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The Glock Pistol

Post by blueorison » 16 Sep 2011, 15:49

Most effortless stock pistol to reload, ever. Maybe because I'm used to reloading into 1911-style 0 bevel magwells.

Have shot many glocks at IPSC. My favourite Glock modification is still none. I like it the way it is. Many think that it is not good enough. Extended this, that, and the kitchen sink. I still prefer the low-profile slide release. I do realize that some just like modifying the gun for fun.

Glocks jam, just like any other gun.

They are fun to shoot, and their mags are easier to load than the majority of guns I've used.

Glock should have held onto their best designer; their latest Gen4 release has seen a plunge in QC.

I shoot the .357SIG G31 in competition (when I find cheap ammo!). I do it for training and to improve and learn. That is my focus; and not upon numbers.

I like glocks.

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Post by hookdriver » 16 Sep 2011, 16:11

I too enjoy the glock pistol very much. A G19 is my carry pistol and I have the same light as that in your pictures. I've made some mods to mine -- mostly for fun and learning how the pistol works. It is pretty good right out of the box. I've never shot the 357 sig. I'll have to see if they have one at the local range. Cheers

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Post by Tachycardia » 16 Sep 2011, 16:17

There is a g31 for sale on backpage near me with and threaded barrel.

I want but don't need.

I just hate the stock sights on Glocks, change them and it is a fin shooting pistol

My master plan it to get a .40 CZ P07 and have the custom shop convert it to 357 sig

It would run me around $220 but I am highly considering it.

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Post by Visceral_Malice » 16 Sep 2011, 17:48

I'm not a fan of glocks. It has nothing to do with the way they function or quality; I just can't get past the looks. They are so blah and uninteresting looking. I'm a sucker for aesthetics. I shoot my 357 sigs from an XD, which also seems to be a pretty polarizing gun. I really love it.

I love the 357 sig. It may be my favorite pistol cartridge. I love my 5.7, but there's just something about the percussive boom and hefty recoil on the sig that strikes my fancy. BTW Blue, I should have those on their way to you Monday.

I have a low light video of the 357 in action. The muzzle flash is pretty massive. This is my buddy shooting my XD.


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Post by blueorison » 16 Sep 2011, 18:00

My thoughts are, the .357SIG is what the 9mm should have been. However, with current bullet tech and design, the 9mm is fine by me.

Thanks for sharing, Visceral :) I'll shoot a stage with your reloads at the next night match and borrow a camera to capture the muzzle flashes.
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Post by PainKillaX » 16 Sep 2011, 18:20

I understand why people like 'em, but it's not anywhere near my favorite. Then again, I've gained a lot of experience and time with other handguns since then, so it's probably time to give a Glock a try again.

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Post by drkstrw » 16 Sep 2011, 18:56

I like the .357sig. Have an Hk P2000SK in .357sig its what i use mostly for a carry gun.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 16 Sep 2011, 19:23

I've only shot one glock & I didn't like the way the grip was angled. Usually, when I shoot I feel like I am pointing at the target, not so with the glock. In order to line the sights with the target it felt like I was shooting downward.

It shot fine & didn't jam for the few rounds I put through it (1 full mag) & I can understand why people like them but they're not for me. I've also seen them take a lot of abuse & function perfectly. The only thing I would like to point out is that the glock 10mm chambers are unsupported & as a result one cannot safely reload those rounds unless they buy the custom barrel. In that case, some "custom" work is necessary IMO.
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Post by eVenom » 16 Sep 2011, 19:34

I dont like the grip of the glocks... Most people that I know that own one cover it with something

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Post by blueorison » 16 Sep 2011, 21:00

@Irish:

I usually point naturally with guns that I have shot, such that the front sight lines up with the rear. However, with some, such as the glock, the front sight may point high or low, usually depending on the heel or tail ergonomics and frontstrap/backstrap design of the pistol. With glocks, I do the opposite that you do. I naturally point very high with glocks. I just make myself learn to the gun; shooter > gear. However, I agree that it's much better to shoot a gun you shoot naturally with. That's why I do have a primary platform I use.

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I have to agree. Glock barrels are completely inexcusable the way they are. For a modern combat pistol, they should be fully supported. Thanks for pointing that out. I'd forgotten about it. I've seen many custom barrels in glocks.
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Post by srt-4_jon » 17 Sep 2011, 03:16

The barrels are that way so everything will feed.

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Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 17 Sep 2011, 07:24

I've only been "handgunning" for about a decade; I dont consider myself experienced by a long shot (no pun intended). When I first started out, I harbored a lot of negative feelings towards Glock based on what seemed to be a lot of hype about nothing but a plastic gun with very little in the way of features, ergonomics, looks, or charm.

I also got VERY used to shooting my three HK's (that I had at the time), and fell into that german-made HK snobbery where nothing could be as good as an upper-end USP. At one point about ten years ago, that may have been somewhat true.

My first Glock, ironically, was a G31 full size in .357 Sig. I bought it becuase I wanted to get into shooting the .357 due to its amazing ballastics without spending a huge amount of cash, and they had a G31 marked down to $425 NIB with night sights... Sold! From that point on, my outlook on Glocks changed after becoming an actual Glock owner.

