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Official Flashlight Thread!

Post by MikeSantor » 29 Aug 2012, 17:51

Well I think there should be a thread about the OTHER tool no one should be without a good one of...

It seems to have come up a few times with people asking questions about lights so I figured we could keep one thread where people could come ask questions and what not.

If anyone thinks this is a dumb idea, Mods please feel free to delete with no hard feelings.







So to get it started...
My current work light, a Surfire 6P had moved on to better things. Its new job was to be stationed on my Rem 870 HD shottie.

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Well, This left me with no work light. So Here is what I whipped up...

Surefire C2-HA, Bored to 18mm to accommodate 18650 cells with XML drop in run at 5.2A soldered on to a solid copper PCB. She should be pushing ABOUT 1200 lumens on high. With the hot drop-in, I also put a Cryos cooling bezel on it. Although, medium will suffice for most tasks since it pushes over 500 lumens. Since I went with the bigger bezel, this brought on the next problem. The light did not fit my old sheath, So I went with the highly reviewed Blackhawk! holster. Not without a few modifications of course. First thing I did was swap out the rubber strap, which was one thing that all reviewers of the holster said would break, with an ITW stretchy string. This stuff is made in `Merica and is touch as nails so I should not have a problem with it breaking. Next I made a kydex battery holder for the side of it. With all the extra holes on the holster it was real easy to attach. Just put it up on the holster and mark out 2 preexisting holes in the holster on the kydex and drill. Throw a couple Chicago screws in and Im golden. Now we have an extra IMR 18650 on board and one in the pipe.

Im pretty stoked about the new work horse. Can not wait to get it beat up. I think the first thing Im going to do when I get to work tomorrow is see how far I can throw it. Should make all the Surefire collectors throw up on their keyboards...

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Post by blueorison » 29 Aug 2012, 18:08

Great setup.

Those who have not operated any kind of equipment at night cannot truly appreciate the import of a task-appropriate light.

Nice holster, smart mod, and 1200 lumens...

are you trying to illuminate Japan from here? :D

If you did, you might want to meet my friend.

I dug up this picture from our Surefire-sponsored Nightmatch just for you, brocellence. Enjoy!

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Post by MikeSantor » 29 Aug 2012, 18:16

Ahh, the beast. Very nice but very rare. They never went into full production. Now if you want to talk surefire megalights, its the hellfighter. I know a few people with them but at $5k, I will NEVER own one.

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Post by blueorison » 29 Aug 2012, 18:30

MikeSantor wrote:Ahh, the beast. Very nice but very rare. They never went into full production. Now if you want to talk surefire megalights, its the hellfighter. I know a few people with them but at $5k, I will NEVER own one.
Oh, like THAT thing we were using?

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Post by MikeSantor » 29 Aug 2012, 18:49

Yes, that is definatley the silhouette.old of a hellfighter :)

Way cool but WAY overpriced. Then again, I guess all American made HIDs are expensive....

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Post by PainKillaX » 29 Aug 2012, 19:09

That is impressive! Very jealous. So with your expertise, what would you recommend for a flashlight that can take a beating, doesn't drain the batteries too quickly, is relatively bright, can transition from a pocket to a rifle mount quickly, and is under $200? Too tall of and order? :p

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Post by MikeSantor » 29 Aug 2012, 19:13

PainKillaX wrote:That is impressive! Very jealous. So with your expertise, what would you recommend for a flashlight that can take a beating, doesn't drain the batteries too quickly, is relatively bright, can transition from a pocket to a rifle mount quickly, and is under $200? Too tall of and order? :p
Run off primaries or rechargables?

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Post by f3rr37 » 29 Aug 2012, 19:14

How about we just make a sub-forum?

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Post by PainKillaX » 29 Aug 2012, 19:15

Hmm. Is it possible to have both? Like how they have the rechargeable AAs?
I too would enjoy a flashlight sub-forum :)

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Post by f3rr37 » 29 Aug 2012, 19:23

PainKillaX wrote:I too would enjoy a flashlight sub-forum :)
Well then... welcome. :)

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Post by MikeSantor » 29 Aug 2012, 19:31

Thanks fuzzy!
PainKillaX wrote:Hmm. Is it possible to have both? Like how they have the rechargeable AAs? :thumb:
I too would enjoy a flashlight sub-forum :)
Your biggest problem is going to be getting a rifle mount for a flashlight that takes 14mm batteries, AKA AA's. The majority are made for 16-18mm cells.

If you are willing to use 16mm cells, aka cr123's or even better, 18mm rechargeable cells, a world of opertunity opens up.



EDIT, Now that I got to an actual computer instead of my phone...

If I was going to go AA, I would probably go this route:

http://www.foursevens.com/product_info. ... ts_id=3190" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

4sevens is a great company with great CS. This is the newest Cree LED that JUST came out, the XPG2. Has great specs and people are loving it. I like going with Throwy lights for long guns and floody lights for hand guns. A lot of people dont think about this but when you have a rifle, you are USUALLY trying to engage something out past say 30 yards. Why use a floody light for this. This goes the same for a handgun. You are usually using this at less then 20 yards. Why have a throwy light for this?

