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Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 14:13
by joeshoe
i have a 650 and a 5.7 and lots of empty brass i`m very interested ! :ponder:

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 11 Mar 2011, 11:37
by kat_girl
Dillion 650? You bet I'm interested! I hope someone starts marketing brass too :D
Best regards to all you you FN fans!

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 11 Mar 2011, 14:05
by retrodog
Well I'm glad someone is doing this, cause Dillon has no interest in supporting it... still.

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 09:30
by locutus
I hate to play devil's advocate here, but I think a few observations are in order.

I currently load on an upgraded Dillon 450. Same as a 550, except it requires die changes since there is no removeable tool head. I had a 650 for 15 years, and loved. But when the arthritis and diabetic neuropathy caused me to cut back my shooting by 2/3 or more, I gave the 650 to my son.

I've loaded many thousands of rounds on a 1050 years ago when I was a partner in a small commercial reloading business.

I guess what I'm saying is that I have a considerable amount of experience with Dillon products, for over 25 years.

If Dillon hasn't worked out the problems yet, I'll take their word for it. They don't recommend using Dillons for the .25 ACP either. (I load quite a few of them, on my Redding)

If some of the folks here have worked out the problems for the 550, I'll probably be very interested in the not too distant future. But for now, I'm going to go along with Mike Dillon and do my 5.7 loading on the Redding.

Give it a couple of years, though, and somebody, somewhere, will work it out! :thumb:

Again, I'm not trying to be the wet blanket at the party, just counseling patience. Give it a little time, and something will happen. Who knows? Dillon might come up with a "mini" 1050 for loading .25 ACP, .30 carbine, 5.7 FN, 4.6 HK, etc,etc,

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 10:55
by panzermk2
We have sold 100"s of 550 shell plates over the years and have had no issues except one time and I think it was the press.

Normally Dillon, like RCBS sends people to us for our plate since Dillon wants to sell you a press not just a plate.

We prototyped, tested and created a 650 plate. It worked fine. Orders fell to short to offset the cost to make them since a run of 500 is very small for a CNC shop and would have made them extremely expensive to make. This is not even including the costs of creating it. We had to buy a 650 just to make a plate. Plus time and materials.

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 18:05
by locutus
You're definitely on the right track.
1. Make it work
2.Make it work well
3. Make it economical to manufacture. :thumb:

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 10 Apr 2011, 16:23
by Roughedge
What power die would you use? I would think the 22 hornet would work well but if you buy the powder funnel seperate would you get the "A"-22 cal ?

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 19 May 2012, 10:30
by Dbl_Tap
I know this thread is over a year old and Elite is not making a 650 plate any longer but has anyone come through on one for this machine?

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 25 May 2012, 18:10
by BTH
I'm interested.

Thanks,

BTH

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 06:08
by Zzaro
Would be interested, have a Dillion 650

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 19:25
by Invidia_Absit
Hello...

I am new round' these parts. I found you guys looking for a Dillon 650 conversion kit for five seven. Did this conversion kit ever get off the ground? If so, I sure would lke to get my grubby paws on one...

Thanks in advance...
IA

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 21:15
by Rapier1772
The project was shelved due to cost - it just wasn't worth developing at the time.

I doubt anything has changed but I'd wait for panzer to weigh in to make certain.

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 21:28
by Invidia_Absit
Thanks...

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 07:17
by panzermk2wife
panzermk2 wrote:We have sold 100"s of 550 shell plates over the years and have had no issues except one time and I think it was the press.

Normally Dillon, like RCBS sends people to us for our plate since Dillon wants to sell you a press not just a plate.

We prototyped, tested and created a 650 plate. It worked fine. Orders fell to short to offset the cost to make them since a run of 500 is very small for a CNC shop and would have made them extremely expensive to make. This is not even including the costs of creating it. We had to buy a 650 just to make a plate. Plus time and materials.
We had them up for Pre-sale for 2 weeks because they are expensive to make and not one person placed an order. So we have shelved this project and probably will not attempt it again.

It's not as easy as it sounds and it's a very expensive project :(

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 10:53
by Invidia_Absit
That's too bad about the 650 5.7 plate. I would have bought one if I had been in on the original offering. Thanks for the update...

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 11:03
by Invidia_Absit
Here's a question for you... How many pre-orders would motivate you to put it back on the table?

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 16:27
by Jim300
I have a 650 and would definitely buy one. I purchased a 550 plate and don't even own a 550. I guess if I have to buy a 550 later to go progressive so be it, but I would really rather have a 650 plate.

I do understand supply and demand. I don't expect someone to build something if there is not enough market to cover the costs. Maybe as time changes the caliber will be more popular and it will be worth the time and money to make the 650 plate.

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 02 May 2013, 08:52
by Colt45ce
New to forum but have reloaded for years and about 3 on the Dillon 650. Perhaps the current climate would motivate members and non-members to buy a shell plate. I don't know if the shell plate alone is enough because there would also need to be the powder drop attachment and the piece that moves the case onto the shell plate...unless the ones from the 223 conversion kit or some combination would work. I would imagine there are tons of people out there with the 650 who would benefit...could be win, win.

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 08 Nov 2016, 01:38
by PW-LLC
I'm ready to buy one of your caliber conversion kits for my Dillon 650. Please send me the current status.
Thank you

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 14:57
by towerofpower93
I'll throw my hat in the ring for a shellplate as well.

Just got a 650 and would rather not keep the 550B around just to resize and prime 5.7 brass.

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 14:22
by GONRA
GONRA's experience is that you're best served to "resize 5.7 brass"
on a large robust single stage press to get consistant headspace.

Fired 5.7 cases can/will hava a "body bulge" that is really different
from the usual reloading we all are used to.

RCBS SMALL BASE dies verk great for me.

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 20:54
by AZ SEAN
I have been working on a complete 650 conversion for over 6 months now. It needs more testing but I have successfully sized and trimmed several hundred cases. I will have a kit or two available soon for someone to test. This project has cost me countless hours and thousands of dollars but I think its progressing well.

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 13 Mar 2018, 16:15
by AZ SEAN
Complete kits with or without the ability to trim are ready to ship.

Also parts to trim 7.62X25, 22TCM, 357SIG, or 5.7X28 on the XL650.

Re: Dillon 650 reloading

Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 19:22
by AZ SEAN
This is a short video of the conversion. - https://youtu.be/8TW7pc3cHng