I started shooting more and more, and started carrying more and more. What I slowly realized is that the Glock, with all its "blandness" was actually an ingenous design that did things BETTER than pistols that cost literally twice or three times as much.

- Bottom line, it was SIMPLE. No safety to click-off, no hammer exposed, no takedown lever (per say), the lines were angular but clean and snag-free. It disassembled in seconds into only 3 major parts. It was meant for one purpose, POINT --- SQUEEZE, it was in essence "the revolver of automatics". By eliminating or minimizing the external controls, Gaston Glock actually made the pistol more effective in its end purpose, which is to draw a weapon in a stressful life or death situation and USE IT. Not a target gun, not a range queen, not a safe queen, not some rhbe-goldberg german work of precision machinery... No muscle-memory required... POINT-- SQUEEZE.

- It was infinately customizable. Dont like the grips, sights, barrels, springs, triggers? Fine, a dozen companies make cheap and high-quality parts to suit whatever you want. I have match barrels on all my Glocks now, as well as night sights, threaded barrels, compensators, suppressors, compensators, lasers, lights, and the kitchen sink.

- It was insanely reliable. When it comes to any machine, the less moving parts it has, the more reliable it is.. thats the first lesson you learn in any 200-level college ME course. Glock nailed it, and even though the tolerence are very lose on some aspect of the gun, its so it makes sure it will feed anything from the cheapest Wolf crap ammo, to the most expsneive match. Again, more effective in its end purpose, POINT --- SQUEEZE --- BOOM.

-It was low and sleek. The axis of the recoil force, which is centered and perpendicular to the barrel, is very close to the center of mass, and the center of area, which means the gun rotates less becuase it has less moment (torque) generated when you shoot it. Most of that force instead is generated into an axial movement rearward, reducing muzzel flip and increasing controllability. Say what you want about your personal experiences, but these are the physics.

-It is interchangable and offered in a variety of sizes. For the purposes of SHTF/TEOTWAWKI, Glocks are the only pistol I'll ever carry. They're as popular and plentiful as AR-15's, and parts would never be an issue, I have extra barrels, trigger packs, springs, and more for just about every one of my Glocks. I can pack 33rd happy sticks for my wife's G26, my G19, as well as bring along my G17C with suppressor and G34L all in the same bag and everything is interchangable, including the mags. I can shoot multiple calibers out of the same guns with my G20 and G29 all day long, 10/.40/.357/9x25, or just swap out the slide on the 10'mms and shoot .45. They're light and low profile, easy to conceal, reliable, and perfect for defensive situations, weather it be zombies or roving mobs of civil unrest.

I now own 7 Glocks, and I plan on adding a few more. I've sold off most of the other major brands of pistols I have, except for 3 FN's, A few Smith and Wesson wheel guns, and one big-ass Desert Eagle just for fun.

Glock got it right on the first time, and if you look at copy-cats like the Springfield XD or new Rugers, they're all trying to mimick the original.

Just my .02 on Glocks.

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Post by toyslr » 17 Sep 2011, 08:25

Actually agree with Sea! Springfield is a direct knock off of Glocks along with many ther NEW polymer pistols. Why do you think Springfield branched out into polymer handguns?
Last read I had was that 60-65% of L.E. issue or carry Glocks, along with a good percentage of military units. Looks aren't everything or really anything when it comes to weapons, its all about point and shoot. Most inexperienced shooter will pick up a Glock over other brands and be able to point, shoot, and hit a target easier and faster with a Glock. I have seen it in my time working in gun stores and renting out weapons to those who are just getting into the market.

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Post by blueorison » 17 Sep 2011, 08:48

@Sea:

The G31 was my first glock, also.

I like guns that do not have safeties. I do not use safeties. A big reason why I like the glock. The term "Glock safety" is a joke; the glock has 0 external safeties.

The glock is my favourite pistol to teach beginners on, because it has nothing out of the ordinary and share many characteristics with many guns. It is thus easier to relate to a broad number of pistols.
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$20 bucks says Irish comes in and tells Sea how full of crap he is and dissagrees with everything!



















hehe, just clown`n. Please dont ban me...


Unfortunately for me I shot my first glock at the same time I shot my first Sig 226. I think the sig shot so well that it just made the glock seem like it shot like crap.

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MikeSantor wrote:$20 bucks says Irish comes in and tells Sea how full of crap he is and dissagrees with everything!

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Unfortunately for me I shot my first glock at the same time I shot my first Sig 226. I think the sig shot so well that it just made the glock seem like it shot like crap.
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Post by Visceral_Malice » 17 Sep 2011, 09:57

Just to point this out; there is no original gun design. Everyone copies everyone. All guns, just as any product, evolve from inspiration from other designs. Knocking a company for that is just having a hipster attitude. Saying oh, they did it first and that's when I liked it.

I don't like glocks because I don't like the way the look or feel. $500 is a lot of money to me and I'm not going to pay that on something which I don't enjoy every aspect. I have contemplated purchasing a glock in 9mm several times, but I can't make myself go for it.

