Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Concern

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Post by SoCal Gunner » 19 Feb 2011, 15:27

Hey guys,

What's the current status on the Accurizing service? I can't take this trigger any more and I'm planning on buying a new toy, so it will be easier to live without my 5.7 for a while.

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Post by panzermk2wife » 19 Feb 2011, 15:50

I sent out the 2nd set of 5 emails last Sunday
The next 5 go out on Sunday
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Post by Straight-G » 19 Feb 2011, 16:47

Hi Lisa,

Can you please send me a link to a page that describes what you do to the gun to accurize it? How many pounds is the trigger pull before and after the accurizing?

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Post by SoCal Gunner » 19 Feb 2011, 17:10

panzermk2wife wrote:I sent out the 2nd set of 5 emails last Sunday
The next 5 go out on Sunday
OK, searching around, it sounds like you have a list established and people send their firearms in when prompted? What kind of wait time are we talking about for the list (I know, I know, just an estimate/ in general)?

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Post by panzermk2wife » 19 Feb 2011, 17:13

I have been sending out to 5 people every couple of weeks or so
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Post by panzermk2 » 20 Feb 2011, 22:05

Straight-G wrote:Hi Lisa,

Can you please send me a link to a page that describes what you do to the gun to accurize it? How many pounds is the trigger pull before and after the accurizing?

Thanks,
Alan

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Post by Aegweil » 22 Feb 2011, 10:20

As for the number of rounds before the trigger work... I sent mine in a year ago without me having fired the weapon at all, had it less than 1 hour. As for the comments on the work, the BEST money I have spent on a weapon modification EVER!!!. Normal you can feel a "break" when the trigger "fires", but after the work, even a year later and 1500 rounds, it is still as smooth as glass and new (to the 57) still cannot feel the break, even though they can feel it on their own weapon. For any fence sitters, I highly recommend the work and the Night Sights. I have had nothing but praise when people have compared a modified and my weapon side by side.

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Post by panzermk2wife » 24 Feb 2011, 08:26

Awesome review :clap:

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Post by SHEEPDOG » 24 Feb 2011, 22:55

Mine went out today. I shot Blues at our recent shoot and had to get mine done.

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Post by panzermk2wife » 24 Feb 2011, 23:06

swe123 wrote:Mine went out today. I shot Blues at our recent shoot and had to get mine done.
Can you please send me the tracking number so I know when to expect it
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Post by fatherfoof » 25 Feb 2011, 00:35

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Post by 32blownhemi » 07 Jun 2011, 16:43

Hi, how do I go about getting this done? Just got my 5 7 last week & only have 200 rd's through it. I love it! BUT, don't like the 'slack' in the trigger! Also, night sights! Thanks, Bill

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Post by Rapier1772 » 07 Jun 2011, 19:32

32blownhemi wrote:Hi, how do I go about getting this done? Just got my 5 7 last week & only have 200 rd's through it. I love it! BUT, don't like the 'slack' in the trigger! Also, night sights! Thanks, Bill
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Post by eVenom » 07 Jun 2011, 22:12

NOOB Alert!!! :)

I have been reading on this and have a bunch of questions.

Will this affect reliability in any way?
Long term Performance?
Safety?
is this just for competition?
do you recommend it for SD, HD and CCW?
why is this called Acurizing if this is trigger work

a few more on what is listed on the website. :ponder:
This is what the website list and my thought on what they mean.

Removal of magazine safety == is this the ability to pull the trigger with no magazine? why does so many people ask to keep it that now you offer it as a option?

Smoothing of the hammer to sear contact. Greatly improves trigger action and creates a crisp release == I realy don't understand what you mean by crisper?

Reducing trigger pull by 50% == you only need to pull the trigger half of the distance. is this in takeup or overtravel?

Increase hammer spring pre-load 20-30% for crisper disconnect == Again I dont really understand what crisper means. does this reduces uptake or makes the trigger lighter?

Chamber lapping. Aids in extraction and protection of coating on brass == extract the brass better and in doesent damage it as much.

Polish and Tune extractor == ???? what does this do for me?

Polishing and Fitting (too much to list) and a detailed cleaning including correct lubrication == I don't need a list but don't get what it does for me?

Each gun is tested to deliver a 4-pound trigger pull before leaving the shop == how many pounds is the regular trigger pull?

I understand that some things are hard to explain but I want to know if this is something I want to put money on it
Sorry for all the noob questions.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 07 Jun 2011, 23:55

I could've sworn we an entire thread dedicated to questions like this :ponder: Where did it go? I looked so I am not going to fault eVenom; but I will note that the info is out there, somewhere :D I am trying to go off memory on these so if I am off base on anything, EA (or anyone who knows) please let me know.

Will this affect reliability in any way? No, if anything it will make it more reliable since they increase the tension on the hammer spring which gives even stubborn primers a reason to fire.

Long term Performance? Mine is going on 2.5 years w/a couple thousand rounds (including some hot reloads) and no problems.

Safety? No effect on safety

Is this just for competition? No. While there is some debate about using a modified pistol for self defense (depending on who you talk to), in my state (Idaho) they only care if it is a justified shooting. The easier operation also translates into more accurate follow up shots as needed. If you hunt with your FsN, it could help you there as well.

Do you recommend it for SD, HD and CCW? Absolutely, my Accurized FsN is my primary CCW.

Why is this called Acurizing if this is trigger work? Because they work on more than just the trigger & you will notice a change in your accuracy.

Removal of magazine safety: Yes, it is the safety mechanism which keeps you from firing a round unless there is a magazine inserted. Some states require a magazine safety but it will effect the trigger pull. It will be a lighter pull without the mag safety but check your state laws.

Smoothing of the hammer to sear contact. I realy don't understand what you mean by crisper? Get it done, you will notice a change. IIRC, mine felt like it had a very slight double click as I squeezed the trigger before I had it done. If you were really paying attention when dry firing you may even feel a little movement like metal on metal but you had to be trying to feel it. Afterwards, it was no extra room for movement, no clicks, just boom.

Reducing trigger pull by 50%: Trigger pull refers to the pressure applied to the trigger. The pressure needed in order to fire the gun will be about half of what it is from the factory. This will effect your accuracy as well. I think the factory pull weight is about 6.5 pounds but EA's is between 3-4 pounds.

Polishing and Fitting (too much to list) and a detailed cleaning including correct lubrication: Guns come from the factory built to certain specs. Not all of the surfaces are polished and sometimes there is some play in the joints. Detailed cleaning gets the debris you miss in standard cleaning. If you're going to send your gun in to get torn apart & revamped, you may as well have them clean & lube it :laugh: Easier to work with that way anyway (at least mine is)

Will this void the warranty? how big of a deal is this? Will this affect the ability to get support by FN? As per panzermk2 - The official corp policy is YES. This is also the same for every single other maker. Have a Colt with a crappy trigger, have it worked on? Voids the warranty.
Now that being said there has been a person or two that has buggered up their guns on their own AFTER EA worked on them and FNH still warrantied them.
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Post by panzermk2 » 08 Jun 2011, 09:39

:thumb: What he said.
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Post by 32blownhemi » 08 Jun 2011, 19:51

Thank you Rapier1772!!! ;) BIll

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Post by eVenom » 08 Jun 2011, 21:43

Time to start saving my change...

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Post by eVenom » 09 Jun 2011, 00:28

a couple more questions

Will this VOID the warranty? how big of a deal is this?


Will this affect the ability to get support by FN?

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