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Re: A place for questions

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 13:08
by Mister Freeze
I've had to use both primaries snd rechargables: on the fly, sometimes you just have to get some off the shelf. I found the Ultrafire ss host for $24, so cheap enough to be worth it.

25%, 100%, and strobe (in that order)
7000k white bordering on blue
All modes regulated. I eagerly await your findings!

Apart from the bling, this should be quite a light!

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 13:25
by blueorison
Yes, the bigger light is rated for 2 batts.

I looked it up, and I was wrong, they were only $9.

UltraFire 300Lm CREE C8 Q5 5 Mode LED Flashlight Torch(White/Blue/Warm white)
- Light Color: White
- Color: silver

I don't have calibers, but I have a... ruler? :D

So basically, Mike, none of the rechargeable batteries will work? They don't have any for CR123A's?

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 13:54
by MikeSantor
Mister Freeze wrote:I've had to use both primaries snd rechargables: on the fly, sometimes you just have to get some off the shelf. I found the Ultrafire ss host for $24, so cheap enough to be worth it.

25%, 100%, and strobe (in that order)
7000k white bordering on blue
All modes regulated. I eagerly await your findings!

Apart from the bling, this should be quite a light!
Mission successful. Sending you a PM freeze...




If you dont like the shininess you can send the host to me and I can throw it in my media tumbler and give it a nice tumbled finish? Its great to hide scratches. I have about $800 bucks in different tumbling media...

blueorison wrote:Yes, the bigger light is rated for 2 batts.

I looked it up, and I was wrong, they were only $9.

UltraFire 300Lm CREE C8 Q5 5 Mode LED Flashlight Torch(White/Blue/Warm white)
- Light Color: White
- Color: silver

I don't have calibers, but I have a... ruler? :D

So basically, Mike, none of the rechargeable batteries will work? They don't have any for CR123A's?
Yup, that light is rated up to 9v.

These batteries should work but with out calipers there is no way to find out on your end.
http://www.lighthound.com/AW-RCR123a-Pr ... p_114.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Your best bet is to get an 18650. The light will be brighter and have longer run time and that light says the host fits them. That is the ticket man. Screw the RCR123s...

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 14:10
by blueorison
Yeah, Mike. I'm thinking, just get the 18650 for the big lights, and say screw it on the rechargeable batteries for the TLR-1s. They don't recommend them and it just isn't worth it to risk overloading the light though Streamlight was great about fixing it the last time it broke due to recoil. I'll just buy regular CR123A's.

Do you know if the Ultrafire already has an aspherical reflector in it? I'm no expert and can't tell from just looking.

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 16:14
by MikeSantor
Ooo I was confused. I thought you meant the rechargables didn't fit in the big light. I read it wrong. You meant they didnt fit in the streamlight. I understand now.

The rechargables will fry the TLR1. You have to stick with primaries.

Primaries for the TLR1 and 18650 for the big light.


Which ultrafire are you talking about with an aspheric? Your not talking about the one you posted are you? there are a lot of different ultrafire lights. I do believe they sell some with asperics.

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 16:38
by blueorison
Yeah! I got it, now. Primaries with TLR so I don't fry it; and the 18650 for the big light.

It is this one http://www.amazon.com/UltraFire-300Lm-5 ... B005CFULY8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Can you tell if it uses an aspheric reflector or not? The beam seems pretty tight but there is a large, dim, halo around the tight beam.

What's a good rechargeable 18650 battery brand?

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 16:51
by MikeSantor
No thats a regular lens with smooth reflector.

Go with AW. this:

http://www.lighthound.com/AW-18650-Prot ... _3954.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 17:53
by blueorison
MikeSantor wrote:No thats a regular lens with smooth reflector.

Go with AW. this:

http://www.lighthound.com/AW-18650-Prot ... _3954.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ok, Mike. I went out and read a bunch of info on aspheric lenses. I guess the conundrum comes down to if the measurements are right, so that the lens can actually focus the light and not make it fuzzy. So far, this is my understanding of it, so if I'm wrong, please correct me.

