Blackhawk Serpa holster review

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Re: Holsters

Post by MCP » 14 Jan 2011, 21:32

Just wanted to contribute to the holster thread.

My serpa hoslter on the blackhawk thigh rig.

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MY galco shoulder rig.

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Re: Holsters

Post by Adjuster » 03 May 2011, 09:23

I like the Blackhawk Serpa type holsters.
They come with a paddle, or belt mount, can be tilted/canted to various angles to fit your body, or draw style, and are easy to fit to the weapon. (Have a belt sander? Easy to cut down to just the right size for your pistol barrel.)

The FSN fit perfect right out of the container, just attached the mount to the angle I like, and it's good to go. (I did use the belt sander to smooth out any form lines, and 600 grit around the opening edges to remove the flash. I like a smooth holster, no hang up's or blemishes this way.)

The Serpa design is excellent, as you naturally release the weapon from the holster, and have your finger on the safety with the FSN.

Perfect.

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Re: Holsters

Post by jsedwards25 » 05 May 2011, 13:24

Adjuster wrote:I like the Blackhawk Serpa type holsters.
They come with a paddle, or belt mount, can be tilted/canted to various angles to fit your body, or draw style, and are easy to fit to the weapon. (Have a belt sander? Easy to cut down to just the right size for your pistol barrel.)

The FSN fit perfect right out of the container, just attached the mount to the angle I like, and it's good to go. (I did use the belt sander to smooth out any form lines, and 600 grit around the opening edges to remove the flash. I like a smooth holster, no hang up's or blemishes this way.)

The Serpa design is excellent, as you naturally release the weapon from the holster, and have your finger on the safety with the FSN.

Perfect.
I'm a fan of the Serpa as well. I have one for carrying and one attached via the MOLLE adapter to my tac vest for when I'm outdoors. For what I prefer, I've found this fits me nicely.

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Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by Rapier1772 » 05 May 2011, 17:03

This one is the Blackhawk CQC Model C1219
Gun was unloaded and I was not pointing it at my face! Just at the camera, gotta love the digital screens :)
First, the front sight should easily fit into the holster & not touch either side. If it doesn't, recheck the model & make sure you got the right one, it is printed on the holster.
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As for the holster itself, it is well made & has stood up to several training days with plenty of use. The retention device has worked perfectly & is very simple to operate. The weapon is readily available but wont fall out of the holster or get pulled out without hitting the release lever. Pressing the release & drawing the gun puts the user's finger directly under the safety & along the slide - right where it should be while drawing.
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It comes with a paddle type mount or belt loops (mine did anyway). The belt loop mount has stops on it which can be adjusted to your belt size.
The holster can also be slightly canted by adjusting the mounting screws on the back.
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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by Mister Freeze » 05 May 2011, 17:41

Nice. If I may add... At first, I wasn't fond of the paddle attachment, having never used one before. However, it did carry it away from my body a bit, accommodating my love handles. The ride height was too low for good concealment, so I constructed a riser (pix later). I have zero complaints now.

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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by Buffman » 05 May 2011, 17:58

I like mine, but I don't use it a whole lot anymore because I have my CBST. I had a youtube video showing front sight doesn't have clearance issues either :)

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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by blueorison » 05 May 2011, 20:38

Don't use Serpa's in excessively grainy, sandy, snowing environments. The catch, in all common sense, will start sticking or be blocked by the substance.

Other than that, it works great.
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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by firestorm248 » 05 May 2011, 20:42

blueorison wrote:Don't use Serpa's in excessively grainy, sandy, snowing environments. The catch, in all common sense, will start sticking or be blocked by the substance.

Other than that, it works great.
Good to know

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Post by blueorison » 05 May 2011, 20:48

You can remove the pin and use the Serpa as a standalone Level 1 to alleviate the problem in harsh environments.
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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by smpsmp » 05 May 2011, 21:07

You can also get a spacer kit that bring the holster out away from your body as well. It comes with two spacers in the kit. Spacer One is labeled, 1 on one side, and 2 on the other side. Spacer Two is labeled, 2 on one side, and 3 on the other side. So you can't use spacer one on a holster and spacer two on another holster. They sell for around 10 to 15 dollars, and if you have to cant the holster away from the body (especially with body armor) they work great.

