No knives in Philly; guns are OK, though...

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No knives in Philly; guns are OK, though...

Post by TEKTITE » 02 Apr 2009, 05:12

Philadelphia, City of Brotherly Love- You can carry your gun, but don't let them catch you with a pocketknife...

From the The Philadelphia Code

§ 10-820. Cutting Weapons in Public Places. 189

(1) Definition.

Cutting Weapon. Any knife or other cutting instrument which can be used as a weapon that has a cutting edge similar to that of a knife. No tool or instrument commonly or ordinarily used in a trade, profession or calling shall be considered a cutting weapon while actually being used in the active exercise of that trade, profession or calling.

(2) Prohibited Conduct. No person shall use or possess any cutting weapon upon the public streets or upon any public property at any time.

(3) Penalty. The penalty for violation of this Section shall be a fine of not less than
three hundred (300) dollars and imprisonment of not less than ninety days.

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Post by Wollychop » 02 Apr 2009, 05:14

looks like they took a page from London's play book.

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Post by Llagoud » 02 Apr 2009, 05:23

Insane.

No tool or instrument commonly or ordinarily used in a trade, profession or calling shall be considered a cutting weapon while actually being used in the active exercise of that trade, profession or calling.
And how is one to transport said trade/profession/calling tools?

Remember the kid that got reamed because school parking lot security saw a box cutter from his after-school job in his car?
The cost of fighting a charge will be prohibitively expensive.

:(

is the fine compounded if you tell an insensitive joke while in possession of an evil bladed cutting weapon?


On the side.....the bosses partner noticed my pocket knife in a meeting and asked the bossman "do all your reps carry weapons?"
I showed him the 'print' of the BE .40 and did my best Crocodile Dundee "That's not a weapon. THAT"S a weapon"
That was the end of discussion too.

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Post by TEKTITE » 02 Apr 2009, 05:36

Time to join...

http://www.kniferights.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thank God that outdoor cafes's are private property; imagine slicing into your steak, and looking up into the barrel of a LEO's weapon. :wall:

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Post by Llagoud » 02 Apr 2009, 05:42

Ah but the 'pointy' knives are unnecessary. Just a slightly serrated yet dull edge and rounded nose is all thats needed .....

All the Brit doctors and chefs say so ;)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/may/2 ... dprobation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by TEKTITE » 02 Apr 2009, 05:48

Llagoud wrote:Ah but the 'pointy' knives are unnecessary. Just a slightly serrated yet dull edge and rounded nose is all thats needed .....
All the Brit doctors and chefs say so ;)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/may/2 ... dprobation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah, but notice they only say "cutting edge" in Phila.. I guess that means the gangbangers can still carry screwdrivers for muggings. :guns:

They'll eliminate the "stabbings" in the UK, then when "slashings" are the leading cause of *whatever*, the cutting edge is next. Gotta' admire Philly; they went right to the edge... :rules:

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Post by Llagoud » 02 Apr 2009, 06:02

Would the jawbone of an ass be an edged weapon? :ponder:


edit: they better get on this one> Judges 15:15

And he found a new jawbone of an ass, and put forth his hand, and took it, and slew a thousand men therewith.

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Post by Cyberfly » 02 Apr 2009, 06:16

Boneheads.
Methinks somebody watched a video of those Philipino knife fighters...
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Post by TEKTITE » 02 Apr 2009, 06:33

Llagoud wrote:Would the jawbone of an ass be an edged weapon? :ponder:

Sharp tongues are next on the list. :gavel:

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Post by TEKTITE » 02 Apr 2009, 06:48

Quote from another forum on a possibie scenario (sharp tongue-in-cheek). Just imagine:

"Philly Cop: "Hey, that's a nice 50 Cal. Desert Eagle riding on your hip."
Philly Citizen: "Thanks."
Philly Cop: "...and two spare mags... cool. Well, have a nice... wait a second... is that a miniature Swiss Army knife on your key chain?"
Philly Citizen: "Sure is."
Philly Cop: "I'm gonna have to cite you for that. Let's see some ID."
Philly Citizen: "But... I have a valid LTCF."
Philly Cop: "Not for the pistol, for the KNIFE! Those knives are dangerous weapons! They're illegal!!" "

I wonder? If I sharpen the edge of the belt clip on my Kel-Tec, would that make my gun illegal? :ponder:

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Post by Rapier1772 » 02 Apr 2009, 07:15

I've heard of knives being illegal if the blades are over a certain length but illegal period? :wall: I'd ask where their brains are but I doubt they have any
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Post by ChuckD » 02 Apr 2009, 09:52

This amazes me.
I wonder if this is actually enforced?

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Post by fatherfoof » 02 Apr 2009, 10:12

Philly has great cops and idiot politicians. While it is absurd, no cop will enforce it unless the thing is being used in a crime.
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Post by TEKTITE » 02 Apr 2009, 10:48

Medula Oblongata wrote:Don't be so sure, JD. I've had guys I've worked with arrest people for spitting in the street...
Sometimes there are those badge heavy pricks who will look for any excuse to pinch someone.
I've even seen some of my co-workers make arrests for riding a bicycle on a sidewalk...
Case in point, True story- California: A friend was riding his Segway, and was stopped. Arrested for carrying a Spyderco knockoff. Convicted of carring a "switchbalde or gravity knife" because the arresting officer was able to flick open the knife with one hand; a felony conviction.
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Post by fatherfoof » 02 Apr 2009, 10:57

MO. obviously you're correct. We've seen guys who never should be on the job. I just figure that type would already be able to find a law to abuse. You know me, though. I always look to give LE the best light.
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Post by TEKTITE » 02 Apr 2009, 11:03

fatherfoof wrote:MO. obviously you're correct. We've seen guys who never should be on the job. I just figure that type would already be able to find a law to abuse. You know me, though. I always look to give LE the best light.
Nothing wrong with that...Pop is a retired trooper & Chief. But like MO says, some guys should not be on the job. Some of the stories Pop's told me... :eek:

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Post by fatherfoof » 02 Apr 2009, 11:28

TK you can be proud of your dad. He probably was during the era I was a trooper in PA. Jersey had a reputation as having the toughest troopers in the country. We'd meet them for breakfast, and they were almost all marines fresh back from Nam.
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Post by TEKTITE » 02 Apr 2009, 11:47

fatherfoof wrote:TK you can be proud of your dad. He probably was during the era I was a trooper in PA. Jersey had a reputation as having the toughest troopers in the country. We'd meet them for breakfast, and they were almost all marines fresh back from Nam.

Thanks for that. Yeah, there were dents in the garage wall from when I got outta' line as a teen. :D

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Post by Mister Freeze » 02 Apr 2009, 13:23

Where do bayonets fit in?

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Post by Vortec MAX » 02 Apr 2009, 18:07

I carry a knife always! To church, to school, to boy scout meetings, it doesn't matter. I only leave it in the car or home if I plan to go through a metal detector at the courthouse or airport. And I'm not talking about a miniature swiss army knife.

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