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Military Sniper Rifle

Post by ShockedNKansas » 09 Sep 2012, 16:30

I know I am not a military sniper so I will never own a "sniper's rifle". But I'm starting to get the itch for a military style sniper's rifle and was wanting a few opinions. I watched a special on the Military channel and they were pretty high on the Lapua chambered rifles.

I don't want anything crazy like a Barrett .50. I just want something interesting/unusual and effective (kind of like the FiveseveN). I don't plan on hunting, but I won't rule it out. Mostly I just want something that I can put a powerful scope on and have fun shooting at distance. But I also want it to have that bad ass military look.

I would really LOVE to have one of these.. but that ain't gonna happen.. lol

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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by ShockedNKansas » 09 Sep 2012, 16:50

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... 208887#PIC

Yikes! This fits the bill. A little spendy though..

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Post by Rapier1772 » 09 Sep 2012, 17:34

How much do you want to spend on ammo? Will ammo availability be a factor for you? Do you plan on reloading for it?

Strictly on ammo, I'd advise something in .308 caliber. The .338 can reach out there a bit more but ammo is harder to find & more expensive, even to reload.
I think there are a couple of pics on the forum of some pimped out M1s (.308).
Either way, you're definitely going to be shelling out mucho moneyo to get it & set it up right.

If you are just going for distance, don't discount smaller calibers. The 6.5 Grendel is also good for long ranges & uses a military style platform (AR15 lowers). I've heard good things about 22-250 also, but I haven't done any research on it.
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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by smpsmp » 09 Sep 2012, 17:49

For ammo, I'd go 308 cause of what is out there. Hunting, surplus/range, and match ammo is readily available at pretty much any gun shop.

Do you want to go semi or bolt? For bolt work off a 700 action, and for semi you can go AR10 or into an M1A. I'm considering a M1A myself now. Either the super match or the M21, just haven't decided what yet.

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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by f3rr37 » 09 Sep 2012, 18:20

Rem700 + Millet for glass, and you've got yourself a great beginner rifle. I shot a .731 MOA 8 shot group at 400 yards this summer with my SPS Tactical (.308WIN).

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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by cvande » 09 Sep 2012, 19:58

Remington makes a 700 R5. Like the tactical but with a 11.5 to 1 twist and an HS precision stock. Fantastic shooter for an out of the box rifle.

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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by starfury » 09 Sep 2012, 20:08

I agree with f3rr37. I recently had the same itch and just picked up a Rem 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD and equipped it with a harris bipod, badger ordnance steel rail/scope mounts and a SWFA 3-9x42 scope. It shoots like a dream with good consistency and the price wasn’t that bad for everything. I screwed a muzzle brake on it for fun and it is like shooting a 223. I would recommend the setup to wet your appetite.

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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by SHEEPDOG » 09 Sep 2012, 20:59

I have 3 Blasser Tac 2's 338LM. I live and hunt in west Texas. There are allot of places to shoot it on our ranch. You may find it difficult to find a range that will let you shoot it because it destroys targets and is VERY loud if you are not the one pulling the trigger. These guns have a straight pull bolt and a collet locking system. They are incredibly accurate. We shoot one pound exploding rifle targets off the top of Homer buckets at 1,000 to 1,500 yds. All three are set up exactly the same with5.5x22x50 Nightforce zero stop scopes. They are big and Heavy. If all you are going to do is shoot 400-600 yds. Go with the 300 win mag, 308, 243,and 22-250, with barrels interchangeable barrels. the barrels on the 338LM are not interchangeable with other calibers.

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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by ShockedNKansas » 10 Sep 2012, 09:10

Thanks for all the input guys! It definitely looks like the Rem 700 is the way to go. It's a great shooter and very reasonably priced. Just one thing, it looks like a typical hunting rifle -- not tactiCOOL. :(

Oh, and Sheepdog? 3 Blasser Tac 2 .338's? Image

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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by ShockedNKansas » 10 Sep 2012, 09:24

Rapier1772 wrote:How much do you want to spend on ammo? Will ammo availability be a factor for you? Do you plan on reloading for it?
Ammo price doesn't really matter because I won't be shooting it that much. I probably won't reload either.
smpsmp wrote:Do you want to go semi or bolt?
Bolt will be fine.

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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by srt-4_jon » 10 Sep 2012, 09:55

Look at the Savage 10 line. I had one chambered in 308 in a HS precision stock until I sold it for my FN SPR. Also, what kind of distance are you thinking?
You think you wont shoot it much but what good is a $1000 rifle with $1000 glass if you put 20 rounds through a year?

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Post by ShockedNKansas » 10 Sep 2012, 10:21

srt-4_jon wrote:Look at the Savage 10 line. I had one chambered in 308 in a HS precision stock until I sold it for my FN SPR. Also, what kind of distance are you thinking?
You think you wont shoot it much but what good is a $1000 rifle with $1000 glass if you put 20 rounds through a year?


I don't know what distances.. the further the better, but I'm limited to where I can shoot right now. I will probably have to join a local club that has an outdoor range.