If you want something with a little less throw but more OTF lumens, go with the XML LED version of the light:

http://www.foursevens.com/product_info. ... ts_id=2933" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Some notable mentions would also include:

Olight
http://www.olightworld.com/en/products_ ... CateId=523" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fenix
http://www.fenixlights.com/fenix-e/fenix-e25-r4.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jetbeam
http://www.jet-beam.com/links/pro/pa10.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by jmz5 » 30 Aug 2012, 15:22

Mike, go nuts with this sub forum, I love flashlights and want to get into building them. I love your flashlight posts! Maybe you could do a budget build?

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Post by MikeSantor » 30 Aug 2012, 16:02

Thanks Justin.

I copied one of my posts from a few weeks ago and modified it a little. Here is my take on the budget P60/Surefire clone build.

Host- Solarforce is making the most high quality 6P hosts in China. extremely nice. Note, also comes in lots of colors.

http://www.lighthound.com/Solarforce-L2 ... _2629.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Engine/Drop in- If you want rock solid USA made engine, Nailbender is the man and the XM-L is the LED you want. Here is a basic drop in. He will also build you something with a different voltage if you need more than 600 lumens.

http://www.lighthound.com/Nailbender-Cu ... _3832.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Battery- The best:

http://www.lighthound.com/AW-18650-Prot ... _3954.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or this for high power[ current] applications:

http://www.lighthound.com/AW-IMR-18650- ... _4075.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Charger- Great quality to price ratio:

http://www.lighthound.com/Ultrafire-WF- ... _2279.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Total: under $140.

Lighthound and oveready are 2 of the best companies in the game to buy from. Amazing CS, fast shipping and great prices.

This right here is a monster set up. The best part is, the P60 is futureproof. As new LEDs come out, all you have to do is get new engines/drop ins a you are up to date. I can promise you, YOU WILL NOT FIND A BETTER LIGHT FOR THE MONEY, PERIOD.

If you want to go 100% USA made and you like having a surefire in your pocket, all you have to do is replace the solarforce with an actual SF p60 host that has been bored out to accept 18mm cells: http://www.oveready.com/a-hosts/surefir" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... od_12.html

If you need more run time get a 9P. Same as 6P only longer battery. http://www.oveready.com/a-hosts/surefir" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... od_16.html

Then swap the above 18650 battery with (2) 18500's http://www.batteryjunction.com/ultrafire-18500.html0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, AKA the surefire 6P build:


Host- Solarforce is making the most high quality 6P hosts in China. extremely nice. Note, also comes in lots of colors. http://www.lighthound.com/Solar-Force-L" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... _3473.html

Engine/Drop in- If you want rock solid USA made engine, Nailbender is the man and the XM-L is the LED you want. Here is a basic drop in. He will also build you something with a different voltage if you need more than 600 lumens. http://www.lighthound.com/Nailbender-Cu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... _3832.html

Battery- The best: http://www.lighthound.com/AW-18650-Prot" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... _3954.html

Charger- Great quality to price ratio. http://www.lighthound.com/Ultrafire-WF-" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... _3669.html

Total: less then $130 bucks. And thats WITH batteries and charger, a one time expense.

Lighthound and oveready are 2 of the best companies in the game to buy from. Amazing CS, fast shipping and great prices.

This right here is a monster set up. The best part is, the P60 is futureproof. As new LEDs come out, all you have to do is get new engines/drop ins and you are up to date. I can promise you, YOU WILL NOT FIND A BETTER LIGHT FOR THE MONEY, PERIOD.

If you want to go 100% USA made and you like having a surefire in your pocket, all you have to do is replace the solarforce with an actual SF p60 host that has been bored out to accept 18mm cells: http://www.oveready.com/a-hosts/surefir" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... od_12.html

If you need more run time get a 9P. Same as 6P only longer battery. http://www.oveready.com/a-hosts/surefir" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... od_16.html

Then swap the above 18650 battery with (2) 18500's http://www.batteryjunction.com/ultrafire-18500.htmjust" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; make sure you have a drop in that is rated up to 7.4 volts.
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Post by jmz5 » 31 Aug 2012, 17:00

lighthound links no workie.
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Post by MikeSantor » 31 Aug 2012, 17:16

Relinked, from my phone, while out in the woods...

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Post by jmz5 » 01 Sep 2012, 04:01

Could I power something like that with 123 batteries? Most of my flashlights take them and I have over a hundred on hand.

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Post by MikeSantor » 01 Sep 2012, 04:13

It would run amazing on 2 123's. That drop in is rated for 6 volts so you would be giving it full power with 2 primaries. Go for it man.

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Post by jmz5 » 01 Sep 2012, 16:21

How about single cells, what would recommend to get the most bang for my buck to run on a single 123? Maybe new thread? I'm going to order that setup.
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Post by jmz5 » 01 Sep 2012, 16:22

MikeSantor wrote:It would run amazing on 2 123's. That drop in is rated for 6 volts so you would be giving it full power with 2 primaries. Go for it man.

The bulb says DO NOT USE 2xRCR123?
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