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.308 brakes

Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 22 Dec 2011, 00:00

I am getting a dpms LR-308 for christmas. I have not shot it yet but I know I am going to want a brake of some kind on it to reduce the recoil/muzzle climb. Any of you guys have any experience with 308 brakes? Recommendations? Noise/blast is not a concern to me.

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Re: .308 brakes

Post by Rapier1772 » 22 Dec 2011, 00:31

I asked that question here a while back for my PTR & didn't get much response. A guy at the local gun shop put a Surefire on his (I think its a DPMS). Not sure what kind he has but this is the one I ordered for mine.
http://www.surefire.com/MB762-211C-Muzzle-BrakeAdapter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I actually put off ordering it until recently & they are on back order (expect Jan). Gave them CC info & I'll know when it ships because that is when they bill me :laugh:
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Re: .308 brakes

Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 22 Dec 2011, 05:22

Rapier1772 wrote:I asked that question here a while back for my PTR & didn't get much response. A guy at the local gun shop put a Surefire on his (I think its a DPMS). Not sure what kind he has but this is the one I ordered for mine.
http://www.surefire.com/MB762-211C-Muzzle-BrakeAdapter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I actually put off ordering it until recently & they are on back order (expect Jan). Gave them CC info & I'll know when it ships because that is when they bill me :laugh:
Cool. That one would be neato if one had a can to go on the end of it.

I was looking at the Primary Weapons FCS30. I don't care for the odd look, but it seems to be effective.

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Re: .308 brakes

Post by jgreenberg01 » 22 Dec 2011, 05:56

I use a custom brake on my LR308 and unfortunately I don't have anything to compare it to, butttt...

I found that switching to a Restor hydraulic buffer was at least as effective as the brake with regard to reducing recoil.

YMMV of course.
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Re: .308 brakes

Post by srt-4_jon » 22 Dec 2011, 11:58

If you plan on hunting with it, get a removable brake.

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Re: .308 brakes

Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 22 Dec 2011, 13:29

jgreenberg01 wrote:I use a custom brake on my LR308 and unfortunately I don't have anything to compare it to, butttt...

I found that switching to a Restor hydraulic buffer was at least as effective as the brake with regard to reducing recoil.

YMMV of course.
What kind of stock does yours have? Can you get a hydraulic buffer that works with the carbine buffer tube? I am probably going to get an adjustable gas block, wouldn't that negate the effectiveness of a hydraulic buffer?

I guess I need to do some research about those things, I have never looked into them. (hydraulic buffer)
srt-4_jon wrote:If you plan on hunting with it, get a removable brake.
I wouldn't shoot it without hearing protection either way. Only way I would do that is life or death type situations.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 22 Dec 2011, 13:39

VeTTeMaNC486 wrote:
jgreenberg01 wrote:I use a custom brake on my LR308 and unfortunately I don't have anything to compare it to, butttt...

I found that switching to a Restor hydraulic buffer was at least as effective as the brake with regard to reducing recoil.

YMMV of course.
What kind of stock does yours have? Can you get a hydraulic buffer that works with the carbine buffer tube? I am probably going to get an adjustable gas block, wouldn't that negate the effectiveness of a hydraulic buffer?

I guess I need to do some research about those things, I have never looked into them. (hydraulic buffer)
The make a version for both fixed and collapsible stocks. I have a CAA stock with a monopod:

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Post by FNtacticalNUT » 22 Dec 2011, 14:57

Which Harris Bipod adapter did you use?
It is something I am looking for
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Post by jgreenberg01 » 22 Dec 2011, 15:21

Wow, the early onset Alzheimer's must be setting in. I can't remember which bipod adapter I used and I can't find the receipt, which is strange because I have like every receipt I ever got.

The scope is the one thing I really cheaped out on. My mission was to get a Nightforce but didn't have the $$$ at the time. I put on an Osprey 10-40x50 scope which is fine out to 200 yards. Any money that ended up burning in my pocket eventually went towards suppressors and ammo. If I can ever find a deal on a Nightforce, I will replace the optic.
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Post by FNtacticalNUT » 22 Dec 2011, 17:21

That sure is a sweet machine.
GREAT looking 7.62
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Post by blueorison » 23 Dec 2011, 12:19

VeTTeMaNC486 wrote:I am getting a dpms LR-308 for christmas. I have not shot it yet but I know I am going to want a brake of some kind on it to reduce the recoil/muzzle climb. Any of you guys have any experience with 308 brakes? Recommendations? Noise/blast is not a concern to me.

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Vette;

to answer your question, if you are searching for the brake that would suffocate the most felt recoil regardless of noise, etc.

Get the PWS. It's high value. And I mean, extremely high. Without machining your own, this is my suggestion. If you want a higher-dollar brake that is very effective, get a JP recoil elim.

If you want one that reduces the gas blast that won't affect you but will affect those around you, get a BC.

Hope that helps.
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Re: .308 brakes

Post by flyingirish04 » 23 Dec 2011, 22:12

Accuracy Systems Inc makes some really effective breaks. Check em out.
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Re: .308 brakes

Post by starfury » 24 Dec 2011, 10:11

Here are some interesting ones ...http://www.ar15performance.com/muzzle_devices" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: .308 brakes

Post by rotorman » 05 Jan 2012, 19:05

I put a Miculek Compensator on my LR308. It cut recoil to probably 1/3 of what it was. It's a real sweet shooter now.

