EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by dwk5150 » 27 May 2011, 08:15

I want one!

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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by Grantness » 27 May 2011, 08:18

Soon as I get one and finger out how to install it, I'll start posting new load data in case there's a difference...

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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by romer522 » 27 May 2011, 08:20

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romer522 wrote:Jay, could you reiterate the implications of the HD spring when using a suppressor? :thumb:
They work with 5.5SS already without a can. When you install a can you raise the back pressure.

So in other words, HD spring is good for suppressed use because it resists the extra back pressure, right?


If so, would you guys consider like a 22 lb spring for peoples threaded barrels?

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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by panzermk2 » 27 May 2011, 09:35

Nope there would be cycling issues. The can increases pressure but only slightly no where near full power loads. Plus there are other issues, you are dealing with a blow back system and unlike a browning system there are many other things that have to be taken into consideration when increasing the spring rate. Plus on the FsN the springs has to be able to fit inside the barrel shroud.
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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by panzermk2wife » 29 May 2011, 21:05

They are up on the website

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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by bobapunk » 30 May 2011, 13:53

When I read this, I wanted one of course.

Then I asked myself if I really "need" it.

Then I read this, "brass only fly's about 5 feet instead of 15 to 20".

Yep, I defiantly need one!

ETA: Just ordered one and when I was done it said "Your order will ship out in 4 to 6 weeks"...? Is that for real or is that for ammunition only??
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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by MikeSantor » 30 May 2011, 14:41

im sure thats just an automated message that goes out for everything considering 99.9% of the stuff they sell is ammunition. For the same reason that when I went to order the spring it said that it cant be shipped to Cook County. Now Cook County DOES blow, but im pretty sure they have not banned springs yet. Its all just automated.

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Post by panzermk2wife » 30 May 2011, 14:44

I do the website

Just about everything outside the ammunition is in stock.
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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by bobapunk » 30 May 2011, 15:15

Lisa, so that means that my spring will ship on Friday?

Also, I was wondering about FOID laws. I have mail ordered ammo before and from some places you need a FOID while others do not seem to care. Is there something in the law that makes it different if you have a physical presence in the state of Illinois?
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Post by panzermk2 » 30 May 2011, 15:23

Nope the other places are screwing up BIG TIME by not asking for a copy of you FOID card.
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Post by bobapunk » 30 May 2011, 18:44

It has been a pain since I moved. I updated my address with the Ill. State Police and they told me not to bother with getting a new card until I had to renew. This caused major issues with Gander Mtn and Cabela's; but no local shop even questioned it.

I am mailing in my renewal tomorrow, so as soon as I get my new FOID card things should be smoother.
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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by bobapunk » 08 Jun 2011, 05:26

Got my spring the other day. I have not looked yet, but how hard is this to install? Is there just a snap ring or something holding the spring on the barrel?
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Post by panzermk2 » 08 Jun 2011, 09:28

I still need to make the vid. It's easy yet tricky.
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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by fzr confused » 08 Jun 2011, 10:00

So you guys brass is only flying 15-20ft??? My s4 brass flies a good 35-40! I will def be getting one of these once you have some more s4m's in stock. Just placed an order yesterday otherwise I would have added it then.

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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by panzermk2 » 08 Jun 2011, 22:19

Installation vid added
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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by Grantness » 21 Jun 2011, 14:58

Just installed my new EA Recoil Spring....and damn am I happy! :monkey: :monkey: Took me about 5 minutes to put it on. I'd recommend a good cleaning and lube job while you're at it...

I fired 30 rnds of Blue Box SS195 from a 30rnd extended mag w/ the EA mag spring. Did not have the time to set up the chrono today, just checking for function. The first three rounds had trouble feeding. The slide would get stuck about half and inch out. After clearing and checking everything... I fired the rest without indecent. Even tried some rapid fire. No problems.

First thing I noticed was a definite increase in recoil w/ those wimpy blue box SS195's. As advertised, the cases only flew 5 yards AT MOST. Usually less. I am more than impressed.

Another success for Elite Ammunition! :clap:

Can't wait to try out a whole new set of reloads and see what this baby can REALLY do :ponder: :D

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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by Grantness » 21 Jun 2011, 15:25

...oh, when I was at Lowes getting some supplies I asked the guy if he had the right kind of pliers that I needed. He asked me what it was for, so I showed him the barrel. Guy whips out a knife and proceeds to take the spring off. Almost had a panic attack. Bastard took a knife to my baby w/o my permission. ...BUT, I'll give him this. He got it off, didn't scratch or break it, and there was one less tool I needed to buy!

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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by Prepper » 21 Jun 2011, 16:08

Just to clarify, recoil will be more or less with the new springs I ordered from EA? :ponder:
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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by Grantness » 21 Jun 2011, 16:15

I felt more recoil... More velocity for sure, and the brass doesn't go as far.

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Re: EA FsN Heavy Duty 20 pound Recoil Spring.

Post by Grantness » 22 Jun 2011, 13:19

Took my new EA Fiveseven Recoil Spring for a test drive today.

Blue Box ~27gr SS195: 1883, 1872, 1888, 1907, 1910 AVG: 1892fps

40gr Nosler Ballistic Silver Tip, Blue Dot: 6.7gr, OAL: 1.180" CCI 400 Primer

1875, 1899, 1918, 1921, 1940 AVG: 1910.6fps

Checking back on my old notes, I had an average of about 1890fps for that same load with a regular 40gr Nosler Ballistic Tip. It struck me as odd that the rounds tended to increase in velocity the more I shot... :?: Probably a fluke. Not a large enough sample size yet to make a definitive assessment.

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