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Is your weapon collection complete?

Post by ShockedNKansas » 29 Jul 2013, 15:47

I know many on here have limitless knowledge about various weapons and probably have a limitless wishlist. But my focus is more narrow and today I feel like I have just about everything I want.

FsN, PS90

Classic AK, tactical-looking Arsenal AK, Vepr 308 (with a nice pile of custom 20rd mags)

Really nice M44 Mosin Nagant

Ruger 10/22 takedown

9mm, 10mm, 7.62x25mm Tokarev handguns

3 Ar's (FDE, OD, and black) (PSA, Colt, Sig)

Savage 110 BA Lapua

Mossberg pistol shottie with that spooky-looking breaching muzzle.




DAMMIT, upon writing this I just realized another gun I MUST have one day.... the VEPR 12 Gauge..


Okay, I'm back to feeling unsatisfied.. :(
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Post by fd57 » 29 Jul 2013, 18:00

No wheel guns?

Missing out.

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Post by Fridge Raptor » 29 Jul 2013, 18:04

I've got a nice little collection. I told my old lady I was done adding to my collection but...
I've decided That I need a keltec KSG, a cheytac, PS90 and an AR10. After that I should be done.
The chey is more of a wish list item since I can't justify the price tag without buying the old lady a new car at the same time.

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Post by ShockedNKansas » 29 Jul 2013, 18:17

fd57 wrote:No wheel guns?

Missing out.

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Highly reliable, but for some reason I just have no desire to own them. My dad has a bunch of wheel guns. I always tell him to trade them in for something "cooler". I will say this, if you want a S&W 500, there is only one type of gun that can handle that round. I think if I were to buy a wheel gun, it would be for a S&W 500.

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Post by ShockedNKansas » 29 Jul 2013, 18:20

Oops, forgot to include my Yugo M57 Tokarev.

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Post by fd57 » 29 Jul 2013, 18:31

ShockedNKansas wrote: Highly reliable, but for some reason I just have no desire to own them. My dad has a bunch of wheel guns. I always tell him to trade them in for something "cooler". I will say this, if you want a S&W 500, there is only one type of gun that can handle that round. I think if I were to buy a wheel gun, it would be for a S&W 500.
Yes, reliable. And also equally important, easy to work on. And finally, won't fail to fire like many semi-automatics when pressed against something. :)

S&W 500? You'd be better off investing elsewhere. A monster truck is fun, but maybe once around town and here and there on the trails. But not an every day driver, date vehicle, market runner, etc. The S&W 500 is beyond overkill, and many will say it's no fun beyond a few rounds. Mainly the decibels, but also the recoil. And in the dark you may go blind.

The .454casull is much better round than the 500.

Here? The .41magnum is the king of the wheel guns.

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Post by ShockedNKansas » 29 Jul 2013, 18:43

If you notice by my past purchases, practicality is not a prerequisite for me buying a firearm. I am kind of weird. I prefer to buy things that are unusual. The kind of guy that would choose a FiveseveN as his carry piece is not a practical man. lol

I would buy a 500 because it is unusual, one of the biggest, baddest, etc. Your 41 mag is pretty cool because it is unusual (to me).

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Post by N4TAB-Tom » 29 Jul 2013, 19:48

Golly, Gee Whillikers, Mister, why would I list my stuff in a public venue?

JMO, Sir..

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Post by ShockedNKansas » 29 Jul 2013, 20:47

You have a point, a conspiracy-laden point, but one that I did take into consideration before I posted. If the black helicopter man wants to swoop in and take my guns, he is sure welcome to try.

Molon Labe and all that jazz. :)

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Post by flyingirish04 » 29 Jul 2013, 21:47

ShockedNKansas wrote:
fd57 wrote:No wheel guns?

Missing out.

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Highly reliable, but for some reason I just have no desire to own them. My dad has a bunch of wheel guns. I always tell him to trade them in for something "cooler". I will say this, if you want a S&W 500, there is only one type of gun that can handle that round. I think if I were to buy a wheel gun, it would be for a S&W 500.
There are several firearms out now that shoot 500SW. All of them can handle the round.

