Ruger 10/22 Takedown

[jgreenberg01]

I can't blame you Irish. I'm a recent convert to .22lr and was really because of the price of ammo. I am so glad I did... this is a great gun!

Even better is that you can get decent glass for rimfire rifles at a reasonable price. Hell, even with the timney trigger I put in, it still didn't break the piggy bank.

I'm so happy with it that this is me:



Except I'm shouting "RUGER" instead of "Wolverines"...

(ignore the zombies that are coming up behind me...)

[flyingirish04]

That's what I shout whenever I take out my Alaskan 454. And being that I often carry it in MT where there are wolverines, perhaps I will be able to shout both.


'oh crap, WOLVERINE!, RUGERRRR!'

[Rapier1772]

Hell, even with the timney trigger I put in, it still didn't break the piggy bank.

Uh yeah it does. Or at least it does my piggy bank. Trigger is 2/3 the cost of the rifle - ouch. I can't afford to splurge like that any more

[jgreenberg01]

This looks really interesting. I wonder what our resident expert thinks of this nifty little mod?

Magnum Research Magnum Lite® Rifles – Graphite Barrel Technology for the Ruger 1022

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/magnum- ... uger-1022/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[f3rr37]

This looks really interesting. I wonder what our resident expert thinks of this nifty little mod?

Magnum Research Magnum Lite® Rifles – Graphite Barrel Technology for the Ruger 1022

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/magnum- ... uger-1022/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Basically just a carbon-fiber barrel... nothing new.

$0.02

[jmz5]

This looks really interesting. I wonder what our resident expert thinks of this nifty little mod?

Magnum Research Magnum Lite® Rifles – Graphite Barrel Technology for the Ruger 1022

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/magnum- ... uger-1022/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Basically just a carbon-fiber barrel... nothing new.

$0.02

What he said.

[jgreenberg01]

Ok, so I'm new to the platform and excited about all the stuff I can do. I get it: carbon fiber = meh. Let me ask you jaded experts ( :p ) this then... what do you think the best can is for this rifle? It also needs to work well with my M&P 22 handgun.

Looked at a few, saw all the youtube videos, but have never seen/heard one in action up close and personal. Have you had any good/bad experiences with cans on the 10/22?

[Esteves]

If I had more dollars than sense, I'd go this route: The Operative TD (Take-Down Complete Rifle) and get a second can for the handgun.
More budget friendly, the SS Sparrow and SWR Spectre II both get high marks (and will play the 5.7x28mm game too.)

I have a SS sparrow at my local SOT that's waiting for ATF to issue a stamp. It will see use on the 10/22s, amongst other firearms in my stable.

[Cyberfly]

Wait? The 'best' or the best available to purchase?
There IS a difference. :p

[jgreenberg01]

Thanks for the input Esteves! I had already narrowed the choice down to three options:

AAC Prodigy, SWR Spectre II, and the Sparrow.

I really wanted the Prodigy because of its weight, only 3.6oz - just over half the weight of the other two. Butttt the other two are rated for 5.7x28 and the Prodigy is not. If I know me, I'll end up with a threaded barrel some day for my FsN. It's also the only one of the three not rated for full auto. It's not that I will ever shoot F/A, but it does speak to durability.

I ended up going with the Spectre II.

I'll bring my 10/22 to my gunsmith this week to have the barrel threaded, then I'll spend the next 8 months staring at the threads...

[blueorison]

Dang, saw this, and I really want one. I've put off Rugers, Buckmarks, etc. etc. even at great prices, because I know I'd never have the time to go "plinking" with .22's. If I have time to plink, I'm usually hiking or doing something else, outdoors.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/prod ... R+Black+22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The downside is that I heard they suck at quality control. The 10/22's and the other take-down/packable .22 rifles do not come close to the packability and compactness and just pure utilitarian/simplicity of this design.

I wish they would make the AR7 to better standards, so I could buy one for packing. I thought of getting the .22, but it's not as space-efficient. I want a .22 pack rifle that fit its parts in the stock; anyone can help or know of one? Or maybe I'm wrong about the AR7 and they have a good version that works more often than not? I usually don't pay attention to 2nd hand reviews read online, but there is just too many negative reviews about the iffy quality.

[Esteves]

Here's how I'm thinking for a packing plinker

Unfortunately, they want a fair bit of coin.
http://www.agparms.com/agp-arms-take-down-10-22-sbr/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and Uncle Sam wants his dues too.

[jgreenberg01]

Ok, that's purdy. And purdy expensive too for a 10/22!

[jmz5]

Ok, so I'm new to the platform and excited about all the stuff I can do. I get it: carbon fiber = meh. Let me ask you jaded experts ( :p ) this then... what do you think the best can is for this rifle? It also needs to work well with my M&P 22 handgun.

