want to carry, it takes a whole what...15 seconds to pop my slide off, pull out the long barrel, stick in the short barrel, and put the slide back on?

ShockedNKansas · Post by **ShockedNKansas** » 07 May 2011, 17:15

PainKillaX wrote:The range, and because it's more excellent work by EA.

If I want to carry, it takes a whole what...15 seconds to pop my slide off, pull out the long barrel, stick in the short barrel, and put the slide back on?

What does it do for you at the range? More accuracy?

Post by **panzermk2** » 07 May 2011, 21:07

ShockedNKansas wrote:I keep looking at this barrel jutting out of a once very symmetrical and beautiful gun and just gasp. Perhaps I'm just a noob, but I can't imagine giving up what seems like tons of form for little function.

I don't have a PHD in physics, but it seems to me from the following data that there is a long way to go in bridging the gap between PS90 performance and the FsN. I guess that is why one is a pistol and the other is a carbine.

Stock FsN barrell length: 4.75in + modification (2in?) = 6.75in

Stock PS90 barrell length: 16.04in

The gap between the PS90 and FsN barrell length is 11.29in. After the modification the gap is now around 9.29in. The modification has narrowed the gap between the pistol and the carbine by 17.71%. To put my rude arithmetic into real life terms applying the 17.71% reduction in length gap to a 17.71% reduction in speed gap we get:

T6 PFP 28 grain

FsN: 2,570fps (stock) 2,663fps (modified barrel gain of 93fps)
PS90: 3,095fps

Using the kinetic energy formula we arrive at 411ft/lbs stock and 441ft/lbs with the modified barrel on the FsN. An increase of 30ft/lbs.

A gain of 30ft/lbs. with the trade off being a major loss in handling, form, and ability to conceal; I just don't get it. Please somebody enlighten me so I can be excited as well. Perhaps I made an error with my calculations of a gradual speed increase with a gradual increase in length? Perhaps more is gained in the first few inches than the last?

Also, those of you that are excited to put this long, exposed barrel on your gun? Why are you excited? Are you planning on trying to carry such a weapon?

Sorry to post the only negative comment in this thread but I just want some answers because I'm scratching my head over what seems like a large barrel extending party in here!

Also, if my memory serves, I thought I posted a critique early on in this thread?? Did somebody delete my post because it deviated from the status quo? That isn't very American.. :skep: I could be hallucinating though.. :ponder:

The barrel is 8 inches long.

Post by **panzermk2** » 07 May 2011, 21:14

ShockedNKansas wrote:I thought just occurred to me; considering that the PS90 barrel is 338% longer than the FsN's while only enjoying a 20.42% greater margin of velocity, obviously at some point firearm barrel lengths suffer from diminishing returns. That should have been obvious from the beginning to me... :facepalm: Now the question is.. what velocity weighting can we assign to the two inches that this extension will afford?

That is because the 5.7x28 was created for the P90 with a 10.5 inch barrel and then the pistol. Your thinking like a civilian. The PS90 barrel length is to make it civilian legal. If it was a closed bolt system you would see greater increases in performance, but since it is a blow back you get limited gains. Our heavier rate reducer will help get better performance from the PS90 tube.

The 5.7x28 was optimized for the pistol and P90 barrel lengths. Our barrel almost doubles the pistols bringing it to just over 8 inches. So now it is very close to the P90 and what the round was optimized for.

Post by **blueorison** » 08 May 2011, 00:16

ShockedNKansas wrote:
PainKillaX wrote:The range, and because it's more excellent work by EA.

If I want to carry, it takes a whole what...15 seconds to pop my slide off, pull out the long barrel, stick in the short barrel, and put the slide back on?
What does it do for you at the range? More accuracy?

It brings me more power at the range. So I can smack steel harder.

@PanzermkII

Thanks for the update, boss.

I'm crossing my fingers.

SHEEPDOG · Post by **SHEEPDOG** » 08 May 2011, 12:34

Put me on the list for one with a comp. Lisa are you getting all this?