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Post by Tachycardia » 17 Sep 2011, 10:05

Visceral_Malice wrote:Just to point this out; there is no original gun design. Everyone copies everyone. All guns, just as any product, evolve from inspiration from other designs. Knocking a company for that is just having a hipster attitude. Saying oh, they did it first and that's when I liked it.

I don't like glocks because I don't like the way the look or feel. $500 is a lot of money to me and I'm not going to pay that on something which I don't enjoy every aspect. I have contemplated purchasing a glock in 9mm several times, but I can't make myself go for it.
I did and sold it quickly.
I simply prefer the CZ platform, and for a poly gun I would prefer a steyr or P07

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Post by RC57 » 17 Sep 2011, 11:58

Had my G19 out at the range today. It was my first handgun, and I bought used right out of one of Bud's safes 17 years ago. Still works perfectly. Never had a FTF or FTE with thousands of rounds. The only change I made to it from stock was to add a Hogue grip. It's not my favorite pistol, but I must say, the thing is just plain stupid reliable. It's also easy to shoot well enough to handle any situation that may arise.

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Post by srt-4_jon » 17 Sep 2011, 13:11

blueorison wrote:
I like guns that do not have safeties. I do not use safeties. A big reason why I like the glock. The term "Glock safety" is a joke; the glock has 0 external safeties.
Notice it says Glock safety and not glock external safeties. The Glock safeties are meant to stop the gun from going off by itself, not when you pull the trigger.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 17 Sep 2011, 13:30

blueorison wrote:@Irish:

I usually point naturally with guns that I have shot, such that the front sight lines up with the rear. However, with some, such as the glock, the front sight may point high or low, usually depending on the heel or tail ergonomics and frontstrap/backstrap design of the pistol. With glocks, I do the opposite that you do. I naturally point very high with glocks. I just make myself learn to the gun; shooter > gear. However, I agree that it's much better to shoot a gun you shoot naturally with. That's why I do have a primary platform I use.
Huh? did I ask a question? That being said, I agree with what you are, uh agreeing to. :ponder:
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MikeSantor wrote:$20 bucks says Irish comes in and tells Sea how full of crap he is and dissagrees with everything




hehe, just clown`n. Please dont ban me...


Unfortunately for me I shot my first glock at the same time I shot my first Sig 226. I think the sig shot so well that it just made the glock seem like it shot like crap.
I agree on the Sig. However, contrary to some people's vanity, I don't have time nor desire to read everything they said and look for a spot to hit em on. :facepalm:

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Post by panzermk2 » 17 Sep 2011, 22:30

Blocks don't fit my hand at all so I don't own one. I do have a Storm Lake Glock 10mm barrel though for when I get around to getting a Robar grip reduced G20.
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Post by MikeSantor » 18 Sep 2011, 09:25

panzermk2 wrote:Blocks don't fit my hand at all so I don't own one. I do have a Storm Lake Glock 10mm barrel though for when I get around to getting a Robar grip reduced G20.
This is the setup im looking to have by the end of the year. have been honing my skills at grip reductions for about a year now.

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Post by smpsmp » 20 Sep 2011, 16:51

Glocks are one of those "great guns, but not for me" ones. I never got to interested in them I think cause, to me anyway, they aren't customizable enough (I like to tinker with my guns), and when I have shot them, as other members have said, when I draw up and point the gun seems to be pointing downwards. I know practice would fix that, but to me, why would I buy a gun that doesn't already feel natural as many others do. But those two complaints are just pet peeves of mine, and nothing against the functionality of the gun. Plus even if they make a model I like, I could never say it out loud in front of my one friend who's a Glock nut. So I'll just keep telling him how many generations will it be till they finally perfect the "Glock Perfection." :laugh:

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Post by CenCalSplicer » 20 Sep 2011, 19:23

I own a G21 and G30. I love both of them. Was never a fan until I bought one off a LEO that needed money for a 1911. It shot great for me from the first round I fired and I couldn't be happier with it. It all comes down to what feels good in your hand and shoots well for you. Some folks out there will only shoot bolt guns over AR style guns in the same caliber. Do whats best for you and yours especially when you're looking for a carry weapon. You'll be more confident when you need to use it and that is all that matters.

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Post by FNForever » 01 Oct 2011, 04:22

Glock is the working mans gun. It looks like a black vcr with a trigger, the standard trigger in my opinion sucks compared to a SA dedicated trigger( i hate the trigger on my M&P too), and the ergonomics aren't for everybody. That said the gun works very well and is probably the least picky of guns made today. Its combat accuracy is stellar and many shoot and win competitions with completely stock Glocks. I've owned a couple, shot many, and have never had an issue with any of them. I cant say that for any other handgun that i've shot.

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Post by smpsmp » 02 Oct 2011, 17:23

Panzer,
I do like the idea of a robar grip reduction on a 10mm Glock, but for me it would need a new barrel as well (revert back to the thread on the Storm Lake barrels), new sights, and probably the slide release extension (only because I like it).