But I carry a 454 Alaskan for bear defense. It is small enough to care without issue and powerful enough to stop a large bruin charge. And though painful after twenty rounds or so, it is very shootable, particularly if you plink with 45LC.
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Post by ShockedNKansas » 30 Jul 2013, 09:27

flyingirish04 wrote:
There are several firearms out now that shoot 500SW. All of them can handle the round.

But I carry a 454 Alaskan for bear defense. It is small enough to care without issue and powerful enough to stop a large bruin charge. And though painful after twenty rounds or so, it is very shootable, particularly if you plink with 45LC.
I did not know that there are more guns shooting the 500.

One odd question: Do you think the development of the specific .454 and .460 caliber pistol round was influenced by the two american car manufacturer's big block engine displacements? You know, the 460 Ford and 454 Chevy. It seems hard to imagine that the designers choosing that exact caliber would coincidentally match the top "big blocks" of Ford and Chevy.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 30 Jul 2013, 13:15

I'm pretty sure Dick Casull was a MOPAR guy.


No, seriously, I have no idea.
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Post by fd57 » 30 Jul 2013, 13:22

ShockedNKansas wrote:If you notice by my past purchases, practicality is not a prerequisite for me buying a firearm. I am kind of weird. I prefer to buy things that are unusual. The kind of guy that would choose a FiveseveN as his carry piece is not a practical man. lol

I would buy a 500 because it is unusual, one of the biggest, baddest, etc. Your 41 mag is pretty cool because it is unusual (to me).
The .41magnum cartridge is an odd-ball, much like the 5.7x28mm cartridge. A real sleeper. Light loads like a .357 and heavy loads like a .44magnum all within the .41magnum's grasp. Many black bear guides (for hunting) carry firearms chambered in the .41magnum cartridge. Often described as .44magnum ballistics with .357 handling (recoil).

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Post by flyingirish04 » 30 Jul 2013, 13:41

41 Mag is a cool cartridge indeed.
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Post by ShockedNKansas » 30 Jul 2013, 15:46

fd57 wrote: The .41magnum cartridge is an odd-ball, much like the 5.7x28mm cartridge. A real sleeper. Light loads like a .357 and heavy loads like a .44magnum all within the .41magnum's grasp. Many black bear guides (for hunting) carry firearms chambered in the .41magnum cartridge. Often described as .44magnum ballistics with .357 handling (recoil).
I've heard that 10mm ammo loaded to its potential is very similar to .41 mag.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 30 Jul 2013, 16:06

ShockedNKansas wrote:
fd57 wrote: The .41magnum cartridge is an odd-ball, much like the 5.7x28mm cartridge. A real sleeper. Light loads like a .357 and heavy loads like a .44magnum all within the .41magnum's grasp. Many black bear guides (for hunting) carry firearms chambered in the .41magnum cartridge. Often described as .44magnum ballistics with .357 handling (recoil).
I've heard that 10mm ammo loaded to its potential is very similar to .41 mag.
Close but not quite. Close to run of mill 41, but 41 has much more potential. I love the 10mm though.

I would say a 10mm gets as close to 41 Mag as a 280 Ackley gets to 7mm Rem Mag. Pretty darn close, but the 7 Mag loaded heavy can out muscle it.
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Post by fd57 » 30 Jul 2013, 18:45

ShockedNKansas wrote:I've heard that 10mm ammo loaded to its potential is very similar to .41 mag.
I've heard that I'm 6'2", 210lbs, and blonde hair. ;) ha ha

So that is said in jest because that is a common source of discussion - 10mm and .41magnum. They are similar in as much as a 1971 LT-1 engine is very similar to a 1971 Boss 351 engine. IE, they're both engines, and similar in size, but ultimately the Boss 351 punches the LT-1 back into dolly land. :)

