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Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 14:08
by Llagoud
erf.

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John Carter Headed For $200 Million Loss


For those of us who are fans — and always will be fans — of the marvelous Edgar Rice Burroughs series John Carter of Mars, the news that the film version will lose somewhere in the neighborhood of $200 million is depressing. The BBC critic Mark Kermode summed up the movie’s major problem:

"The storytelling is incomprehensible, the characterization is ludicrous, the story is two and a quarter hours long and it’s a boring, boring, boring two and a quarter hours long."

The film cost a staggering $250 million to make and another $100 million to promote. A Disney spokesman confirmed to the Daily Mail the bad news, saying, “In light of the theatrical performance of John Carter, we expect the film to generate an operating loss of approximately $200 million.”



Beyond the Hollywoodisms and other inside-industry explanations, there is the cultural chasm between the world in which John Carter was originally created by Burroughs and the less literate, less imaginative, more realistic world into which the film was released.

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 14:11
by panzermk2
Llagoud wrote:erf.

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John Carter Headed For $200 Million Loss


For those of us who are fans — and always will be fans — of the marvelous Edgar Rice Burroughs series John Carter of Mars, the news that the film version will lose somewhere in the neighborhood of $200 million is depressing. The BBC critic Mark Kermode summed up the movie’s major problem:

"The storytelling is incomprehensible, the characterization is ludicrous, the story is two and a quarter hours long and it’s a boring, boring, boring two and a quarter hours long."

The film cost a staggering $250 million to make and another $100 million to promote. A Disney spokesman confirmed to the Daily Mail the bad news, saying, “In light of the theatrical performance of John Carter, we expect the film to generate an operating loss of approximately $200 million.”



Beyond the Hollywoodisms and other inside-industry explanations, there is the cultural chasm between the world in which John Carter was originally created by Burroughs and the less literate, less imaginative, more realistic world into which the film was released.

So epic CGI can't replace good acting and a story? Who knew!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 14:15
by Llagoud
It got Disneyfied. :facepalm:

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 15:34
by MrSlippyFist
I heard it was a decent movie. Makes sense, since most people are farking stupid = twilight series makes big bucks and half-way decent movies dont get publicized or make any money.

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 03:43
by Llagoud
It said they spent $100 million on promotion. :skep:

I never heard it had been made by Disney until a couple weeks ago when Mo and I went to see Act of Valor and saw the preview.

Not sure where that $100m went, but it wasn't spent marketing to me. :laugh:

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 06:49
by toyslr
That Movie just LOOKED stupid from the trailers! Should have saved the 100 million in advertising and they would only be out 100...

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 07:23
by Llagoud
Well, some of us Edgar Rice Burroughs fans were hoping for more.
Since it was written around 1911 to stay true to the story left some tech holes.
There's been a discovery or two since then. :laugh:

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 05:14
by jgreenberg01
Ok, so this isn't a movie, but it is, without a doubt, THE most impressive continuous shot video I have ever seen. The choreography, time & effort is simply astounding!


Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 19:48
by panzermk2
Very cool!

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 06:16
by Cyberfly
Wow. That was really kewl.

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 15:58
by firestorm248
I am dying right now laughing. :lmao:

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 16:37
by Rapier1772
Caution, language NSFW at 0:35

Otherwise :laugh: Wouldn't pay to see it but if it comes to the university theater I'll go

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 18:42
by Esteves
I received a few Harkins tickets from a co-worker a long while back as a thank you for something or other.
It was a nice gesture, they even mailed them to me, since I don't work in the office (2+ hour drive to get there, and then 2+ more back.)
Funny thing is, we didn't have a Harkins down here until not too long ago, so they sat and collected dust.
Long story short, took the mini-me to see John Carter.
My expectations were low.
I had no cash investment in the entertainment.
My memory of the details of the story line has suffered in the last 30ish years.

I don't know if it was worth $250MM to produce, but it didn't suck rocks.

