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I just recently moved and also got a new puppy. The other night she was barking at 2:30am and I figured she had to go to the bathroom. I take her out and she ends up chasing 2 coyotes away! I guess she heard them from inside and wanted them gone, I don't know. So it got my thinking that I need a new pocket gun. I have a p3at and an lcp, but those are spoken for with other duties. I was thinking either a pf9, lc9 or maybe a p22? Not sure if the 22 would be the best round for the job? I know it would work, but not as effectively as the 9mm.
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I am now a huge fan of the XD-S, if you wanted to punch a big hole in the yotes. You could also try waiting for the 9mm version if that's your fancy.
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PF9.
I can't recommend many other pocket 9's, as they are either unsafe (too many safeties-Ruger) or overpriced (Kahr).
I can't recommend many other pocket 9's, as they are either unsafe (too many safeties-Ruger) or overpriced (Kahr).
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I really want an xds too, but figured for this purpose a 45 might be a bit much, too much over pen for an approx 45-50lb dog.
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penetration has more to do with ammo selection than caliber selection.
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True, but I'm pretty sure a light load of 45acp will still go right through it. I want an xds for my pocket, just maybe not coyotes lol.
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I remember the Gov. of Texas telling a story about dispatching a coyote with his Crimson Trace equipped LCP while jogging. So... apparently, they work.
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Sure, if you want to believe a politician... :p
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I know the lcp would work, it worked on a 125+lb dog a few years back. But that is on my gf's bike pouch, would hate to take it from there and not put it back and her be without it.
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If it were legal, I would carry my pf9 in the woods while walking my dog. Lots of coyotes around lately.
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what about a kahr cm40? anyone shoot one? hows the trigger?
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Hell a 22 at close range will drop a coyote just fine. Plenty of pocket 22s.
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That's what I was originally asking, if a 22lr would be a good choice. I like the p22, it's a fun little shooter. I'm not going hunting for these things, the longest distance would be ~6ft (length of leash).
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A 22lr is plenty.
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Why not a FSN? Flat trajectory and ease of follow up shots.
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something about the FsN and not fitting comfortably in my pocket of my basketball shorts...
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The p22 is a terrible gun.
Id rather a Beretta 21A
Id rather a Beretta 21A
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It is very fun. However, for a supposed "more accurate design" of a "fixed barrel", it is the most inaccurate .22LR I have shot, to date.fzr confused wrote:That's what I was originally asking, if a 22lr would be a good choice. I like the p22, it's a fun little shooter. I'm not going hunting for these things, the longest distance would be ~6ft (length of leash).
And it is released by a major mfg. Disappointing.
It is, however, one of the most fun .22LRs I have ever shot. I have shot many (the majority of .22LR platforms on the market).
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Coyotes don't have pockets!
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Well I will just have to find me a pf9 online and have it shipped to my dealer. He said it would be awhile before they got any in.
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The perfect handgun
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I have only shot the p22 a few times and ice enjoyed it, never had any firing problems. Are they reliable? That is the biggest need here for me. Accuracy I don't care all that much about since it will be very close range.
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Except the foregrip makes it an AOW :laugh:c1demo wrote:The perfect handgun
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Google p22 cracked slide. They are made of crap metal and not built to last.fzr confused wrote:I have only shot the p22 a few times and ice enjoyed it, never had any firing problems. Are they reliable? That is the biggest need here for me. Accuracy I don't care all that much about since it will be very close range.
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Well, on a serious note, you could look at the Charter Arms revolver in 9mm.
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well last night i went to gander and was looking around. i just about bought a north american arms 22mag, but ended up picking up the lc9. they had a pretty good deal on it, i got it and a box of ammo out the door for just under 400. i feel that is a fair price seeing as online was just about that much plus shipping and ffl transfer fees. i would have preferred the pf9, but i can pick that up later if i dont like this one.
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Glad you found a gun!fzr confused wrote:well last night i went to gander and was looking around. i just about bought a north american arms 22mag, but ended up picking up the lc9. they had a pretty good deal on it, i got it and a box of ammo out the door for just under 400. i feel that is a fair price seeing as online was just about that much plus shipping and ffl transfer fees. i would have preferred the pf9, but i can pick that up later if i dont like this one.
I've been asked the same question you asked on this forum, and now those askers are searching for PF9's in Texas.
I would have recommended the Ruger as a 2nd. But it has a manual safety.
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Yea, the safety will never (intentionally) be used.
The pf9 does look a lot nicer in a "it won't slip out of my hand" kinda way.
The pf9 does look a lot nicer in a "it won't slip out of my hand" kinda way.
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You went shooting with Vanilla Ice? I thought he had a "9."fzr confused wrote:I have only shot the p22 a few times and ice enjoyed it, never had any firing problems. Are they reliable? That is the biggest need here for me. Accuracy I don't care all that much about since it will be very close range.
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FWIW, I have had nothing but great experiences with P22. Feeds as much ammo as MkII does. No problems with wear. My sister has one, I own one, my dad has one.