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Post by 500SWfan » 30 Jul 2013, 20:18

fd57 wrote: S&W 500? You'd be better off investing elsewhere. A monster truck is fun, but maybe once around town and here and there on the trails. But not an every day driver, date vehicle, market runner, etc. The S&W 500 is beyond overkill, and many will say it's no fun beyond a few rounds. Mainly the decibels, but also the recoil. And in the dark you may go blind.
Speak for yourself. :) I shoot a hundred rounds through one (or more) of my 500's every time I go shooting and love it. I don't shoot the Handi-Rifle (not pictured) without a shoulder pad, though. I did that once...uh...yeah...just once :facepalm:
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Post by flyingirish04 » 30 Jul 2013, 22:10

That ES is not fun to shoot. I speak from experience. The long bbls are fine. Still worthless as a backcountry carry gun for me. Way too big.

I will say the BC PC gun you have does shoot very well. Great HG hunter.
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Post by ShockedNKansas » 31 Jul 2013, 09:20

flyingirish04 wrote:That ES is not fun to shoot. I speak from experience. The long bbls are fine. Still worthless as a backcountry carry gun for me. Way too big.

I will say the BC PC gun you have does shoot very well. Great HG hunter.
To each his own. 500SWfan may just like pain. :) I will tell you this, I would like to see a video of the 500 snubbie going off at night. It would look like an explosion in your hand would it not?

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Post by ShockedNKansas » 31 Jul 2013, 12:13

I'll be honest with you, besides a weapon being somewhat unusual, one of my other big motivations in acquiring a piece, is when the government hints that I shouldn't own it. That's what really got me into collecting guns several years ago; my liberty feeling threatened.

If you look at my collection, just about every gun in it is kind of a big F. U. to the gun grabbing politicians.

VEPR .308 with 16in barrel and many 20rd mags...

Many AK's and AR's.

5.7 anything

Savage 110BA "sniper rifle" in .338LM

Tokarev "the other armor penetrating pistol"

pistol-grip shotgun - I actually bought this at the time rumors were circling around them being banned.

I think investing in weapons that have a higher likelihood of receiving legislative attention also offer more of a potential ROI if you decide to sell them in the future.

If you haven't added a "sniper rifle" chambered in scary calibers (.338, .408, 50bmg) to your collection, I would advise doing so sooner rather than later because I feel those platforms specifically are the single hardest thing to justify for self-defense than any other weapon. A couple Bloomberg commercials about their effective ranges and lethality would make a great head-liner to getting more weapons banned. A citizen can walk into a gun store and buy a .50BMG semi-auto and take it home (if he can carry it). That weapon has only one purpose in the hands of a civilian besides target practice at one of the few 1000yd ranges in the country - defense against tyranny. God forbid a crazy ever gets a hold of one of those and sits on a building somewhere. If it happens, the guns are gone. The NRA wasn't very convincing to the general public when they argued the necessity of 30 round mags to congress for home defense. Can you imagine them arguing the right for a citizen to own a .338 or .50 cal military-spec sniper rifle after some nut kills people with one?

I'm kind of rambling on here but I feel pretty strongly that rifles of this nature are not going to be available to the public for long. The writing is clearly on the wall. I am very surprised they haven't received more publicity.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 31 Jul 2013, 13:50

I actually agree with you. Here are my 2 biggest FU guns, first the rifle:

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And now for the handgun:

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When I carry this one around in my snake-skin leather holster, it just feels like the biggest FU ever! :D
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Post by ShockedNKansas » 31 Jul 2013, 13:54

Snake-skin is not tactical. Oh wait a min.. I guess it would be if you were hunting snakes. They would never see you coming ~

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Post by flyingirish04 » 01 Aug 2013, 13:08

If you are investing just because you think the feds are going to ban something...you are going to have a bad time. Unless of course you can already afford them. Then you will have a good time, it just won't be a good investment.

After the great failure this year, the gun grabbers really don't have a pot to piss in as far as getting any weapons banned. Mandatory background checks on private sales didn't even get through on procedure vote.