Actually just saw this the other day on a different forum.

http://glockstore.com/index/384_Custom+Guns/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Blue,

Some of them have a tactical trigger job too. You know they are better than regular trigger jobs.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 02 Oct 2011, 18:51

Glocks are fine, but in no way more esteemed than any other quality pistol in that price range. No difference in reliability in my experience either. Their 'bullet proof' reputation is largely marketing. They are solid, but so are SW M&Ps, Sigs, CZs, etc. All depends what feels best in the hand and pulling the trigger. And frankly, I think they are 150 bucks too expensive for what you get.

I would buy a G20SF, but only because it is a hi cap 10 mm. I sold my G29, hated the feel in my hand. The moment someone enters the market with competition, likely I will look their way first.
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Post by smpsmp » 02 Oct 2011, 23:12

I agree Irish. I would like one just so how much I can really change on it, and I have to look and see what the cost is for me, you have me curious now, and I swear to god if it says price on request like Tikka, Sig, and FNH I'm going to be very annoyed. haha.

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Post by Oldbindlestiff » 03 Oct 2011, 06:24

The Gen 4 edition of the Glock addresses the grip issue with changeable backstraps. Install a Ghost Rocket trigger and then shoot the hell out of it. The Rocket results in about a 3.5 lb. trigger pull and a much faster reset. As for caliber, the 9mm is the cheapest to shoot; the G30 in .45 cal is the "softest" shooting .45 I've ever tried. It probably will be my next pistol since my Dillon is already setup to load .45. I agree with an earlier post that advances in ammunition design have altered the playing field. And, yep, it ain't a pretty gun.
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Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 03 Oct 2011, 07:37

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you look at a gun for pure functionality, then a Glock is perfection; nature's Shark- no more evolution required.

If you want a piece of modern art in your hands, there are plenty of choice on the market, open to your own interpretations.

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Post by Iyyob » 12 Jan 2012, 08:00

SeaHawkDriver-B wrote:Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you look at a gun for pure functionality, then a Glock is perfection; nature's Shark- no more evolution required.

If you want a piece of modern art in your hands, there are plenty of choice on the market, open to your own interpretations.
I couldn't have said it better my self, this is why with every new gun purchase I make I always stack it up vs glocks and think hrmmm I could dual weild glock 19s for the same price as my 5.7 ... When I was young and got my 1st glock with the sheriff dept I hated it caus of how it looked, now that I'm older I love them for how they work.

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Post by toyslr » 12 Jan 2012, 10:07

Theres a reason approx. 65% of Law enforcement agencies carry Glocks...Their inexpenisve and dependable! If you think thats marketing than your crazy.
No safeties to malfunction or for the shooter to forget. Standard 5lb trigger, high cap mags, lightweight design, point and shoot accuracy.
I have 3 now, 21,23,30. 30 was my carry for years and have a 3.5 lb trigger, full length tungsten guide rod, trijicon night sights, 10 round capacity. There
are as many parts out there to customize these things as for the 1911, you just gotta look.

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Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 12 Jan 2012, 16:20

I have several glocks and enjoy the interchangability. The 19 my wife keeps by her bed, and the 26 she keeps in her purse; same functionality, same grip, same mags, same ammo, same sights. The 29 I CCW; same deal goes the 20SF Longslide I carry in the woods. I also have a 30SF I use for CCW, it is the exact same lower as the 29, fits in the same holster, same footprint, same weight, the list goes on.... The 17C I keep in the truck with (4) 33rd happy sticks is essentially the same weapon I plan to purchase for IDPA, the 34. Anyways, the piont being I feel like I have an unlimited number of caliber and size choices for a dozen different applications in essentially the same platform.

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Post by toyslr » 13 Jan 2012, 08:41

Fantastic plastic, combat tupperware, whatever you want to call it....

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flyingirish04 wrote:
Huh? did I ask a question? That being said, I agree with what you are, uh agreeing to. :ponder:
Blue was just answering your next question. But now that he answered it there's no need to ask... Cary on

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Post by Deathmaster » 30 Jan 2012, 14:02

I own 11 Glocks now. I bought my first G17 (Gen 1) while in college then switched to the magnificant G19 (Gen 2) in '93 or '94 and sold the 17. I now own every caliber except 45 GAP (no interest whatsoever). My favorites are still the 19, the 21SF, the 34 and big 20 10mm. I own no Gen4 Glocks and will probably stick with my Gen2 and 3s.

While I own a 357 Sig Match Barrell to drop in my G23 I really don't see much difference ballistically in .357 Sig and 9mm +P+. I have loads of +P+ ammo and like being able to train with cheap ammo then put the nasty +P+ stuff in my carry gun. I probably shoot 357 Sig less than any other caliber just because it is so damn expensive shoot (along with 10mm- I rarely shoot it but carry it as hunting sidearm a lot).

I think the M&P and the XD are both solid guns but I can get Glock parts at 7-11 and spare mags at Sonic in the kids meal. Being able to buy parts and cheap $20 mags is a great deal. In 2008 I bought around 100 Glock mags at the Market Hall Gun Show in Dallas for $11.99/each. Hard to beat that deal and now I have enough mags to last a lifetime!! My kids and someday grandkids will have hi-cap mags for their Glocks long after I kick-it!!

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Post by blueorison » 30 Jan 2012, 16:57

Factory ammo is crap, even from "hotter" mfg reloaders. I'm looking to EA to solve this problem with the SIG round.