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 02 May 2012, 05:22
by jgreenberg01
I'm not sure if this has been posted already, and I feel like I've been living under a rock because I just heard about this today and it's being released in early June. This looks like it's Ridley Scott's Alien prequel, WOOHOO!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Prometheus (2012)
Action | Horror | Sci-Fi - 8 June 2012 (USA)

A team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race.





Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 02 May 2012, 05:33
by brianz
I am very much looking forward to Prometheus. Oh Ridley, you had me at Space Jockey.

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 06 May 2012, 12:23
by fooschnickens
Saw the Avengers opening night, GO SEE THAT MOVIE!! There's also a new Prometheus trailer in the previews. Looks like it's going to be AWESOME.

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 07 May 2012, 21:21
by Rapier1772
The Avengers circa 1978


:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 08 May 2012, 09:48
by flyingirish04
Wow, the seventies really did suck so very very very much.

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 08 May 2012, 11:15
by Llagoud
What sucked about the 70's was what was mainstream.
Let's not forget:



1. The Godfather - (1972, Francis Ford Coppola) (Marlon Brando, Al Pacino)
2. The Godfather part II - (1974, Francis Ford Coppola) (Al Pacino, Robert DeNiro)
3. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - (1975, Milos Forman) (Jack Nicholson, Louise Fletcher)
4. Apocalypse Now -(1979, Francis Ford Coppola) (Martin Sheen, Robert Duvall)
5. Chinatown - (1974, Roman Polanski) (Jack Nicholson, John Huston)
6. A Clockwork Orange - (1971, Stanley Kubrick) (Malcolm McDowell, Patrick MaGee)
7. Star Wars - (1977, George Lucas) (Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford)
8. Jaws - (1975, Steven Spielberg) (Roy Scheider, Richard Dreyfuss)
9. Taxi Driver - (1976, Martin Scorsese) (Robert DeNiro, Jodie Foster)
10. The Deer Hunter - (1978, Michael Cimino) (Robert DeNiro, Christopher Walken)
11. Annie Hall - (1977, Woody Allen) (Woody Allen, Diane Keaton)
12. Network - (1976, Sydney Lumet) (Peter Finch, William Holden)
13. Rocky - (1976, John G. Avildsen) (Sylvester Stallone, Carl Weathers)
14. Patton - (1970, Franklin J. Schaffner) (George C. Scott, Karl Malden)
15. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - (1977, Steven Spielberg) (Richard Dreyfuss, Teri Garr)
16. M*A*S*H - (1970, Robert Altman) (Elliot Gould, Donald Sutherland)
17. The Exorcist - (1973, William Friedkin) (Ellen Burstyn, Linda Blair)
18. American Graffiti - (1973, George Lucas) (Ron Howard, Richard Dreyfuss)
19. The French Connection - (1971, William Friedkin) (Gene Hackman, Roy Scheider)
20. Mean Streets - (1973, Martin Scorsese) (Harvey Keitel, Robert DeNiro)
21. Aguirre, the Wrath of God - (1972, Werner Herzog) (Klaus Kinski) (Cecilia Rivera)
22. Blazing Saddles - (1974, Mel Brooks) (Gene Wilder, Cleavon Little)
23. Last Tango in Paris - (1972, Bernardo Bertolucci) (Marlon Brando, Maria Schneider)
24. Monty Python and the Holy Grail - (1974, Terry Gilliam, Terry Jones) (G. Chapman, Eric Idle)