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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by Rapier1772 » 05 May 2011, 22:23

blueorison wrote:Don't use Serpa's in excessively grainy, sandy, snowing environments. The catch, in all common sense, will start sticking or be blocked by the substance.
Other than that, it works great.
Define excessive. I know Tomac used his at a carbine class where he was rolling around in the dirt all day.
Tomac wrote:I've been running the Blackhawk thigh platform w/Serpa holster and at a recent carbine class both it and the FN57 performed flawlessly despite the ground-in powder-like dirt.
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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by Adjuster » 07 May 2011, 17:29

I like them so much I have one for the FsN and my M&P9. (The Crimson Trace laser works just fine with the holster, as there is no thumb strap to mess with the momentary switch.)

I have mine canted grip forward, to the maximum setting. (Think FBI cant.) It's comfortable, and allows for quick access to the pistol, and easy to re-holster.

I've used the military style with a large flap and pull clip latch with no problems for backpacking and such. That holster tends to wear the sides of the pistol in it however. (My PT99 spent many years of use in this type of holster, and has the wear marks on the sides of the slide, but no rust, or other issues in 23 odd years of use.

I expect the SERPA's to have even less wear on the pistols, as they don't have as many contact points. (And the SERPA's have a rubber anti-rattle setup that should not leave much of a mark either.)

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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by Gramaton Cleric » 07 May 2011, 17:43

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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by blueorison » 08 May 2011, 00:14

Adjuster wrote: I expect the SERPA's to have even less wear on the pistols, as they don't have as many contact points. (And the SERPA's have a rubber anti-rattle setup that should not leave much of a mark either.)
Adjuster, if only this were the case, we wouldn't have someone crying on a new thread every other week about their precious plastic slide cover getting scratched by the Serpa. The alternate weeks, others post "WILL THE SERPA SCRATCH MY SLIDE?"
Rapier1772 wrote:
blueorison wrote:Don't use Serpa's in excessively grainy, sandy, snowing environments. The catch, in all common sense, will start sticking or be blocked by the substance.
Other than that, it works great.
Define excessive. I know Tomac used his at a carbine class where he was rolling around in the dirt all day.
Tomac wrote:I've been running the Blackhawk thigh platform w/Serpa holster and at a recent carbine class both it and the FN57 performed flawlessly despite the ground-in powder-like dirt.
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Rapier, I'm talking about rocky, pebble-filled, big grain sand. The kind in the beaches of Asia, etc. Not fine sand. I used it for 18 hrs straight while ROing for a national multi-gun match in an extremely sandy environment with 0 issues. It was very fine sand and did not build up to block the catch. However, if you dump it in a sand bucket full of course sand, it will jam. It will also 100% jam when you pack it in snow.
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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by smpsmp » 08 May 2011, 22:41

Blue will the serpa scratch or wear away the finish on my FsN? :lmao:

I'm actually kinda surprised no one else said that yet. Anyway I actually haven't had mine scratch/wear the finish at all. The only reason I'm even concerned about it is just because it isn't mine, but even then my friend said he doesn't care, and expects, and I expect every holster to wear the finish after a long enough time (given a long enough time the odds of it happening, much like most things in life, catch up).

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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by Adjuster » 09 May 2011, 19:57

:) Weapons are tools. :)

I expect wear.

What I don't want is them to fail without some kind of notice/warning, and on that front, the FN stuff has been very good.

Thanks for the advice about snow and large sand/pebbles. Wonder if there is a way to provide a clean path to eject the snow? Don't know about the sand/pebbles.

Might be as easy a drilled hole or two to stop any snow related jams. (Like under the finger index release.. so you push the release, and it pushes the snow down through the holes, or out the sides.. Might need to "V" shape the underside of the release latch..)

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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by blueorison » 09 May 2011, 20:16

Adjuster;

that's an insightful thought process. When snow is packed down in it, it feels like you've taken hard cardboard and compressed it throughout the holster, around the firearm. The lateral tension formed by the packed snow might defeat the downward force acting upon it as it is not in liquid form. But there is no harm trying.

As always, you can remove the pin and use it as a Lvl I retention; allowing it to work in all conditions.

Thus far I have found the Serpa to be one of the best holsters for the FsN for value and function. Just don't get water condensation in it in frigid temps as it will lock up the mechanism and don't jam it with macro particles and it should be fine. Most of us will never encounter these conditions.
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Re: Holsters

Post by HecklerGuy » 15 May 2011, 11:14

Blackhawk CQC Paddle release is awesome

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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by HecklerGuy » 15 May 2011, 11:16

Minor modifications will allow use of a suppressor

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Re: Blackhawk Serpa holster review

Post by Rapier1772 » 15 May 2011, 16:29

You mean keeping the suppressor on while it is in the holster? I haven't tried that... :ponder:
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