What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by ChiefJohn » 01 Sep 2011, 03:34

My FiveSeven and soon to be acquired http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/previ ... otgun-ksg/ gauge -- dual tubes with 7 rounds (2 3/4") in each, mixed loads, with the ability to switch chambers. "The simple and reliable pump action feeds from either the left or right tube. The feed side is manually selected by a lever located behind the trigger guard." :evil:

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Post by Rapier1772 » 01 Sep 2011, 05:50

Chief, you're not the only one waiting for that thing. We've already got a thread started on it too :D
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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by Valorius » 01 Sep 2011, 17:03

My new anti-zombie setup:

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*US Armor Class IIIA vest with dual frontal Class IV ceramic trauma plates.
*Mar-om Dolphin "tactical" vest with integrated backpack and hydration system. It also has holsters and pouches sufficient to carry all of my weapons and magazines.

*FN Five SeveN USG with Viridian C5L, Tritium night sights and 15x magazines- 14x20 rd, 1x30 rd. (311 total rds)
*HK P7 with Laserlyte QD-U V3 rail mounted pulse laser, Trijicon night sights, and 3x magazines (25 total rds)
*Ruger LCP with Crimson Trace laserguard and 3x 7rd +1 magazines (22 total rds)
*Cold Steel Kukri Machete
*US M7 Bayonet
*Surefire 6PX 170lumen light with skull crusher

Total weight for the entire package including weapons, armor and 358rds of ammunition is 33.2 lbs.
(The same exact setup, but substituting the Five SeveN pistol and ammo with my now sold 16" AR and 5.56mm ammo weighed in at a whooping 53.6lbs)

I'll be buying a pistol lower short barreled AR-57 pretty soon too.
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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by Thedirtyheat » 01 Sep 2011, 17:26

As per zombies [SHTF] going to have to go with fnp 9mm and a custom ar for 7.62x39. The biggest reason why for me it wouldnt be my fiveseven or a ps90 is because even though I prefer my five seven and love it I'm looking to be in it for the long haul and you can find 9mm and 7.62x39 NATO everywhere in the world in abundance. (oh and the ar would be left handed because even with a brass deflector I get tired of burn marks on my arm)

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 01 Sep 2011, 17:56

I just wish they'd come out with conversion kit for the SCAR-17... one where you could go instantly from 7.62x51 to Commie-bastard 7.62x39, and then drop in a barrel/bolt for 5.56x45. Having those three calibers interchanabgle by barrel, bolt, and magazine would be the ultimate SHTF rifle.

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Post by Thedirtyheat » 01 Sep 2011, 18:06

I agree along with barrel length options like the acr offers (although I'm not sure you can convert it to 7.62) I have shot both I was unimpressed with the acr might have been a lemon but it was new and already having feed issues. Let's just say a scar 17 is next on my list of guns to buy.

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by srt-4_jon » 01 Sep 2011, 18:16

SeaHawkDriver-B wrote:I just wish they'd come out with conversion kit for the SCAR-17... one where you could go instantly from 7.62x51 to Commie-bastard 7.62x39, and then drop in a barrel/bolt for 5.56x45. Having those three calibers interchanabgle by barrel, bolt, and magazine would be the ultimate SHTF rifle.
You would also need a barrel to swap 7.62x51 to 7.62x39.

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Post by Valorius » 01 Sep 2011, 18:57

Thedirtyheat wrote:As per zombies [SHTF] going to have to go with fnp 9mm and a custom ar for 7.62x39. The biggest reason why for me it wouldnt be my fiveseven or a ps90 is because even though I prefer my five seven and love it I'm looking to be in it for the long haul and you can find 9mm and 7.62x39 NATO everywhere in the world in abundance. (oh and the ar would be left handed because even with a brass deflector I get tired of burn marks on my arm)
I have 2000rds of 5.7mm (and will probably be buying at least another 1000rds of top end Elite ammo for my SHTF stockpile). There is no way in hell i'm ever going to burn through 2000-3000rds of ammo in any scenario, even an alien invasion.

If i find 5.56mm ammo, odds are, i've just found an AR too. Same for 9mm.

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by 2ndAMVa » 01 Sep 2011, 21:44

[quote="Valorius"]Here's my zombie gear:

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*US Armor Class IIIA vest with dual frontal Class IV ceramic trauma plates.
*Mar-om Dolphin "tactical" vest with integrated backpack and hydration system. It also has holsters and pouches sufficient to carry all of my weapons and magazines.

*FN Five SeveN USG with Viridian C5L, Tritium night sights and 15x magazines- 14x20 rd, 1x30 rd.
*HK P7 with Laserlyte QD-U V3 rail mounted pulse laser, Trijicon night sights, and 3x magazines
*Ruger LCP with Crimson Trace laserguard and 3x 7rd +1 magazines
*Cold Steel Kukri Machete
*US M7 Bayonet...

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I like your total KIT, Valorius! I'd like to know more about the machete that you picked. Looks goods. Can you provoke info on the machete?
Thanks!

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Post by Valorius » 01 Sep 2011, 21:58

Thanks!