25. The Rocky Horror Picture Show - (1975, Jim Sharmon) (Tim Curry, Susan Sarandon)
26. Serpico - (1973, Sydney Lumet) (Al Pacino, Tony Roberts)
27. Young Frankenstein - (1974, Mel Brooks) (Gene Wilder, Peter Boyle)
28. Deliverance - (1972, John Boorman) (Burt Reynolds, Jon Voight)
29. Barry Lyndon - (1975, Stanley Kubrick) (Ryan O'Neal, Marisa Berenson)
30. National Lampoon's Animal House - (1978, John Landis) (John Belushi, Tim Matheson)
31. Alien - (1979, Ridley Scott) (Tom Skerritt, Sigouney Weaver)
32. The Sting - (1973, George Roy Hill) (Robert Redford, Paul Newman)
33. Dog Day Afternoon - (1975, Sydney Lumet) (Al Pacino, John Cazale)
34. Five Easy Pieces - (1970, Bob Rafelson) (Jack Nicholson, Karen Black)
35. The Conversation - (1974, Francis Ford Coppola) (Gene Hackman, John Cazale)
36. Halloween - (1978, John Carpenter) (Donald Pleasence, Jamie Lee Curtis)
37. The Last Picture Show - (1971, Peter Bogdanovich) (Timothy Buttons, Jeff Bridges)
38. Nashville - (1975, Robert Altman) (Henry Gibson, Barbara Baxley)
39. Saturday Night Fever - (1977, John Badham) (John Travolta, Karen Gorney)
40. McCabe and Mrs. Miller - (1971, Robert Altman) (Warren Beatty, Julie Christie)
41. All the President's Men - (1976, Alan J. Pakula) (Dustin Hoffman, Robert Redford)
42. Dirty Harry - (1971, Don Siegel) (Clint Eastwood, Harry Guardino)
43. Grease - (1978, Randal Kleiser) (John Travolta, Olivia Newton-John)
44. Manhattan - (1979, Woody Allen) (Woody Allen, Diane Keaton)
45. Scenes from a Marriage - (1973, Ingmar Bergman) (Liv Ullman, Bibi Andersson)
46. Badlands - (1973, Terrence Malick) (Martin Sheen, Sissy Spacek)
47. Coming Home - (1978, Hal Ashby) (Jon Voight, Jane Fonda)
48. Cries and Whispers - (1972, Ingmar Bergman) (Harriet Andersson, Kari Sylwan)
49. Carrie - (1976, Brian De Palma) (Sissy Spacek, Piper Laurie)
50. The Conformist - (1970, Bernardo Bertolucci) (Jean-Louis Trintignant, Dominique Sandra)
51. Day for Night - (1973, Francois Truffaut) (Jacqueline Bisset, Valentine Cortese)
52. Fiddler on the Roof - (1971, Norman Jewison) (Topol, Norma Crane)
53. Kramer vs. Kramer - (1979, Robert Benton) (Dustin Hoffman, Meryl Streep)
54. Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory - (1971, Mel Stuart) (Gene Wilder, Jack Albertson)
55. Being There - (1979, Hal Ashby) (Peter Sellers, Shirley MacLaine)
56. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre - (1974, Tobe Hooper) (Marilyn Burns, Allen Danziger)
57. Monty Python's Life of Brian - (1979, Terry Jones) (Graham Chapman, Eric Idle)
58. All That Jazz - (1979, Bob Fosse) (Roy Scheider, Jessica Lange)
59. Days of Heaven - (1978, Terrence Malick) (Richard Gere, Brooke Adams)
60. Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore - (1974, Martin Scorsese) (Ellen Burstyn, K. Kristofferson)
61. Bound for Glory - (1976, Hal Ashby) (David Carradine, Ronny Cox)
62. Bananas - (1971, Woody Allen) (Woody Allen, Louise Lasser)
63. Amarcord - (1973, Federico Fellini) (Bruno Zanin, Pupella Maggio)
64. The Hospital - (1971, Arthur Hiller) (George C. Scott, Diana Rigg)
65. Sleeper - (1973, Woody Allen) (Woody Allen, Diane Keaton)