As far as how much I shoot; the only gun I shoot fairly consistently is my FsN. Everything else is just shot whenever I have time or feel the urge. I like the idea of buying guns as a hobby because there is enduring value in them. So if I don't shoot a weapon much, it's not like it's going to expire. :)

And yep, the Savage 10 is what I had in a link earlier in the thread. If I MUST have a Lapua chambered rifle that is also impressive to look at, that might be the one to get. At only 1,800 and change, it seems reasonable.. at least compared to a
Blasser Tac. Does anybody have any experience with Savage 10/110's?

I'm wondering what recoil is like on one of those chambered in .338? I know the 50 cal sniper rifles like the Barrett have a sophisticated shock absorbing system in them. I wonder what the 10/110 in .338 has?

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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by ShockedNKansas » 10 Sep 2012, 10:29



That's a bad ass rifle.

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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by Cyberfly » 10 Sep 2012, 10:39

Since your specifications have changed from 'sniper' rifle to 'hunting' rifle,...and really, in the real world, what would you use a sniper rifle for? Sniping deer, elk, coyotes etc, anyway?
Please allow me to suggest a couple of the more common deer rifles in this area. Probably two of the most common and flattest shooting calibers you will run across without breaking the bank will be the .270 and the 7MM magnum. I'm sure many will disagree, however, for beginning distance shooters who are not that familiar with adjusting for windage and drop, these two calibers are quite forgiving.
The third caliber I would suggest looking into would be the always classic 30.06. In either bolt or semi-auto, this rifle can be had with either wood furniture or flat black polymer and blue or stainless machinery. Almost every rifle manufacturer will have some variant of the .06 and as just about any hunter will tell you, unless you are going after really big game in Africa (and some claim it will work there, as well), the 30.06 is the do-everything caliber. It has won World Wars and it has taken thousands of game.
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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by ShockedNKansas » 10 Sep 2012, 10:49

Cyberfly wrote:Since your specifications have changed from 'sniper' rifle to 'hunting' rifle,...and really, in the real world, what would you use a sniper rifle for? Sniping deer, elk, coyotes etc, anyway?
Please allow me to suggest a couple of the more common deer rifles in this area. Probably two of the most common and flattest shooting calibers you will run across without breaking the bank will be the .270 and the 7MM magnum. I'm sure many will disagree, however, for beginning distance shooters who are not that familiar with adjusting for windage and drop, these two calibers are quite forgiving.
The third caliber I would suggest looking into would be the always classic 30.06. In either bolt or semi-auto, this rifle can be had with either wood furniture or flat black polymer and blue or stainless machinery. Almost every rifle manufacturer will have some variant of the .06 and as just about any hunter will tell you, unless you are going after really big game in Africa (and some claim it will work there, as well), the 30.06 is the do-everything caliber. It has won World Wars and it has taken thousands of game.
Just a humble suggestion.
When did my specifications change? Did I say something inadvertently? I don't plan on hunting with the rifle. I just want to hit itty bitty targets from as far away as I can plant myself and then have something that I can look at and say... badass. The Lapua round excites me because of what I read about it. It kind of reminds me of the 5.7, unusual and exotic.

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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by chrisbuser » 10 Sep 2012, 11:24

Remington 700 has a history of problems with accidental discharge due to faulty trigger connector. Research specific model carefully before purchase. 308 is an excellent choice of caliber.
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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by jgreenberg01 » 10 Sep 2012, 11:26

ShockedNKansas wrote:When did my specifications change? Did I say something inadvertently? I don't plan on hunting with the rifle. I just want to hit itty bitty targets from as far away as I can plant myself and then have something that I can look at and say... badass. The Lapua round excites me because of what I read about it. It kind of reminds me of the 5.7, unusual and exotic.
If all you want is an exotic toy that will hit a flea off a dog's butt at 1000 yards, then consider a Cheytac Intervention System in .408.

Don't even bother with the ho-hum, run-of-the-mill .270, .308 or 30.06 (yawn).

I'm just sayin'...
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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by fzr confused » 10 Sep 2012, 11:35

I am in the same boat man, I reeeaaalllly want a 338 bad!!! Was not sure if I should go rem 700 or the savage. I have a 7mm rem 770 and I absolutely hate the action on it. Worst bolt gun I have ever fired, but it is also bottom of the barrel lol. Wish I went with the 700 back then instead. My only wants for this rifle is "long range" shooting. My uncle has a 600 yard range down the road for him and that's about the farthest place I know where I can shoot it. So as long as I can consistently hit good groups at that range I will be happy, so that is what I looking for in a caliber.

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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by f3rr37 » 10 Sep 2012, 13:02

chrisbuser wrote:Remington 700 has a history of problems with accidental discharge due to faulty trigger connector. Research specific model carefully before purchase. 308 is an excellent choice of caliber.
Never had a problem with mine.


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Re: Military Sniper Rifle

Post by Ariac » 10 Sep 2012, 13:32

Howa has always done fine for most. I have one in 24" 308 axiom stock that has always done very well (1moa or better with hornady custom). The only reason I don't use it much anymore is my 700 vtr has 5r rifling and is shorter and handier in the woods.

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Here is an entry level package for a howa that is all set up to get you started.

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