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UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 07:50
by jgreenberg01
I know someone mentioned this somewhere on the forum, but Hickcok 45 got a hold of one to play with. I don't know if it is commercially available or not, but if it is... imma git me one of these instead of a KSG!!!


Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 08:14
by srt-4_jon
It is commercially available. Most I've seen are around $1000

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 09:58
by cHaMeLeoN352
That thing belongs in a movie and that's where it should stay...

I prefer my saiga-12 personally, but as an alternative to the KSG, I would take a look at the 1216; if you haven't already.

Here is a video displaying its function:

I apologize in advance if this derails OP thread; this seemed relevant to me


Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 12:17
by Cyberfly
I'm gonna do it...so help me blue, I'm gonna do it...

I want one! For the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE!!

There. I feel so much better...

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 12:31
by jgreenberg01
Cyberfly wrote:I'm gonna do it...so help me blue, I'm gonna do it...

I want one! For the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE!!

There. I feel so much better...
That was like a form of... tourette syndrome.

zombie.

Zombie.

ZOMBIE!

ZOMBIE!!!

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 13:43
by Cyberfly
I know, right?

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 14:31
by Hobknob
Cyberfly wrote:I know, right?
Just read that as you speaking with a valley girl accent.
:D

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 15:05
by Rapier1772
Hobknob wrote:
Cyberfly wrote:Like, I know, right?
Just read that as you speaking with a valley girl accent.
:D
FIFY

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 15:38
by Buffman
The ksg is more compact but I do like the uts

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 15:42
by jgreenberg01
Buffman wrote:The ksg is more compact but I do like the uts
It's just that after my experience with my PMR-30, I am really leery of KT now. I know that I probably just got a lemon, but after 2 unsuccessful trips to be repaired, I gotta wonder.

The UTS 15 seemed to work flawlessly in this particular video, so that's on step ahead of KT as far as I'm concerned.

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 16:30
by Buffman
I don't think I've seen any major complaints with the ksg. Though I think I've read about malfunctions that you have to tear the gun apart to fix? I like how you can open the rear on the UTS.


Has KT fixed your pMr yet?

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 16:54
by jgreenberg01
If you mean my personal PMR... no. I'm too disillusioned to send it back for a third time.

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 17:17
by Rapier1772
The loading looks to more cumbersome than the KSG. Also, it ejects to the right which, from what I've read, comes out under your chin if you're a lefty. The KSG ejects straight down like the PS90; I've heard that it can hit your arm when ejecting & can bruise/cut your arm. I have an idea for that but would have to fondle a KSG to know if it is has a chance at working.

UTS' tube selection on top? That doesn't make much sense to me. Auto alternating is good if you have the same loads but trying to keep track of which round you are using in a "firefight" or just rapid fire drills? Not likely.

KSG is still ahead IMHO.

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 18:53
by Mister Freeze
I have a Saiga 12.
Seen the UTS.
Seen the KSG.
1216 is new to me.

Saiga has beter mag changes than the 1216.
KSG is simpler than the UTS.
UTS is built better than the KSG.
There's a roto-mag thing out there for standard pumps.

Saiga wins, but I'd trade my Saiga for a KSG simply because it's not a semiauto.

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 19:45
by Rapier1772
Mister Freeze wrote:I'd trade my Saiga for a KSG simply because it's not a semiauto.
May I ask why you prefer non-semi for that kind of a shotgun?

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 21:52
by srt-4_jon
The only shotguns I've owned are semi. I'll never get a pump.

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 03 Dec 2012, 03:27
by Mister Freeze
Rapier1772 wrote:
Mister Freeze wrote:I'd trade my Saiga for a KSG simply because it's not a semiauto.
May I ask why you prefer non-semi for that kind of a shotgun?
Reliability. The Saiga is tough as nails, but pumps are just more reliable.

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 03 Dec 2012, 06:14
by srt-4_jon
Is your carry gun also a revolver? They are more reliable than a semi

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 03 Dec 2012, 06:45
by fd57
Common knowledge that pump action shotguns feed more reliably than semi-auto shotguns. No need to piss against the wind on this fact.

Ruger 41 magnum is a carry instrument of choice :)

Re: UTAS UTS-15 an alternative to the KT KSG?

Posted: 03 Dec 2012, 07:48
by Mister Freeze
srt-4_jon wrote:Is your carry gun also a revolver? They are more reliable than a semi
No, but I am in the market for a 3" stainless .357Mag for the same reason...
The nature of 12gauge shells; soft and not tapered, makes them MUCH more prone to feed problems in a semi. Nature of the beast. My S12 is solid, and if I could have both, I definitely would.