Gramaton Cleric · Post by **Gramaton Cleric** » 08 May 2011, 19:54

oh my...... the possibility

Post by **panzermk2wife** » 09 May 2011, 07:00

SHEEPDOG wrote:Put me on the list for one with a comp. Lisa are you getting all this?

:lmao: No

Stressing out....way too many things I am doing

Post by **Grantness** » 08 Jun 2011, 06:46

What he have here gentlemen/ladies is an entirely new weapon. We are looking at energies similar to or exceeding .357mag, terminal performance that can either spread shrapnel everywhere (a surgeon's nightmare) or open up ~5" wound cavities...whilst dumping all the energy INSIDE the target, a bullet that can easily penetrate soft armor, extremely light recoil, accuracy out to a couple hundred yards, and 31 round capacity. What's not to like? If you need it to be a little more compact one day, just swap out the barrels!

The 5.7x28 cartridge was designed to burn its powder inside the P90 barrel. The short FsN barrel wastes lots of energy in the flash. The blowback timing will be entirely different now too. You can't just start doing FPS by the inch guesses. The proof will be in the testing.

iFire · Post by **iFire** » 08 Jun 2011, 06:55

It will be fun to have an entirely new set of variables to play around with

srt-4_jon · Post by **srt-4_jon** » 07 Jul 2011, 00:26

Any updates?

Post by **panzermk2** » 07 Jul 2011, 06:09

We are testing.

ynoty3k · Post by **ynoty3k** » 07 Jul 2011, 07:17

Any hopes of a comp that appears to be an extension of the dust cover?

Mister Freeze · Post by **Mister Freeze** » 08 Jul 2011, 12:14

+ a rail extension!

Post by **blueorison** » 08 Jul 2011, 15:21

:facepalm:

PainKillaX · Post by **PainKillaX** » 08 Jul 2011, 16:35

FsN+M203! :laugh:

toyslr · Post by **toyslr** » 08 Jul 2011, 17:36

Very nice...Be happy to sign up as potential distributor!

Mister Freeze · Post by **Mister Freeze** » 08 Jul 2011, 18:17

blueorison wrote::facepalm:

I was thinking of fitting a longer light. Sheesh!

cannonfodder · Post by **cannonfodder** » 12 Aug 2011, 07:56

I apologize in advance for posting in kind of an aging/stale thread... but how goes the testing on this? I am also getting on the accurizing waitlist and if this could be accomplished in a one-shot deal (rimshot) that would be excellent...

Post by **panzermk2** » 12 Aug 2011, 09:43

We are testing them currently in FsNs.

MikeSantor · Post by **MikeSantor** » 12 Aug 2011, 10:57

Im not even waiting for shipping on these. As soon as they are available im driving my but up to BooFoo Illinois and picking one up!!!

TerryGecko · Post by **TerryGecko** » 14 Aug 2011, 13:40

Wow Elite, just wow. Thank you for making such amazing products for the FsN. I just got my Mini Slide Rail (which is perfect) and now I see this. I will be ordering this barrel as soon as it's available.

fate · Post by **fate** » 04 Oct 2011, 13:38

MikeSantor · Post by **MikeSantor** » 09 Nov 2011, 19:42

COUGHupdateCOUGH

Post by **panzermk2** » 09 Nov 2011, 20:32

Still testing the production prototype.

azoth · Post by **azoth** » 02 Jan 2012, 14:01

i was wondering what twist rate the threading of the barrel would be and also will these barrels be available in the stock length or only the extended length?

Post by **panzermk2** » 02 Jan 2012, 15:57

1-9 and what would be the point of a stock length?

Oldbindlestiff · Post by **Oldbindlestiff** » 02 Jan 2012, 19:33

Quote Panzermk2: "Our heavier rate reducer will help get better performance from the PS90 tube."

Testing? I want one!

Sorry for the thread detour.

azoth · Post by **azoth** » 03 Jan 2012, 08:10

sorry i worded my question poorly i meant to ask about the type of threading on the end of the barrel for adding a suppressor and also if it would be possible to get a stock length barrel with threading for a suppressor.
i hope that is clearer and thank you for the speedy responce.

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