Israel's TAVOR

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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by ChuckD » 21 Apr 2013, 20:18

Greenberg,

Local shop got one in and the trigger really turned me off. The one they got in had a similar trigger. I thought the safety was still on and checked and it wasn't.

Anyways, Congrats. I'm hoping you enjoy your purchase and hopefully find a way to reduce the weight a bit.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 21 Apr 2013, 21:44

Chuck, I shot my buddies today actually. Love the feel of the gun, but I agree on trigger. Untenable and really left me heartbroken. Not the worst I have felt, but dampened my fervor.
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Post by Rapier1772 » 21 Apr 2013, 22:04

flyingirish04 wrote:Chuck, I shot my buddies today actually. Love the feel of the gun, but I agree on trigger. Untenable and really left me heartbroken. Not the worst I have felt, but dampened my fervor.
Uh, you probably shouldn't be posting about shooting people. Especially shooting your friends - that's rude. :p
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Post by blueorison » 30 Apr 2013, 13:09

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Post by Rapier1772 » 30 Apr 2013, 14:35

Aren't military types trained to keep their weapon out of the dirt/mud? :laugh:

I like the look of that thing with a suppressor. Wish I could handle/try one out.
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Post by jgreenberg01 » 30 Apr 2013, 16:25

I'm going to do the water test with mine, however... I think I'm gonna skip the mud and sand experiment.

I'm just not that brave.
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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by Ditch » 02 May 2013, 04:31



here is his review



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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by Burt Gummer » 04 May 2013, 02:40

The trigger isn't the greatest.

My biggest complaint with my M4-2000 suppressor is the blowback. I might try shooting it with my SDN-6 and see if it eases up a bit.

It is a lot of fun and a well designed, easy to hold weapon.

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Post by jmz5 » 04 May 2013, 03:25

I handled the tavor yesterday at the convention, its very heavy and to me, a little akward.
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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by Ditch » 09 May 2013, 05:06

My local LGS has 16B in stock for 2100 I dislike paying over msrp on guns maybe in few months I will be able to pick one up at or below msrp.
It did fill a little hevy to me also.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 09 May 2013, 08:47

I paid just under MSRP for my flat top & the IDF version I have on preorder was $200 < MSRP.

If you forget GB and look around, you can find them without the insane markups. You probably will pay MSRP though.
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Post by flyingirish04 » 09 May 2013, 09:12

Rapier1772 wrote:
flyingirish04 wrote:Chuck, I shot my buddies today actually. Love the feel of the gun, but I agree on trigger. Untenable and really left me heartbroken. Not the worst I have felt, but dampened my fervor.
Uh, you probably shouldn't be posting about shooting people. Especially shooting your friends - that's rude. :p

Didn't you know that guns feel so much better when they are your buddies that you are shooting??? :p
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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by jgreenberg01 » 16 May 2013, 13:19

This was supposed to be a quick review of the Tavor, buttttt...

Once I started shooting this gun I just couldn't stop! I did accuracy testing with different rounds, also... IWI claims that the Tavor is Over-the-Beach capable and I wanted to see if that was true. Did it function properly after being completely submerged or did it result in a kaboom/trip to the ER?

I will say that this gun's ergonomics are incredible and on top of that, if you have a bunch-o-5.56 rounds to play with... this has got to be the most fun I have had shooting in a loooong time.

The only downside is the trigger. While it doesn't have the typical bullpup mushiness; it actually has a very clean break, it's fracking HEAVY. I mean heavy to the point where, during the accuracy testing, I literally had to stop to see if the safety was on. It did lighten up about four pounds (yes, 4lbs!) after several hundred rounds, but it's still incredibly distracting & tiring if you're shooting a lot of rounds. I am now going in search for a gunsmith who is competent/willing to work on this newly released gun and I will keep you all posted if anything changes.

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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by Ditch » 16 May 2013, 14:04

did you or will you run steel case ammo? just wondering.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 16 May 2013, 14:23

Ditch wrote:did you or will you run steel case ammo? just wondering.
I did not and I probably won't. I think Sturmgewehre on youtube has a video where he did that with a Tavor.
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Post by jgreenberg01 » 17 May 2013, 16:22

flyingirish04 wrote:Chuck, I shot my buddies today actually. Love the feel of the gun, but I agree on trigger. Untenable and really left me heartbroken. Not the worst I have felt, but dampened my fervor.
There's hope!

1) The trigger weight went from 14lbs to 10lbs after 600 or so rounds

2) There's a second spring used to make the trigger reset more positive that can be removed. When I did that, the pull went down to 7.5lbs. It was a very noticeable change.

3) Next up will be some polishing, and I figure that should be good for shaving off some additional weight. I'll do that after my next range outing which will be next Monday.

Here is the trigger pack with the reset spring (left) and without (right). It's just held in with a roll pin.

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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by Burt Gummer » 18 May 2013, 08:28

Polishing up trigger parts is beyond my knowledge level, but I bet for $50 or so Bill Springfield would do it.

I am going to try removing that spring and retesting the draw weight - that is a big 'wow'. The Tavor with half the trigger pull weight would be fantastic.

Just sent Bill some picks and info to see what he has to say. I don't know a better person to ask to smooth out and lighten a trigger.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 20 May 2013, 11:52

Update #1:

More accuracy shooting and a mod to reduce the trigger pull weight.

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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by jgreenberg01 » 28 Jun 2013, 06:13

Gotta love Jerry Miculek!

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Post by panzermk2 » 28 Jun 2013, 15:23

"If I can do it" LMFAO he could can and will long after most of us are in the ground.
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