Other than that, you can load SIG to ~1600fps. Handloads.
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Post by srt-4_jon » 30 Jan 2012, 18:19

If you want a fast 9mm projectile, you could get a G20 and a 9x25 barrel. reloading cost wouldnt be much more expensive either.

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Post by blueorison » 30 Jan 2012, 18:57

The .357SIG does not use a 9mm projectile. The construction is different. Just an FYI, might be unrelated to what you commented, SRT.
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Post by srt-4_jon » 30 Jan 2012, 21:40

by 9mm projectile, i meant the size.

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Post by Cyberfly » 31 Jan 2012, 07:49

I understand all the reasoning behind the Glock fans and their love of the weapon. I drove a G20 for years with the SO and other than being a 1st Gen and the frame cracking, it seemed to be a fine weapon. I just never could get past the grip angle. It never felt 'right' in my hand. I always qualified with it and always scored well with her, but she was uncomfortable.
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I thought about maybe one day picking up another Glock and maybe seeing if I could find some Hogue grips or 'something' to correct the grip angle, but never really saw it through. There were just so many other pistols out there that fit my hand better and felt like a natural extension of my arm. The Sig P226T, the FsN, the Ruger P95 and P89, the FNP40. Maybe one day I'll run across a deal I can't refuse on a G20 and try again, but unless I really think I can compensate for that grip angle..I may well pass on it.
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Post by JTSX1 » 31 Jan 2012, 20:37

Hmmm...first time shot a G19, I noticed how bad the angle was and how uncomfortable it was for me to shoot (I had to uncomfortably angle my wrist downward). I've since acquired a G27 (not sure if the fames are the same I just got used to it or what) in which i shoot just fine with. I was mesmerized by the hype surrounding the sig .357 round, so I went a head and bought a G32 (S&W M&P was available to , but like Glock trigger better) and just can't get as accurate with it, even taking my time and slow firing. It also fails to feed more often than anything else I've fired, minus DB9, and that's using your standard 1300 fps range ammo. Anyone else have this issue of not being accurate with this round or glock model ? I've shortened the reset and severely lightened the trigger with no luck...I definitely prefer the 27 to carry--that 32 trigger is way too light.

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Post by Mister Freeze » 06 Feb 2012, 13:42

Recently got a G19 as part of a trade. I've fired Glocks before, and am no fanboy, but having this one around a little while, I can see some of the appeal. The simplicity of the whole point-and-shoot is good, and the construction seems good.

I can see keeping it if there wasn't anything else I'd prefer to have (PLR-16 these days). I'll sell it or trade it when a deal comes along.

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Post by p99guy » 18 Mar 2012, 22:06

I picked up a G31 a couple of weeks ago, and put the extended controls on it, the rubber decal grips, AmeriGlo "Operator" night sights, and a add on beavertail that is out now,
Called a Grip Force Adapter.... They are worth getting by the way.
I have liked the .357 Sig for a while, my first a Sig P229 in that caliber.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 18 Mar 2012, 23:07

p99guy wrote:I picked up a G31 a couple of weeks ago, and put the extended controls on it, the rubber decal grips, AmeriGlo "Operator" night sights, and a add on beavertail that is out now,
Called a Grip Force Adapter.... They are worth getting by the way.
I have liked the .357 Sig for a while, my first a Sig P229 in that caliber.
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Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 19 Mar 2012, 13:05

G31 is the first Glock I ever owned; liked the gun, but the caliber never caught on with me. I liked the "idea" of the .357 Sig more than actually scrounging for super expensive ammo all the time. Eventually I got sick of looking/paying for it, traded the G31 in on a G17C and haven't looked-back since.

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We've had a gen 4 glock 19 sitting in the shop since november, and finally the other day I got sick of looking at it. I figured what the hell, I don't own a glock, they don't point naturally for me, but I still should buy it. Just waiting for my night sights, ghost 4.5 pound connector, and some extra mags to come in. I'm not against the factory trigger altogether, but I'm curious to see how the ghost connector makes it feel. I went and ordered a comp tac owb holster for it too if I ever end up carrying it. I did practice the other day just pointing and aiming with it, and I think I solved my problem I had of them never pointing naturally for me. It's not the grip angle alone that was getting me (the P7 uses the same angle and points naturally for me), it was a mix of the angle, the bump at bottom of the grip where the main spring would be if it had one, and how low the bore axis is compared to da/sa guns. Now I just have to find time to get out and shoot.

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smpsmp wrote:We've had a gen 4 glock 19 sitting in the shop since november, and finally the other day I got sick of looking at it. I figured what the hell, I don't own a glock, they don't point naturally for me, but I still should buy it. Just waiting for my night sights, ghost 4.5 pound connector, and some extra mags to come in. I'm not against the factory trigger altogether, but I'm curious to see how the ghost connector makes it feel. I went and ordered a comp tac owb holster for it too if I ever end up carrying it. I did practice the other day just pointing and aiming with it, and I think I solved my problem I had of them never pointing naturally for me. It's not the grip angle alone that was getting me (the P7 uses the same angle and points naturally for me), it was a mix of the angle, the bump at bottom of the grip where the main spring would be if it had one, and how low the bore axis is compared to da/sa guns. Now I just have to find time to get out and shoot.
Many add aftermarket parts, and some of those many end up going back to factory parts, in the end. It's nice to try. I've tried $200+ triggers in other shooters' Glocks. My Glock is tuned by me for me, with factory parts, except for a spring or two. I do have a Ghost Rocket, but do not use it in the gun. I'm sure you will like yours, and am looking forward to hearing about it. I'm glad you gave it a chance.

