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Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 12:30
by blueorison
uh yeah.

That's really bad.

Because that's exactly how I shoot a shotgun rapidly.

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 12:37
by PainKillaX
I've never tried it with my Mossy...Is it significantly faster? Is it bad for the gun?

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 12:48
by blueorison
PainKillaX wrote:I've never tried it with my Mossy...Is it significantly faster? Is it bad for the gun?
No and No.

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 16:44
by Llagoud
when asked about this, Kel-Tec reps have said that the “LEO Models” (which are presently vaporware) will slamfire and the “civilian” models are the ones at the show. So, yes you read that correctly: Kel-Tec is saying that a slamfiring shotgun is a “feature” that will be marketed to LEOs. Meanwhile, the “civilian” version will apparently retain its functionally broken trigger.
http://gunnuts.net/2011/01/21/shot-show-shotgun-update/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 16:50
by Rapier1772
Thanks Llagoud

Ok you smithies - can that be fixed easy enough? (Normally speaking - obviously no one has worked on these yet)

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 18:53
by MrSlippyFist
Yet another reason I will avoid Kel-Tec.

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 19:13
by panzermk2
How often do you need to slam fire? Heck get an old Winchester trench shotty for about 200 bucks if you want to do that.

Also a shotgun action isn't exactly rocket science. Should take you about 10 minutes to switch over to slam fire.

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 22 Jan 2011, 09:12
by Captan Harold D
I DIG

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 22 Jan 2011, 16:55
by Mister Freeze
I got a letter from Kel Tec today. MSRP is $880. Those that have alredy placed an order, what are you expecting to pay? If the BATFE comes thru, I'll be able to trade my S12 for 2 of these bad boys!

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 22 Jan 2011, 20:12
by SeaHawkDriver-B
Large gun-show in my area today, plenty of Saiga-12's left on the table at the end of the first day, sticker price was $475. Obviously the recent BATFE regs are almost unheard-of among the average gun-going public, i was shocked.

On the other hand, glocks were flying off the table. Largest display said he had sold everything except his GEN IV's.

I thought about picking up a Saiga, but decided against it when I saw how many were just sitting there, no one thinks they're going away.

$880 is a bit steep for a pump shotgun, its only novelty is two tube-mags instead of one... how about 550-650, seems more reasonable.

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 23 Jan 2011, 13:54
by fooschnickens
SeaHawkDriver-B wrote:Obviously the recent BATFE regs are almost unheard-of among the average gun-going public, i was shocked.
Well seeing as that announcement was made days ago at an industry-only event it's not surprising that there's not much out there about it.

Plus I think an official announcement regarding the matter is supposed to happen Monday.

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 13:06
by flyingirish04
Mister Freeze wrote:I got a letter from Kel Tec today. MSRP is $880. Those that have alredy placed an order, what are you expecting to pay? If the BATFE comes thru, I'll be able to trade my S12 for 2 of these bad boys!

Don't wish idiotic regulation on anyone please.

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 21:05
by Mister Freeze
flyingirish04 wrote:
Mister Freeze wrote:I got a letter from Kel Tec today. MSRP is $880. Those that have alredy placed an order, what are you expecting to pay? If the BATFE comes thru, I'll be able to trade my S12 for 2 of these bad boys!

Don't wish idiotic regulation on anyone please.

Not wishing ill to others, just luck to me.

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 04 Feb 2011, 19:54
by Mister Freeze
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:thumb:

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 04 Feb 2011, 21:00
by panzermk2
Thank God I have mine on order already.

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 17:16
by Rapier1772
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011 ... n-updates/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Beware hoax sellers:
At this point, Kel-Tec has made several small runs of the shotgun, and those units have shipped to various people for testing and evaluation.

Additionally, Kel-Tec is advising that all KSG shotguns being offered for sale on GunBroker.com and other locations “…are hoaxes.” Kel-Tec stated that they have not shipped any shotguns that are available for resale, and that any of the people with T&E guns that try to sell them “…will be dealt with on their end.”

Kel-Tec stated they are “confident” they “…will be shipping in full quantities by year’s end as previously anticipated.”
Wish they'd hurry up :(

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 09:51
by SeaHawkDriver-B
I'd rather they work the bugs out then rush garbage into production. Sig has almost ruined its previously untarnishable reputation for doing things like that with their domestic "gotta have it" products.

If it turns out to be a successful product, I'll wait till the hype dies and buy two of them. Bullpups are fantastic weapons for SHTF due to their lower profile and concealability.

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 10:40
by Valorius
Llagoud wrote:Found this here> http://gunnuts.net/2011/01/20/kel-tec-k ... gun-video/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you pull the trigger, and then run the slide while still holding the trigger to the rear like you would on a Remington 870 or a Mossberg, the trigger will simply go dead. We actually tried this on several models and it was the same on each demo gun. Here’s video of me demonstrating what happens........


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To bring the gun back online after this malfunction, you’d have to run the action again, which would eject a perfectly good round in an action combat situation. Imagine that in a home defense situation – you shoot one shot, run the action on your gun, and nothing happens.
You can't just release the trigger to allow it to reset, then repull it? Most shotguns won't slam fire, and require the trigger to be released as i just described before firing.

I personally see no point to pump shotguns. Semis are soooo much faster.

And $800 for a Kel Tec shotgun? Sorry, if it doesn't say Benelli or HK on the side there is no way in hell i'm paying that kind of money for a riot gun.
SeaHawkDriver-B wrote:I'd rather they work the bugs out then rush garbage into production.
Like they did with the PMR-30.

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 16:02
by blueorison
That's actually very old news.

They have stated the problem fixed.

Re: New Kel Tec KSG Bullpup Shotty

Posted: 23 Sep 2011, 23:08
by Valorius
The problem is that it's not a semi-auto. ;)