Based on this, I realized that the smaller light that I used for caving had an aspheric lens in it. I think. When you push the head out, the light focuses into a tight beam, and projects the LED (it looks squarish and lego-like) onto the surface.

I'm going to get the battery. Should be able to take this light outdoors, in the future, for longer reach.

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 18:12
by MikeSantor
You have it exactly right blue. Ash's kit screws onto the pill of a drop in so it can be focused. The beam is the most focused when the square projection of the LED is the most crisp and clear.

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 18:20
by Mister Freeze
From what I've seen, don't most of these LED's have some sort of bubble lens directly on them? What kind of beam would they have without that?

Host ordered. Aspheric kit ordered. Up to $80...

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 18:39
by blueorison
MikeSantor wrote:You have it exactly right blue. Ash's kit screws onto the pill of a drop in so it can be focused. The beam is the most focused when the square projection of the LED is the most crisp and clear.
Ok, Mike, so what do I have to do to get this bad boy to be the best long ranger thrower I can get it.

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 03:00
by Mister Freeze
I think Blue needs what I'm building. Adding an aspheric kit would do a lot of good, and upgrading from 300lm would do more.

This is what I currently use

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-84LDD1M ... ata_player" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 15:14
by blueorison
Ok, I did a little homework, and this is what came back;

"DealExtreme and Manafont have some, just be sure about the diameter of the original lens and search for an aspheric with the same diameter. The reflector is not the lens."

It is time for me to finally get a good pair of calipers.

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 16:58
by MikeSantor
blueorison wrote:
MikeSantor wrote:You have it exactly right blue. Ash's kit screws onto the pill of a drop in so it can be focused. The beam is the most focused when the square projection of the LED is the most crisp and clear.
Ok, Mike, so what do I have to do to get this bad boy to be the best long ranger thrower I can get it.
Freeze is right. He is building a pretty bad ars thrower. You would be doing EXTREMELY well getting what he is getting.
Mister Freeze wrote:From what I've seen, don't most of these LED's have some sort of bubble lens directly on them? What kind of beam would they have without that?

Host ordered. Aspheric kit ordered. Up to $80...
The LEDs come with a dome. You can De Dome them and get a little more throw but the led CAN burn out suddenly and it WILL shorten the life of it. A lot of people De Dome the SST90 LED. They actually just made a De Domed SST90 called the SBT90. Another really good LED for throw. Lots of heat through. Not too good in the small form factor of the p60.

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 17:07
by blueorison
Thanks for the info, Mike.

And Freeze, for doing the work for me :)

I'll check out your light after you're done with it!

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 17:12
by MikeSantor
Yea, Sorry for the delay. Thurs-Sundays are my hell days at work. Get your questions in before thursdays :)

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 17:20
by Mister Freeze
OK battery questions. My Sparker came with a single 18650 and an adaptor for 3xAAA batteries. From what I understand, 2xCR123's= 1x18650. Does that also mean 2xcr123=3xAAA? I have several 3xAAA lights (cheapies w/30x conventional LED's); can I put 18650's or CR123's in them?

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 17:31
by MikeSantor
What do you mean by =?

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 17:51
by Rapier1772
Whatz the best flashlight for taking out bear & cougar?
I go out hiking in the mountains & there is a chance I could ran across them. I needz to be ablez to fryz them in a momentz notize.

Re: A place for questions

Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 17:54
by PainKillaX
Rapier1772 wrote:Whatz the best flashlight for taking out bear & cougar?
I go out hiking in the mountains & there is a chance I could ran across them. I needz to be ablez to fryz them in a momentz notize.
Do you mean either or? Like one at a time, either a bear, or a cougar? Or both at once, like a bear from the left and a cougar from the right? Or them together, like a Bougar (TM) or maybe like a totem pole where the cougar is on the bear's shoulders? We can't help if you aren't specific.