I am with you on the grip angle. The Glock, like many guns, points high for me. The Glock points high for many. The bump on the grip pushes the bottom of my palm; I just have to adapt to the Glock and change my grip to fit the platform. Many Glock owners send in their Glocks for the tacticool stippling and reduction, because it's the "it thing", just like high school, instead of learning how "it" works.

I bought my Glock with the reduction and stippling done to it; I don't use stippling or grip-tape on my shooting platforms, so I put electrical tape over it. However, because .357SIG is expensive, after shooting and training with ammunition I was sponsored, I shoot borrowed Glocks in competition. They are stock with the bump.

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Post by smpsmp » 26 Mar 2012, 15:42

I think with the combination of the bump, angle, and low bore axis the quickest fix is to just lift my arms up higher. It's not as natural feeling, but it works. This is one gun I plan on leaving fairly stock (except for the night sights), and I'll see how the trigger works out. I figured for the cost of the part if I don't like it then I'm not out much and I'll just karma it off here, and if I do like it then great. I'm not against the stock trigger all together, but I'm more curious then anything to see what kind of a difference it makes.

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Post by smpsmp » 30 Mar 2012, 19:28

Well I went out and shot a few hundred rounds the other night, and wasn't impressed. Every casing hit my in the forehead, top of head, in the glasses, and a few went down the back of my shirt. It was accurate enough, and glocks always surprised me there, but the whole getting hit with casings every shot sucked. I did a little research, and mine has the correct recoil spring assembly, but the old ejector. I bent my old ejector a little now, and went and test fired it and it helped a little, but still cuts it close to hitting my head. I called Glock yesterday and they told me to send it back and wouldn't sell parts to anyone who isn't a glock armorer, even said about sending the part to our shop since we have two certified gunsmiths and that wouldn't do for them. I asked a friend at the local prison to ask their armorer to order the new ejector for me and he said he would, so that's covered for now.

The trigger is a tad better with the new connector, and I'm going to keep playing with different springs as well to see what I like.

Overall, accurate, can be reliable with the right ammo and correctly designed parts, and glock's customer service is a joke. No where even close to other companies I've dealt with. I even offered to pay for the part, and that still wouldn't fly with them. I told them I'd let everyone know at our store of their service, and I've been doing my best. A few others that had to deal with them in the past said the same thing I said, basically they're useless.

It'll still end up being a carry gun, and I do like the gun itself. Just going to keep messing the trigger till I find exactly what I like, but as it is now I'm more then happy with it (I didn't expect a custom 1911 trigger going into it of course).

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smpsmp wrote:Well I went out and shot a few hundred rounds the other night, and wasn't impressed. Every casing hit my in the forehead, top of head, in the glasses, and a few went down the back of my shirt. It was accurate enough, and glocks always surprised me there, but the whole getting hit with casings every shot sucked. I did a little research, and mine has the correct recoil spring assembly, but the old ejector. I bent my old ejector a little now, and went and test fired it and it helped a little, but still cuts it close to hitting my head. I called Glock yesterday and they told me to send it back and wouldn't sell parts to anyone who isn't a glock armorer, even said about sending the part to our shop since we have two certified gunsmiths and that wouldn't do for them. I asked a friend at the local prison to ask their armorer to order the new ejector for me and he said he would, so that's covered for now.

The trigger is a tad better with the new connector, and I'm going to keep playing with different springs as well to see what I like.

Overall, accurate, can be reliable with the right ammo and correctly designed parts, and glock's customer service is a joke. No where even close to other companies I've dealt with. I even offered to pay for the part, and that still wouldn't fly with them. I told them I'd let everyone know at our store of their service, and I've been doing my best. A few others that had to deal with them in the past said the same thing I said, basically they're useless.

It'll still end up being a carry gun, and I do like the gun itself. Just going to keep messing the trigger till I find exactly what I like, but as it is now I'm more then happy with it (I didn't expect a custom 1911 trigger going into it of course).
Aw crap you bought a newer Gen 3 or Gen 4. I read up a lot on this on Glocktalk. They're all kinds of screwed up in the extractors, because Glock made the same mistake a thousand other companies made; they outsourced it to the wrong people. Ask EA, they've had issues with their contracted people.

If you want something done right... do it yourself, right :)

I'm sure EA would, if they had the time and bought he machines haha

Glock screwed up, big time. You can go on the threads and read horror story after horror story. People try changing extractors, using Lone Wolf extractors, springs, dremeling, calling Glock and sending their gun in, some getting shipping paid, some not, Glock offering to replace their entire guns for a handful depending on what time of the day is, and for others, refusing to send them the newer extractors which don't even solve the problem, anyway...

just a bunch of crap service, basically.

