34gr Varmint Nightmare

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34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by Hobknob » 02 Dec 2008, 16:10

I found these the other day and hadn't seen any other mention of them so I though I would pass the info along.

34gr Varmint Nightmare Extreme HP flat base.
They run $35 for 500, so they are hard to beat on the price.
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/i ... search=yes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Anybody have experience with these?

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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by MrSlippyFist » 02 Dec 2008, 16:19

Not a bad price, but I hate FB bullets. Such a PITA.
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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by Hobknob » 25 Dec 2008, 15:05

Well, I finally loaded up a bunch of these and took them to the range. I loaded them up with HS-6 and Trueblue. The flat bases didn't give me any trouble loading.
I think the lower end TrueBlue will make a really nice practice round since it is relatively light and inexpensive.

Trim Length: 1.129
OAL: 1.490
Primer: Wolf SPP and SPMP (magnum primer averaged 30-70fps faster across the range)
Temp: 60F
Elevation: 250ft

TrueBlue
5.7gr - 1800
5.8gr - 1895
5.9gr - 1950
6.0gr - 1960
6.1gr - 2000
6.2gr - 2045
6.3gr - 2066
6.4gr - 2070 pretty stiff recoil, primers just starting to flow into the firing pin hole (similar to the righthand primer here on the wiki: wiki/Image:3cases-normal2.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

HS-6
5.6gr - 1605
5.8gr - 1765
6.0gr - 1925
6.2gr - 1965 Noticibly more muzzle flash and concussion than factory rounds. Primers flowing into firing pin hole (more excessive than the rightmost primer in the picture referenced above)

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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by Grantness » 25 Dec 2008, 15:13

Nice job :thumb: You gonna push it higher w/ the TB next time? I wonder how the SPMP's would compare to SRP's in terms of FPS and pressure. :ponder:

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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by Hobknob » 25 Dec 2008, 16:59

I would think SRP's might be a little hotter than the SPMP's. They are generally stiffer, so I think they will be better suited for hotter rounds with less deformation (which I plan to load up).

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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by jmz5 » 25 Dec 2008, 19:07

Damn Hobnob, you were a busy boy!
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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by Grantness » 25 Dec 2008, 20:55

yea, keep up the good work man...

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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by Hobknob » 25 Dec 2008, 21:42

The benefit of having Christmas at the in-laws is that I actually get a bit of free time for some fun :D

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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by baldpaul » 10 Apr 2010, 16:51

The velocity listed for the VNE and True Blue are those out of a AR57 or what?
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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by Hobknob » 10 Apr 2010, 18:08

Data is from the FsN.
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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by f3rr37 » 10 Apr 2010, 18:23

Assume that any data posted was developed for the FiveseveN pistol, unless otherwise stated.

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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by baldpaul » 12 Apr 2010, 13:15

Ok thank you guys very much. this site has been very useful. I have loaded up these same bullets with the 6.4gr of true Blue and they work great in my 11.5 inch AR57 pistol, I have just been waiting for a chance to get out to the out door range to do some chrony testing.

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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by blueorison » 12 Apr 2010, 14:54

baldpaul wrote:Ok thank you guys very much. this site has been very useful. I have loaded up these same bullets with the 6.4gr of true Blue and they work great in my 11.5 inch AR57 pistol, I have just been waiting for a chance to get out to the out door range to do some chrony testing.

Paul
Isn't it just plum that there are forum's like these that actually have legitimate users with real data and empirical evidence instead of a bunch of 12 yr old armchair commandos?

I sure hope we keep it that way. Look forward to seeing your range report and... wait for it...

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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by panzermk2 » 12 Apr 2010, 18:41

blueorison wrote:
baldpaul wrote:Ok thank you guys very much. this site has been very useful. I have loaded up these same bullets with the 6.4gr of true Blue and they work great in my 11.5 inch AR57 pistol, I have just been waiting for a chance to get out to the out door range to do some chrony testing.

Paul
Isn't it just plum that there are forum's like these that actually have legitimate users with real data and empirical evidence instead of a bunch of 12 yr old armchair commandos?
OH we have one but He is a little older then 12 and in college.
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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by tparty » 12 Apr 2010, 18:57

Interesting comment...my 11 year old helped me load some 35gr Vmax (with TB) about 10 days ago. We were in FL on vacation last week and did some "capability studies" at a local range:

Charge (TB)............5-shot group spread (15 yards)
5.3gr------------1.0 in
5.5gr------------1.5 in
5.7gr------------2.0 in
5.9gr------------1.7 in

WX: 68F; winds 10 - 20mph

He's pretty handy with the caliper and the Forster case trimmer--he's into it big time...

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Re: 34gr Varmint Nightmare

Post by blueorison » 12 Apr 2010, 23:07

panzermk2 wrote:
blueorison wrote:
baldpaul wrote:Ok thank you guys very much. this site has been very useful. I have loaded up these same bullets with the 6.4gr of true Blue and they work great in my 11.5 inch AR57 pistol, I have just been waiting for a chance to get out to the out door range to do some chrony testing.

Paul
Isn't it just plum that there are forum's like these that actually have legitimate users with real data and empirical evidence instead of a bunch of 12 yr old armchair commandos?
OH we have one but He is a little older then 12 and in college.
...

Now, what EXACTLY are you trying to say, Jay....
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