Here's the info on the Cold Steel Kukri machete:

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Cold Steel 97MKM Magnum Kukri Machete

Blade Length: 17"
Overall Length: 22"
Steel: 1055 Carbon Steel w/ Black Baked on Anti Rust Matte Finish
Weight: 18.2 oz
Blade Thickness: 2 mm
Handle: 5" Long Polypropylene
Sheath: Cordura
Suggested Retail Price: $30.99

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by Thedirtyheat » 02 Sep 2011, 03:42

No way you would burn through more then 3k ammo haven't you checked outthe world population lately, zombie attack could have you more busy then you would think just saying. Although its true minus the impossible zombie attack it's hard to imagine burning through more then 3k ammo haha

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by ChiefJohn » 02 Sep 2011, 04:41

The Kel-Tec KSB, loaded with "D Dupleks" http://www.ddupleks.lv/EN/articles/show/products would definitely get the bad guys attention!! :thumb: DDupleks makes some very nasty stuff for close range personal defense.

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by Thedirtyheat » 02 Sep 2011, 04:56

Wow yea they do Although the nastiest close range weapon in my personal opinion of course is a 203 buckshot round.... Get a hold of a 203 and mount one of those on your rifle loaded with buckshot 203 just look up a video of it, there are few weapons I have enjoyed using more.

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by WolfRulz » 02 Oct 2011, 10:08

I have a special Bug Out Pack I'm putting the finishing touches on - with among all the other necessary SHTF items – a Five-seveN pistol, an AR57 12” SBR with plenty of mags and ammo.
I have a 223, .45, 12 gauge some 22LR pistols and rifles but I went with this combo because of the research I did and the capabilities of the ammo (in various rounds) and it’s light weight and small size. Well that’s my 2 cents. FWIW.
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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by FNForever » 02 Oct 2011, 10:44

Smith and Wesson M&P45/ Springfield Armory Socom 16. Depending on how I like the FsN, it will replace the M&P45 as my go to handgun.

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by flyingirish04 » 02 Oct 2011, 12:04

srt-4_jon wrote:
SeaHawkDriver-B wrote:I just wish they'd come out with conversion kit for the SCAR-17... one where you could go instantly from 7.62x51 to Commie-bastard 7.62x39, and then drop in a barrel/bolt for 5.56x45. Having those three calibers interchanabgle by barrel, bolt, and magazine would be the ultimate SHTF rifle.
You would also need a barrel to swap 7.62x51 to 7.62x39.

Yep, you would.
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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by Deployment Solutions » 13 Oct 2011, 11:08

FnH 5.7 pistol and AR 5.7 or PS90. I can carry LOTS of ammo in 50 rd mags.

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 13 Oct 2011, 15:28

Deployment Solutions wrote:FnH 5.7 pistol and AR 5.7 or PS90. I can carry LOTS of ammo in 50 rd mags.
And when you eventually ran out of ammo, you could use your PS90 as a walking stick. Its hard to find 5.7x28 even when things are "normal".

I'd say start with the things that don't require reloading or are re-usable... compound bow/cross bow/machette; then work towards things which are readily available and common. .22lr/9mm/.45acp/5.56/.38spl/12ga

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by Wollychop » 13 Oct 2011, 15:34

SeaHawkDriver-B wrote:
Deployment Solutions wrote:FnH 5.7 pistol and AR 5.7 or PS90. I can carry LOTS of ammo in 50 rd mags.
And when you eventually ran out of ammo, you could use your PS90 as a walking stick. Its hard to find 5.7x28 even when things are "normal".

I'd say start with the things that don't require reloading or are re-usable... compound bow/cross bow/machette; then work towards things which are readily available and common. .22lr/9mm/.45acp/5.56/.38spl/12ga
Or my .75 cal / 11 gauge flintlock. Even if you run out of shot or balls, you can just load it with gravel or nails :laugh:

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 13 Oct 2011, 15:41

2ndAMVa wrote:
Valorius wrote:Here's my zombie gear:


*US Armor Class IIIA vest with dual frontal Class IV ceramic trauma plates.
*Mar-om Dolphin "tactical" vest with integrated backpack and hydration system. It also has holsters and pouches sufficient to carry all of my weapons and magazines.

*FN Five SeveN USG with Viridian C5L, Tritium night sights and 15x magazines- 14x20 rd, 1x30 rd.
*HK P7 with Laserlyte QD-U V3 rail mounted pulse laser, Trijicon night sights, and 3x magazines
*Ruger LCP with Crimson Trace laserguard and 3x 7rd +1 magazines
*Cold Steel Kukri Machete
*US M7 Bayonet...

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:p This thread is just for fun, so don't take anything too critically... but...

When you show up for SHTF looking like you just walked off the cover of Call-of-Duty Magazine, do you think you wont' stick out like a Sore thumb? I guarantee you woulnd't make it past the first police or military checkpoint. And anyone seeing you marching on their land is going to perceive you as a threat- thats every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a .30-06 deer rifle will take pop shots at you thinking you're coming to either kill them or steal their stuff. SHTF is not combat. I could see the point of your setup if it were actual Zombies, but I think we all would agree that SHTF from other means is about 20000% more likely.

How about this... concealed Level IIIA vest under civilian clothes. Hiking boots and inconspicuous outdoor clothing, no camo. Folding carbine of a common caliber in a non-descript backpack, multiple pistols easily accessible yet concelaed in either the same or common calibers. Hydration system concelaed within backpack.

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