Shooting EA Ammo (and others) Into Clay Blocks

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Shooting EA Ammo (and others) Into Clay Blocks

Post by jgreenberg01 » 12 Apr 2011, 15:46

Ok, so I was on my way home from work this evening and I noticed a Hobby Lobby (a crafts superstore) and I said to myself, I said:

"Self..."

Then I said:

"What?"

"Let's have some fun at the range tomorrow"

Ok, with all these posts about the elusive "stopping power" (or lack thereof) and people trying to equate the 5.7 round to a 22mag, I figured I would try something that I have not seen anyone shoot at yet. I picked up four 25lb bricks of very dense modeling clay. I'm limited to 4 shots and I was thinking S5, ProtecTOR1 and for a baseline Speer Gold Dot 9mm and Federal Hydra-Shock 45acp.

I picked those 2 non-5.7 rounds as a baseline because most people are familiar with them. I could eliminate one of them and use SS197 in it's place, but I'm not sure anyone cares how that round performs. After shooting the clay bricks I will slice them in half using a wire or fishing line to view the wound channels and compare them side-by-side. Of course I will video tape the whole thing and post it regardless of the outcome (I don't expect any of the rounds to completely penetrate these things).

I'm writing this in advance because I was wondering if anyone here has any suggestions regarding the rounds to use or have any other input. I know it's short notice but I will be doing this in about 14 hours from posting this.

I should have the video editing finished within 24 hours and depending on whether or not youtube is cooperating, should have it uploaded within 48 hours after this post at the latest.
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Post by f3rr37 » 12 Apr 2011, 15:49

I can't wait!

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Post by cHaMeLeoN352 » 12 Apr 2011, 15:58

Hell yeah! I look forward to the results...

It's times like these that I miss living on a farm in FL where I can shoot whatever and whenever I desire. Now, I'm reduced to an urban townhouse with no land :suicide:

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Post by Mister Freeze » 12 Apr 2011, 16:24

I've shot 10lb blocks of modeling clay before. VERY COOL. .45 and .40 HP's baloon the blocks well, and you can reach in and pluck out the slug. 9mm HP's go thru, but only 10 feet beyond. What you're left with is the expanded part you see in gel videos before they collapse back in on themselves. I've also seen it done with 5gal buckets filled with the stuff. Video if you can!

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Post by PainKillaX » 12 Apr 2011, 16:54

SWEET!!! And when you're done squish it back together and use 197 :D

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Post by Buffman » 12 Apr 2011, 17:24

how much does a 25 lb block of clay cost? I've always wanted to use some, but never really see any places around that would sell them.

I have access to a 22 mag autloader (6" barrel) and could run some tests with that.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 12 Apr 2011, 17:43

Buffman wrote:how much does a 25 lb block of clay cost? I've always wanted to use some, but never really see any places around that would sell them.

I have access to a 22 mag autloader (6" barrel) and could run some tests with that.
They were $14.99 each. I'm sure they are available much cheaper if one shops around, but my car kinda steered itself into the parking lot...
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Post by Buffman » 12 Apr 2011, 17:46

interesting we have a hobby lobby. I thought they might have been more expensive. I might have to pick up some

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 12 Apr 2011, 17:57

I got the air dry version - you have to keep it cool and moist in order to reuse them. There is the fire-dry clay that was in the $25 range that I assume can you don't have to worry about it drying out, but I prefer to save some money for ammo...
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Post by blueorison » 12 Apr 2011, 18:29

INITIATIVE.

I am speaking to another forum member that is also performing a test, very soon, on household barriers.

I am thinking of making Custom Blue pins for Legits. I been able to obtain a special Blue FN pin for a very legit company...

but it was from a custom batch that is no longer made :(
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Post by jgreenberg01 » 13 Apr 2011, 17:54

Ok, went to the range and did 3 of the 4 tests because I had an issue with the 9mm. The results are interesting if you can get through the video. If I can keep the clay from drying up I will redo it with the 9mm and SS197 in a couple of weeks. I will also try doubling up on the clay because everything but the ProtecTOR penetrated the whole block.

Here's the video, and it's in 720p if you have the patience to wait for it to load. Oh, and just ignore the opening silliness, it took a looong time to render that scene so I feel obligated to use it :laugh:

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Post by eddie » 13 Apr 2011, 18:17

thanks for the video. i enjoyed it....and learned a lot.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 13 Apr 2011, 18:34

Cool vid, looks like fun :D Love the "no objects were harmed" :lmao:
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Post by f3rr37 » 13 Apr 2011, 19:33

Very informative, well done!

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Post by panzermk2 » 13 Apr 2011, 19:43

Can Lisa add this to our EA video page on our website?
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Post by PainKillaX » 13 Apr 2011, 19:45

Suh-weet! Thank you sir! I really didn't think the .45 would come close to being matched after it was cut up but wow!

So the 5.7 makes an ever so slightly less big hole, but with the benefit of increased capacity and accuracy, faster follow up shots, less weight, and less recoil. FsN, I love you a little more each day.

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Post by Zhurdan » 13 Apr 2011, 20:23

Why not shoot it with a 22 mag, side by side with the.5.7 stuff? wouldn't that be a more effective test to show the.haters?

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Post by iFire » 13 Apr 2011, 20:24

Like the vid :thumb: The music at the end really made me happy :laugh:

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Post by blueorison » 13 Apr 2011, 20:38

I don't think on this forum we really care about the haters...
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Post by panzermk2wife » 13 Apr 2011, 20:58

Zhurdan wrote:Why not shoot it with a 22 mag, side by side with the.5.7 stuff? wouldn't that be a more effective test to show the.haters?
What would be the point? They would say it was fake anyway :facepalm:

Neat video :thumb:
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