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American Eagle 40gr 5.7x28mm FMJ :)

Post by Buffman » 07 Jul 2012, 19:48



This is still FNH brass (headstamp 2012).

PS90 tests coming soon. It seems to get almost as good as SS197SR velocities from the PS90.

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Post by Grantness » 07 Jul 2012, 20:25

Anyone know what kind of bullet that is? Is it available as a component or only as part of this cartridge? what kind of prices are we talking about? It looks a lot like a FB Matchking or Gameking...but its not a hollow point.

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Post by Esteves » 07 Jul 2012, 20:27

Shades of SS196 all over again. Five percent less velocity and 10 percent less energy than SS197
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Post by Grantness » 07 Jul 2012, 20:30

It would have to be cheap and widely available to make it worthwhile if only for plinking... That or if I can't find that particular bullet anywhere for reloading.

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Post by spayne3 » 07 Jul 2012, 20:39

Thanks for the video.

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Post by Buffman » 07 Jul 2012, 20:59

Esteves wrote:Shades of SS196 all over again. Five percent less velocity and 10 percent less energy than SS197

SS196 is still almost 100 fps slower than this.

I overpaid for it, but considering SS197SR is like $25/box right now, $24.xx/box for this will do as plinking ammo. I'd really like to see this hit the projected $18.99/box or less, and find it at WM or something in the future.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 07 Jul 2012, 23:35

Thanks for the info Buffman. I've never chrono'ed anything out my PS90, I should check into that, now I'm curious.

Did you get a chance to check accuracy? (Don't need vid just what you think)
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Post by blacklabelop » 08 Jul 2012, 03:45

I could care less if it is underpowered... daddy needs some plinking rounds!

thx for the info.

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Post by blaster1 » 08 Jul 2012, 04:52

Thanks for the report. It looks to be just a hair shy of the SS197SR round velocity but probably not enough to make a difference.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 08 Jul 2012, 05:24

blaster1 wrote:Thanks for the report. It looks to be just a hair shy of the SS197SR round velocity but probably not enough to make a difference.
I choron'd SS197 at an average of 1709fps which is 80fps or about 5% faster.

I should make a big difference if you are talking about SD/HD, especially because of the bullet itself. FMJ's are much more likely to over-penetrate as compared to the VMAX bullet. It seems to me that the American Eagle flavor is best suited for plinking while the SS197 can make a reasonable SD/HD round.

Full disclosure: I only use SS197 for plinking. I only use EA's loads for carry/SD/HD, specifically the S4M.




EDIT: Thanks Buffman for the video. Any plans to shoot clay, meat, etc. to see what the round does?
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Post by Esteves » 08 Jul 2012, 07:37

Buffman wrote:SS196 is still almost 100 fps slower than this.

I overpaid for it, but considering SS197SR is like $25/box right now, $24.xx/box for this will do as plinking ammo. I'd really like to see this hit the projected $18.99/box or less, and find it at WM or something in the future.
It would be nice to have a COTS plinking round available. My other comment was really just pointing out the obvious: that it's a move backwards from a performance point of view.

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jgreenberg01 wrote:
blaster1 wrote:Thanks for the report. It looks to be just a hair shy of the SS197SR round velocity but probably not enough to make a difference.
I choron'd SS197 at an average of 1709fps which is 80fps or about 5% faster.

I should make a big difference if you are talking about SD/HD, especially because of the bullet itself. FMJ's are much more likely to over-penetrate as compared to the VMAX bullet. It seems to me that the American Eagle flavor is best suited for plinking while the SS197 can make a reasonable SD/HD round.

Full disclosure: I only use SS197 for plinking. I only use EA's loads for carry/SD/HD, specifically the S4M.




EDIT: Thanks Buffman for the video. Any plans to shoot clay, meat, etc. to see what the round does?
I chronon'd SS197SR at an avg of 1662fps from the FsN and 2047fps from the PS90 so didn't see the difference as significant compared to your data.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 08 Jul 2012, 08:42

SS197 performance can vary greatly from lot to lot (and even in some cases rounds from within the same box!). On average I get 1700fps+.
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Post by Buffman » 08 Jul 2012, 08:58

I've chrono'd SS197SR as low as 1686 average in 35F weather. I've noticed that with the 5.7 rounds I've fired, they seem very temperature stable. I've shot SS198LF at 2111 fps in 35F weather, and when retesting yesterday, in 97F weather, they were no faster.

SS197SR as mentioned is lot dependent. Fast I've gotten SS197SR to average is 1728 fps.

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Rapier1772 wrote:Thanks for the info Buffman. I've never chrono'ed anything out my PS90, I should check into that, now I'm curious.

Did you get a chance to check accuracy? (Don't need vid just what you think)
Didn't really check accuracy, but I was getting my typical on par results. I'll have to go back out with a target :)

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Post by Mister Freeze » 08 Jul 2012, 15:31

That's a TMJ!
Was it intact enough to reload?
Where did you get the AE's?

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Post by panzermk2 » 08 Jul 2012, 15:45

I would like to know who is making that bullet.
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Post by Esteves » 08 Jul 2012, 16:03

I'd take a WAG and bet on Speer.
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Post by panzermk2 » 08 Jul 2012, 16:13

Esteves wrote:I'd take a WAG and bet on Speer.

I would have to see a pulled bullet in person to compare it. It would be nice if they started selling it. I have wanted a lighter FMJ for a long time.
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