I don't like to bash on anyone or anything, Glock included; I'm just stating what I've seen. I've shot 3 Gen 4 9mm glocks, and they all worked fine. They must not have been part of the bad batches, because you literally see a new story pop up everyday. Unless there was a giant conspiracy to pay people to post bad experiences on Glocktalk...

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Post by brianz » 01 Apr 2012, 09:36

I guess I just have good luck with guns. I got an FsN with a great trigger and a Glock 23 Gen 4 that hasn't had a single hiccup no matter what ammo, factory or reload, I put through it.

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Post by srt-4_jon » 01 Apr 2012, 14:21

Gen 4 9mm glocks had the problem, not the 40s.

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Post by smpsmp » 01 Apr 2012, 16:45

I pretty sure I got it fixed. It's not that the gun wasn't extracting, it was just throwing them straight in my face rather then to the side. Getting hit in the forehead with brass is annoying at worst, but some hit my glasses and if I didn't have shooting glasses a few could have been right in the eye.

The problem seems to be the ejector hitting the casing almost straight on rather then to the side of the casing. I took a pair of pliers and bent it to the left (looking at it from back to front) and it's hitting the casings more to the side. I'm going to wait and see what the new ejector looks like when I get it from my friend at the prison.

I did look up and it seems Glock was replacing ejectors stamped 336 on the gen 4 9mm's with a different one stamped (I don't remember the number the now and will have to look it up), and that seems to have solved the issues (besides the initial recall on the recoil spring assembly they had).

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Tactical and Glock fanboys rejoice;

Lipsey's now has a deal with Glock to procure FDE/black models of Glocks.

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Post by smpsmp » 02 Apr 2012, 18:20

If I collected Glocks I'd buy one just because, or if I could get them at cost like I do with Bonitz Brothers I'd consider them too, but since I don't I'll stick with saving money and stick with all black. The only deciding factor would have been just because it's something different. And I'd prefer green anyway over tan. I did like the OD ones they had before, it'd be my St. Pattys Day gun, but for now the Five Seven fits that role.

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smpsmp wrote:If I collected Glocks I'd buy one just because, or if I could get them at cost like I do with Bonitz Brothers I'd consider them too, but since I don't I'll stick with saving money and stick with all black. The only deciding factor would have been just because it's something different. And I'd prefer green anyway over tan. I did like the OD ones they had before, it'd be my St. Pattys Day gun, but for now the Five Seven fits that role.
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Post by srt-4_jon » 02 Apr 2012, 20:23

blueorison wrote:Tactical and Glock fanboys rejoice;

Lipsey's now has a deal with Glock to procure FDE/black models of Glocks.

I can already here the fanboys screaming.
so everyone with a FDE FsN is a tactical fanboy? I'm not following your reasoning.

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srt-4_jon wrote:
blueorison wrote:Tactical and Glock fanboys rejoice;

Lipsey's now has a deal with Glock to procure FDE/black models of Glocks.

I can already here the fanboys screaming.
so everyone with a FDE FsN is a tactical fanboy? I'm not following your reasoning.
I'm REALLY not following YOUR reasoning, as I didn't say this at all.

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Post by blueorison » 28 Apr 2012, 14:14

The Glock pistol, stock, performs quite well. The grip does not fit my hand well, as there is a big gap in my palm and an absence of weld. But, as always, overcome and conquer! (Or, I tried my best... :lmao: )

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I started out as a serious 1911 platform nut. The Glock has replaced them for serious social wear, however. I morphed from full size to compact to mini, as I find them easier to carry.

One strange experience has recently come up that I cannot explain. I picked up a Gen 1 G17, cheap enough to buy, just because. I can blow the black out of a bull at 25 yards with my G26/27/30/35, but the full size G17 targets look like I used a shot gun with buck. It is like learning the pistol all over again. Not sure if the issue is due to the early configuration grip, or what, but it seems much more difficult to shoot well. It is a pleasant gun to shoot, but is frustrating and intriguing.

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Post by Mister Freeze » 21 May 2012, 06:16

blueorison wrote:The Glock pistol, stock, performs quite well. The grip does not fit my hand well, as there is a big gap in my palm and an absence of weld. But, as always, overcome and conquer! (Or, I tried my best... :lmao: )

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I never was a glock fan, but after getting a 3rd Gen G19 as part of a trade, I see some merits. Now actually looking for a few used/abused G17's, even willing to trade that G19. What parts, if any, are actually made of stainless steel? I know the Glock is supposed to be the AK of pistols, but unless you can eliminate rust, I don't see it being any more reliable than anything else.

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Post by MikeSantor » 11 Jun 2012, 17:09

So I was waiting and waiting for the Gen 4 g20 and or 29 to come out so I could get my first glock and first 10mm. I finally get sick of waiting and cop a g17 and less then 2 weeks later the Gen 4 10s are released... totally my luck. Looks like I will have to kick the hustle into overdrive so I can bring one of these home...

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Post by s64woody » 09 Jul 2012, 06:03

Regards the question of what parts are made of stainless steel: Maybe none. Not sure of the connector bar, but I was told that everything else was tennifer treated steel, which is pretty rust resistant in itself. If you put great huge gouges on the frame you will get some corrosion (rust), but it takes a bit of doing to get through the tennifer. By the way, the normal outside finish on the slide of the glock is not the tennifer, just another protective coating. Tennifer is basically similar to case hardening.