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Re: .308 brakes

Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 09 Jan 2012, 11:52

Ordered the FSC30, as well as some other goodies. I hate ordering stuff online, the wait for it to arrive is KILLER. :laugh:

Thanks for the responses guys!

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Post by blueorison » 09 Jan 2012, 11:58

Congrats.

You'll like the FSC. The Miculek and JP are much louder.

Though I never cared how loud they were, haha.
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Re: .308 brakes

Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 09 Jan 2012, 14:17

Yeah I dont really care how loud it is. I almost never shoot indoors. Always were hearing protection and double up inside. The flash supression is what did it for me. If it works almost as well as the 556 version ill be pretty dang happy.

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Re: .308 brakes

Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 12 Jan 2012, 23:39

Finally came today. Was so giddy waiting all day for my box-o-goodies. :D

Muzzle break went on okay, would liked to have gotten it tighter. If it loosens I will play with the shims more I guess. One thing I noticed, the Pmags do not fit very tight in the mag well, the wobble a decent ammo. We will see how this affects function tomorrow I guess. Also, I didnt insert a fully loaded mag, but with 13 or so rounds in it, the rounds rattle like a baby's toy. I cannot say that I am overly impressed by the Pmags. They look great though :laugh: .

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Post by blueorison » 12 Jan 2012, 23:44

What do you mean tighter? You shouldn't be able to get it "tight" or "loose" if you use the crush-washers. Once you align it and leave it, it's already set at tightness. If you loosen it even a bit, throw the washer out and use a new one.

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Re: .308 brakes

Post by srt-4_jon » 13 Jan 2012, 02:06

he is using shims, not a crush washer.

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Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 13 Jan 2012, 09:13

srt-4_jon wrote:he is using shims, not a crush washer.
This. If it comes loose I'll take the smallest shim out and crank it down to alight it I guess.

Can feel a decent amount concussion. I like that. I'm wierd I guess, but I like feeling the blast from a weapon when I shoot it. Love shooting my fathers S&W .460. Talk about blast... :D

The pmag that I shot worked fine shooting off hand. The wobble still has me worried though.

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Post by blueorison » 13 Jan 2012, 10:24

VeTTeMaNC486 wrote:
srt-4_jon wrote:he is using shims, not a crush washer.
This. If it comes loose I'll take the smallest shim out and crank it down to alight it I guess.

Can feel a decent amount concussion. I like that. I'm wierd I guess, but I like feeling the blast from a weapon when I shoot it. Love shooting my fathers S&W .460. Talk about blast... :D

The pmag that I shot worked fine shooting off hand. The wobble still has me worried though.

I highly recommend using a crush-washer.

I enjoyed shooting the 2inch ported .500 S&W. Very high flip, but imparted recoil was low due to the good grips. Big fan of the .460, but I would prefer it in a carbine, being that the X frames are so darn big. Defeats the point of handguns - put it in a carbine for more velocity, capacity, accuracy, stability, modularity.
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Re: .308 brakes

Post by srt-4_jon » 13 Jan 2012, 13:09

if it loosens up, put a TINY dab of rocksett on it. crush washers work fine for flash hiders but with the tolerances being so close on a brake or suppressor, it isnt ideal.

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Post by blueorison » 13 Jan 2012, 14:33

srt-4_jon wrote:if it loosens up, put a TINY dab of rocksett on it. crush washers work fine for flash hiders but with the tolerances being so close on a brake or suppressor, it isnt ideal.
If you say so :)

I use crush-washers to tune the gas vectors in my brakes.

To each his own, so it seems.

Just use loctite if it comes loose.
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Post by srt-4_jon » 13 Jan 2012, 15:04

thats why the brake ships with shims. it needs to time itself off the flat shoulder. with a crush washer there is no certainty that it will be square when you set it. it is really important with suppressors.

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Post by blueorison » 13 Jan 2012, 15:16

Good info, thanks, Jon!
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Re: .308 brakes

Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 14 Jan 2012, 13:36

blueorison wrote:
VeTTeMaNC486 wrote:
srt-4_jon wrote:he is using shims, not a crush washer.
This. If it comes loose I'll take the smallest shim out and crank it down to alight it I guess.

Can feel a decent amount concussion. I like that. I'm wierd I guess, but I like feeling the blast from a weapon when I shoot it. Love shooting my fathers S&W .460. Talk about blast... :D

The pmag that I shot worked fine shooting off hand. The wobble still has me worried though.

I highly recommend using a crush-washer.

I enjoyed shooting the 2inch ported .500 S&W. Very high flip, but imparted recoil was low due to the good grips. Big fan of the .460, but I would prefer it in a carbine, being that the X frames are so darn big. Defeats the point of handguns - put it in a carbine for more velocity, capacity, accuracy, stability, modularity.
I agree about the size of the xframe, but fail to see the point of it in a rifle. I have a 18.5" 45-70, what would the 460 gain over this?

The 500 in a lever gun would be pretty fun on the other hand....

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Re: .308 brakes

Post by blueorison » 14 Jan 2012, 19:03

Not much, really, but it might have faster follow-up shots.
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