New Tactical .45 owner

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New Tactical .45 owner

Post by Hebs » 03 Mar 2012, 15:15

Looking forward to shooting this pistol...

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Re: New Tactical .45 owner

Post by Ubetit » 04 Mar 2012, 11:13

I've been tempted to pick one up myself. I like the looks of that pistol in that color

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Re: New Tactical .45 owner

Post by Hebs » 04 Mar 2012, 18:42

It shot great today. The wife shot both eyes out of the zombie with her first two shots...

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Re: New Tactical .45 owner

Post by Thedirtyheat » 04 Mar 2012, 18:45

Zombie targets.... Nothing else prepares you for the pending attack

Glad to hear the successful range visit!

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Re: New Tactical .45 owner

Post by blueorison » 04 Mar 2012, 18:52

Awesome shooting! Great to hear you brought your wife out! :)
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Re: New Tactical .45 owner

Post by Hebs » 04 Mar 2012, 19:14

Ha... she shot the SCAR more than I did. She told me these two are her new favorites. In her words, "the SCAR is much sexier than the the M&P15... I wish I had one."

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Post by blueorison » 04 Mar 2012, 19:19

wow.

just

wow.

So much awesome. You must have smiled, really wide. :)

I know I would have. :thumb:
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Re: New Tactical .45 owner

Post by Thedirtyheat » 04 Mar 2012, 19:47

That's the best when wife wants it takes much less convincing to get what you want. Or in a better way I think less begging for forgiveness.

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Post by Hebs » 05 Mar 2012, 04:59

The only thing that wowed me that day was how accurate she was with the 45. (and the Range Officer as well I'm sure since he was watching.) I figured the first shot was luck. So when I told her to take out the other eye and she did, I must say I was quite proud. We're already looking at the next addition to the SCAR...

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Re: New Tactical .45 owner

Post by Burt Gummer » 29 Sep 2012, 00:41

The point of an FN Tactical is adding an RMR site.

If not, an HK tactical is a better choice. Just IMO. Not trying to offend, since this is indeed an FN forum.

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Post by blueorison » 29 Sep 2012, 01:26

Burt Gummer wrote:The point of an FN Tactical is adding an RMR site.

If not, an HK tactical is a better choice. Just IMO. Not trying to offend, since this is indeed an FN forum.
I sincerely doubt and hope that no one is offended, just because you offered something that was preferred by yourself; even if it is an FN forum.

I think most of us are pretty open minded, though there are a few that DEFINITELY aren't. :)

Let's look at a few things;

Value: FN TAC wins hands down. No question. HK is overpriced, and FN gives you a ridiculous amount of HIGH-end extras that you would have to pay big money to get (raised suppressor-compatible night sights, MRD sight/"site" option, FDE for those who like it, higher capacity (IIRC), more magazines included.

Trigger: I would have to go with FN TAC. If it was an HK45 or USP Expert or HK USP .45 with dropped-in upgraded trigger, it would be neck and neck. However, the HK TAC USP .45, the older model, doesn't have as good as a single action as the FN TAC or the HK45.

Looks: I don't care about looks that much, at all, so whatever. But the FN would win, hands down.

Accuracy: Probably on par with each other.

Speed/Shootability: FN wins. Lower bore axis.

I'll let you be the judge. :)

Btw... I don't care about brands, just the product, and if it works. Since I don't need the extras like threaded bbls, suppressor sights, MRD sight-cuts, etc.

I would say the HK45 and FNP .45 would be neck and neck for me if price were NOT in the equation, and if asked the question; "Which .45 pistol would you buy from HK or FN?" However, FNP .45's were going for $500ish and the HK 45s are $1000, twice the price. Also, the FNP's have a lower bore axis. That alone eliminates most pros/cons from the argument, for me. The FNP .45 has replaceable backstraps... has dual-tone variants... ~50% higher capacity...

The one thing I like much better on the HK45 is the ergonomics. Though you can change the backstraps on the FNP .45, the HK45's ergos wins hands-down, for me. I also like it because it is lighter. Looks-wise, this time, the HK45 wins, hands-down. The FNP does not have the bad-affery as the FN TAC, does.

However, as I understand it, most people don't see it my way. They hear other people's glowing reviews of HK's (which also are influenced by the "I paid a lot for this firearm, therefore it must be awesome" effect) and build up a theory/image in their head that HK's are the bomb. So, when you ask them, "Why'd you get the HK?" Instead of giving physical facts/evidence, they just repeat what the other HK fan said; "Because HK's are just so well-built, they are so accurate, the SF guys use them...etc. etc."

Instead of really answering the question, "Why is the HK better than the FN, other than what you FEEL."

FYI, I like many of HK's firearms. I do think they are well-built and engineered. Since they are operator, and have SPECIALFORCES input (just like, apparently, every gun apparatus out there; though the input this time was from Hackathorn and Vickers) you can sleep better at night because you own one and that makes you a tactical ninja. The same, sadly, cannot be claimed by FN.

Here is one youtuber's and firearm reviewer's review of the HK45 and the FNP45.

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