66. The Last Wave - (1977, Peter Weir) (Richard Chamberlain, Olivia Hamnett)
67. Shampoo - (1975, Hal Ashby) (Warren Beatty, Goldie Hawn)
68. A Woman Under the Influence - (1974, John Cassavetes) (Gena Rowlands, Peter Falk)
69. The Last Detail - (1973, Hal Ashby) (Jack Nicholson, Otis Young)
70. Seven Beauties - (1976, Lina Wertmuller) (Giancarlo Giannini, Fernando Rey)
71. Macbeth - (1971, Roman Polanski) (Jon Finch, Martin Shaw)
72. Marathon Man - (1976, John Schlesinger) (Dustin Hoffman, Laurence Olivier)
73. The Man Who Fell to Earth - (1976, Nicolas Roeg) (David Bowie, Rip Torn)
74. The Man Who Would Be King - (1975, John Huston) (Sean Connery, Michael Caine)
75. The Sunshine Boys - (1975, Herbert Ross) (Walter Mathou, George Burns)
76. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie - (1972, L. Bunuel) (Fernando Rey, Delphine Seyrig)
77. Cabaret - (1972, Bob Fosse) (Liza Minnelli, Michael York)
78. Don't Look Now - (1973, Nicolas Roeg) (Julie Christie, Donald Sutherland)
79. A Touch of Class - (1973, Melvin Frank) (George Segal, Glenda Jackson)
80. The Towering Inferno - (1974, Irwin Allen) (Steve McQueen, Paul Newman)
81. Breaking Away - (1979, Peter Yates) (Dennis Christopher, Dennis Quaid)
82. The Garden of Finzi Continis - (1970, Vittorio De Sica) (Dominique Sandra, Lino Capolicchio)
83. Klute - (1971, Alan J. Pakula) (Donald Sutherland, Jane Fonda)
84. Sunday, Bloody Sunday - (1971, John Schlesinger) (Glenda Jackson, Peter Finch)
85. The Candidate - (1972, Michael Ritchie) (Robert Redford, Peter Boyle)
86. The Ruling Class - (1972, Peter Medak) (Peter O'Toole, Alastair Slim)
87. The Way We Were - (1973, Sydney Pollack) (Robert Redford, Barbara Streisand)
88. Sounder - (1972, Martin Ritt) (Cicely Tyson, Paul Winfield)
89. Julia - (1977, Fred Zinnemann) (Jane Fonda, Jason Robards)
90. The Poseidon Adventure - (1972, Ronald Neame) (Ernest Borgnine, Gene Hackman)
91. The Goodbye Girl - (1977, Herbert Ross) (Richard Dreyfuss, Marsha Mason)
92. Save the Tiger - (1973, John G. Avildsen) (Jack Lemmon, Laurie Heineman)
93. Lenny - (1974, Bob Fosse) (Dustin Hoffman, Valerie Perrine)
94. Heaven Can Wait - (1978, Warren Beatty) (Warren Beatty, Julie Christie)
95. Norma Rae - (1979, Martin Ritt) (Sally Field, Beau Bridges)
96. Superman - (1978, Richard Donner) (Christopher Reeve, Gene Hackman)
97. Midnight Express - (1978, Alan Parker) (Brad Davis, Randy Quaid)
98. Enter the Dragon - (1973, Robert Clouse) (Bruce Lee, John Saxon)
99. A Bridge Too Far - (1977, Richard Attenborough) (James Caan, Michael Caine)
100. Tommy - (1975, Ken Russell) (Oliver Reed, Roger Daltrey)


True, we didn't have antigravity discs like you young whippersnappers do nowadays.....why, if we wanted water we had to crush hydrogen and oxygen together with our bare [email protected] :lmao:

Hollywood is officially out of ideas now. All they have are better terchnology/effects.
The good story lines come from the independants.

I would strike about a dozen of those and replace them with my own favorites.....but that's an 85% impressive list.
What did the 00's produce?

Re: Epic Movie Thread

Posted: 08 May 2012, 11:24
by flyingirish04
Way better music, end of assault weapons ban, the purchase of my first handgun.... :p