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If you don't care at all about accuracy; I'd recommend the P22. It is not picky on ammo, the trigger is fun, as is shooting the gun, because the ergos are really awesome.fzr confused wrote:I have only shot the p22 a few times and ice enjoyed it, never had any firing problems. Are they reliable? That is the biggest need here for me. Accuracy I don't care all that much about since it will be very close range.
It loads just like a 9mm, and the only difference is the mag release, which isn't an issue.
If they came out with an aftermarket or factory fix to the accuracy, I'd get one in a heartbeat.
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Polymer witness compact in 10mm would take care of them. They don't cost much more then the 22lr listed.
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I have to agree with this statement. About 5,000 rounds through mine and not a single issue. Super fun to shoot and not too bad on the accuracy.flyingirish04 wrote:FWIW, I have had nothing but great experiences with P22. Feeds as much ammo as MkII does. No problems with wear. My sister has one, I own one, my dad has one.
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jay, while i LOVE my EAA and will gladly buy more, it did not fit this intention due to weight and size. i needed a small gun to fit in my pocket for late night "quick the dog is about to sh*t on the floor" moments. not ordinary carry where i can have it on my hip.
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The witness compact is small. I would not consider it a hip gun. I have carried mine as a back up. Also the CZ RAMI in 9mm/40S&W are what I would consider a pocket gun.
I am a big guy but I have very small hands and very short fingers. My RAMI drops into my front pocket no issues. Witness poly compact is not much larger.
I am a big guy but I have very small hands and very short fingers. My RAMI drops into my front pocket no issues. Witness poly compact is not much larger.
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The witness poly on the EAA site says it is 11oz heavier unloaded (almost double), an inch longer, and a half inch wider. I carry my warthog (24oz) in my pocket all the time, but when I am wearing a belt, not so much in basketball shorts, I like to keep my pants above my @$$ lol
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:agree: but if you can't find one... a sig 238 is a great pocket pistol... (I really want one of those 938's)srt-4_jon wrote:sig 938
The Ruger SR22 is also a sweet piece... I use it as my snake gun for when I go putting around the swamp. It's fun to paddle up to them sunning on a branch and pop them off with it. Unlike the Walther... it's not picky on ammo. It eats anything you feed it and it's a fairly cheap gun.
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Sig P938! Carry "cocked and locked". Pocket sized and I can actually hit a 6" circle at 10 yards with iron sights. For me, that is good shooting. Load up with Hornady "Critcal Defense" and the zombies ain't got a chance. Its not mine yet but I am saving my shekels.
My bud is retired green beret and normally will not talk about guns, shooting or Vietnam but the P938 is his carry gun. Funny, the gun store commandos talk your ear off.
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IMHO:
Ruger LCR .22 magnum with Crimson Trace.
Load it with .22 magnum hollow points.
CT laser is good for night shooting. Zero CT laser at 25 yards.
The .22 mag has a flat trajectory and can reach out far.
It can hurt 2-legged "coyotes" also because it has better penetration than .22 LR, if that's a concern.
Revolver with .22 mag is more reliable than semi-auto with .22 LR.
Practice shooting at moving objects. The coyotes will not stand still like a paper target.
Ruger LCR .22 magnum with Crimson Trace.
Load it with .22 magnum hollow points.
CT laser is good for night shooting. Zero CT laser at 25 yards.
The .22 mag has a flat trajectory and can reach out far.
It can hurt 2-legged "coyotes" also because it has better penetration than .22 LR, if that's a concern.
Revolver with .22 mag is more reliable than semi-auto with .22 LR.
Practice shooting at moving objects. The coyotes will not stand still like a paper target.
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I better chime in here since y'all are talking about killing my earthly brethren.Vortec MAX wrote:I remember the Gov. of Texas telling a story about dispatching a coyote with his Crimson Trace equipped LCP while jogging. So... apparently, they work.
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As Mike said, Governor Perry used a Ruger LCP in the "lowly" .380 ACP. I think you guys are over-thinking all this. All of the things mentioned here should do the trick on Coyote as long as it goes bang & hits what you are aiming at. Coyotes are relatively small, thin skinned animals. They are also not generally a threat, unless you have small children or puppies around (which OP did).
What worries me more are canines of the (semi) domestic variety. The large pit-bull or the aggressive German Shepard down the road constitute a much more serious threat than the lowly Coyote. A 100+lb monstrous Pitbull might deserve a more serious conversation about stopping power, caliber & weapon choice than the 35lb Coyote.
BTW nice CZ collection Jay! Especially the 40B, what neat piece of CZ & Colt history. Also that RAMI marked 03' must be one of the first ones around.
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Yeah you can yell "BOO!" and healthy coyotes will head the other way if solo. If in a pack or sick, another tactic will be necessary.
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Good point feral dog packs are a much bigger problem.
That 40b is a second production without Colt markings. Came with 2 sets of factory grips, CZ black rubber and those rosewood. Also came with a nice Don Hume belt slide. Looks heavy but the frame aluminum and is lightweight.
That 40b is a second production without Colt markings. Came with 2 sets of factory grips, CZ black rubber and those rosewood. Also came with a nice Don Hume belt slide. Looks heavy but the frame aluminum and is lightweight.
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