I'm not say to stop donating to politically viable civil rights groups like NRA or NAGR, or local groups. Keep that up, as they do show the f--ktards in DC how their bread is buttered. I'm just saying that I have to laugh at the many people right now trying to offload the AR or AK they put on their credit card and whining how they can't get what they paid for it. Particularly if they bought it during the scare.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 01 Aug 2013, 13:10

ShockedNKansas wrote:Snake-skin is not tactical. Oh wait a min.. I guess it would be if you were hunting snakes. They would never see you coming ~

I don't know. The new marsh design for Sitka sure looks tactical and snake like. Plus isn't that what snakes' skins are for, camoflauge?

Bet it breaths well too. GoreySnake-Tex. I like it. ;)
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Post by flyingirish04 » 01 Aug 2013, 13:11

jgreenberg01 wrote:I actually agree with you. Here are my 2 biggest FU guns, first the rifle:

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And now for the handgun:

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When I carry this one around in my snake-skin leather holster, it just feels like the biggest FU ever! :D


Hey, look, two tone pistol :p
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Post by Smithy » 02 Aug 2013, 06:09

I believe that guns are tools and you should have what you NEED. Self protection is one thing, subsistence hunting is another. Make sure you have the right tool for the job. If money is no object, buy what you want.

As far as posting your guns on the internet just to show them off equates to penis envy. I own no guns.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 02 Aug 2013, 06:25

flyingirish04 wrote:Hey, look, two tone pistol :p
Racist! :p
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Post by ShockedNKansas » 02 Aug 2013, 09:47

flyingirish04 wrote:If you are investing just because you think the feds are going to ban something...you are going to have a bad time. Unless of course you can already afford them. Then you will have a good time, it just won't be a good investment.

After the great failure this year, the gun grabbers really don't have a pot to piss in as far as getting any weapons banned. Mandatory background checks on private sales didn't even get through on procedure vote.

I'm not say to stop donating to politically viable civil rights groups like NRA or NAGR, or local groups. Keep that up, as they do show the f--ktards in DC how their bread is buttered. I'm just saying that I have to laugh at the many people right now trying to offload the AR or AK they put on their credit card and whining how they can't get what they paid for it. Particularly if they bought it during the scare.

Speculating in any sector is best left to the professionals.
While gun collecting would not be considered a traditional investment, I think it is a very smart hobby to have. The value of a gun collection oftentimes increases over the years, or at worst, stays the same.

Whether or not the government is able to ban certain types of weapons in the future remains to be seen, but my money is on the fact that they will eventually start banning weapons. It's just the normal progression of a socialist government.

I'm not going to go into detail regarding what my "gun investing" returned during this last panic, but let me say this; my collection over the last 7 months has grown by several multiples thanks to Obama and his buddies and all those who arrived late to the party.

Oh, and one more thing... SnK NEVER pays more than FMV on anything. :)

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Post by ShockedNKansas » 02 Aug 2013, 09:53

Smithy wrote:I believe that guns are tools and you should have what you NEED. Self protection is one thing, subsistence hunting is another. Make sure you have the right tool for the job. If money is no object, buy what you want.

As far as posting your guns on the internet just to show them off equates to penis envy. I own no guns.
I think guns are tools, entertainment options, and pretty things that are fun to look at and show off.

How do you know what you NEED until you've identified the threat? Traditional zombies, hybrid zombies, zombie bears, liberal zombies... I say just keep buying guns until you are satisfied and make exceptions for the really good deals that come along.

We are moving into another great period to be buying guns. Lots of excess inventory.

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Post by PainKillaX » 02 Aug 2013, 11:06

Smithy wrote:As far as posting your guns on the internet just to show them off equates to penis envy.
That's why I carry and XD-S. I don't carry a barrel longer than me. :p

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Post by fd57 » 02 Sep 2013, 09:55

Excellent wrist strengthening ...

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Post by flyingirish04 » 02 Sep 2013, 19:20

PainKillaX wrote:
Smithy wrote:As far as posting your guns on the internet just to show them off equates to penis envy.
That's why I carry and XD-S. I don't carry a barrel longer than me. :p

Ha. Nice. :laugh: :thumb:
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