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Post by srt-4_jon » 09 Jul 2012, 08:03

if you gouge the frame, you will not get any corrosion.

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Post by s64woody » 09 Jul 2012, 16:46

Well, if you have ever watched the now famous G-21 abuse series, you will see that the slide will corrode once you get through the tennifer. I guess my last post might have left you with the impression I was talking about the frame... my bad.

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Post by srt-4_jon » 10 Jul 2012, 13:36

Why would I think that?
s64woody wrote:If you put great huge gouges on the frame you will get some corrosion (rust),

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Post by s64woody » 10 Jul 2012, 15:53

I blame it on writer's cramps, brain cramps, something like that.

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Post by smpsmp » 10 Jul 2012, 18:27

Could have been butt cramps too.

Finally got my new ejector too, and the G19 is no longer sending brass to the face. But that was the only thing I did to it to help with it either. It was a bunch of little things.

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smpsmp wrote:Could have been butt cramps too.

Finally got my new ejector too, and the G19 is no longer sending brass to the face. But that was the only thing I did to it to help with it either. It was a bunch of little things.
Was.. or wasn't?
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Butt cramps must be acting up again
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Post by smpsmp » 11 Jul 2012, 21:24

Yep butt cramps.

It wasn't the only "fix" I did to the G19. I originally switched out the extractor for a lone wolf one, it helped a little. Then polished the extractor plunger, it helped a little more. Then got the new ejector, and it helped a little more. With each fix I ended up with less brass to the face, and now it's running perfect.

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Post by Mister Freeze » 09 Aug 2012, 05:09

I hate to admit it, but I guess I'm a Glock convert now. I have 2 Gen3 G17's. Just one question, though...

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Why the difference? Waiting on Blue's expertise, but perhaps someone is quicker on the draw?

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Post by toyslr » 09 Aug 2012, 06:37

Crisper Mag insertion?

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Post by Mister Freeze » 09 Aug 2012, 06:45

The missing part is not quite as wide as the magwell. Blue suggested a possible mod for faster mag changes, allowing a greater insertion angle, but this is not the case. The edge is smooth and glossy as if it had been molded in rather than cut

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Post by toyslr » 09 Aug 2012, 09:43

I agree that it will or should give a more solid point for mag insertion. With the cut out it seems as though a mag could slip forward during reloading.
I'll need to look at mine and see

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Post by fooschnickens » 09 Aug 2012, 16:07

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Post by blueorison » 09 Aug 2012, 16:29

Mister Freeze wrote:The missing part is not quite as wide as the magwell. Blue suggested a possible mod for faster mag changes, allowing a greater insertion angle, but this is not the case. The edge is smooth and glossy as if it had been molded in rather than cut
It's modified. When I modify my guns with this frame cut, it is extremely difficult with the naked eye to tell that it did not come from factory as such. The polymers used in these plastic guns cut very smooth. I hardly sandpaper.
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Re: The Glock Pistol

Post by Grantness » 09 Aug 2012, 16:43

Mister Freeze wrote: I know the Glock is supposed to be the AK of pistols, but unless you can eliminate rust, I don't see it being any more reliable than anything else.
That reputation could get a lot of people killed. I had that same impression when I bought my G27. I think I've cleaned it maybe three or four times. I've been carrying it around all year figuring I was OK...but NO, big mistake. I recently discovered that almost every time I pull the slide back it locks in place and I actually have to slap it to get it to snap forward... Even happens when I shoot it... Its basically like carrying a T/C for SD at the moment... Thinking about all those times I carried it in that condition gives me the willies :cry: She's getting a good cleaning and lube job before I even think about carrying it again.

The irony is I'd always grab it when my FsN hadn't been cleaned since its last shooting cause I thought it'd be more reliable.

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Re: The Glock Pistol

Post by Mister Freeze » 09 Aug 2012, 18:45

blueorison wrote:
Mister Freeze wrote:The missing part is not quite as wide as the magwell. Blue suggested a possible mod for faster mag changes, allowing a greater insertion angle, but this is not the case. The edge is smooth and glossy as if it had been molded in rather than cut
It's modified. When I modify my guns with this frame cut, it is extremely difficult with the naked eye to tell that it did not come from factory as such. The polymers used in these plastic guns cut very smooth. I hardly sandpaper.
B- It REALLY doesn't look cut, but whatever. I've shown you mine... show me yours!

G- I have a bad habit of not cleaning my guns, but I do keep them lubed. Are you sure you don't just have a worn mag from so much carry?

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Re: The Glock Pistol

Post by Grantness » 09 Aug 2012, 18:57

Happens regardless of mag... so i'm guessing its mostly my fault.

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Post by blueorison » 09 Aug 2012, 19:07

Is your firing hand thumb riding up under the slide release while you pull the slide back?
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Re: The Glock Pistol

Post by MikeSantor » 15 Aug 2012, 16:23

Just want to report, Over 1k rounds through my G17G4 and no brass to the dome... WaHoo!

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