Looked at a few, saw all the youtube videos, but have never seen/heard one in action up close and personal. Have you had any good/bad experiences with cans on the 10/22?

I have a SWR sprectre and love it, but if I had to do it over again, I would get a sparrow.

The spectre is a tank, you won't damage it, there are youtube vids of SWR shooting full auto 223 through one.

[jgreenberg01]

Yes, and I also looked at the noise reduction comparisons: the Spectre II outperforms them all by just a little, the original Spectre included. Ultimately those 2 things were the deciding factors - noise reduction & durability. Ok, price too.

It does look like it's the biggest PITA of the 3 to clean though.

[jmz5]

Go with the spectre then, it will out last the sparrow by a long long time.

[jgreenberg01]

Thanks for the input - Spectre II paid for and my gun shop isn't even charging extra for babysitting it for 8 months and $200 sent to the ATF for my permission slip. What a deal.

[jmz5]

Get an ultrasonic cleaner and a gallon of purple power, you will thank me later. You won't have to do any scrubbing. There might, might be some buildup on the blast baffel that needs to be scraped off with a brush or a flat head screwdriver, but that's it.

Mix 50% near boiling water, and 50% purple power for your solution, run ten minutes and you should have a sparkly clean spectre. I don't recommend putting the tube in the solution even though it's SS.
When the baffles are clean, rinse them off in running water, the coat very lightly with what ever you choose to coat stuff with, I like Mpro-7, it's odorless and non toxic.

If you want stupid quiet on your 10/22, get a urethane bolt buffer, they are cake to replace, it will stop the "clank" on each shot.
http://www.shootersdiscount.com/cart/in ... ct_id=1184" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My spectre is going out for the upgrade to 2 on monday.

[jgreenberg01]

Thanks for the heads-up on the ultrasonic cleaner. I could use that for way more than just this one can. The spring in the LID on my Gemtech Blackside is nearly impossible to get clean.

Do you know if the urethane buffer works properly with the Timney drop-in trigger installed?

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=4461 ... R-ASSEMBLY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[jmz5]

It will, it just replaces the bolt stop pin.

Don't put your Gemtech in the ultrasonic cleaner, don't put any aluminum anything it it.

If you aren't familiar with cavitation, you will be after an ultrasonic cleaner turns your aluminum can into swiss cheese.

[jgreenberg01]

It will, it just replaces the bolt stop pin.

Don't put your Gemtech in the ultrasonic cleaner, don't put any aluminum anything it it.

If you aren't familiar with cavitation, you will be after an ultrasonic cleaner turns your aluminum can into swiss cheese.

No, not the baffles, I just meant the spring which is steel.

That's the same reason you should use non water based ablatives, like wire pulling gel, in a "wet" can that has aluminum baffles.

[jmz5]

Spit works well as an ablative. :laugh:

[jgreenberg01]

That would take a lot of spit. Would practically have to be a chronic drooler to make that work...

Thanks for the ultrasound idea - I wish I had thought of it earlier. It just hit me that it can be used for almost anything not aluminum. You could virtually drop your slide in for example and let it do the majority of the work for you. Do you clean your other guns like that? And if so, which one do you use?

[jmz5]

I use it to clean my silencer guts, reloading dies and other random stuff. I clean my guns the old fashion way.

[f3rr37]

I use mine to clean my bolt/bolt carrier from my AR. Works wonders.

[jgreenberg01]

Well I had my 10/22 barrel threaded (only 8 months in advance of getting my stamp) and had the barrel cut down from 18" to 16". As I'm sure you're aware, the front sight goes away when you do that and I want to find an after market bolt-on or on that attaches by tapping the barrel that will work with the factory flip-up rear sight.

I have exhausted my google-fu prowess searching for this to no avail, and am hoping that one of the resident 10/22 gurus might know if this even exists. This is nothing urgent because there's a scope mounted on it, but I'm a believer in having iron back-ups.

[f3rr37]

Why not have a dove-tail re-cut for it?

[Esteves]

Not quite answering jgreenberg's question - Various options http://www.nodakspud.com/NDS-22.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The NDS-44 front sight in combination with an NDS-26 might fit the bill.

f3rr37's suggestion is more straight-forward.

[jgreenberg01]

Why not have a dove-tail re-cut for it?

Good question. Because the dovetail wasn't cut into the barrel, it was raised above the barrel. That means that without finding a way to raise it, any standard dovetail replacement front sight will be too low to be used with the flip-up sight that is already mounted to the barrel:

[jgreenberg01]

Not quite answering jgreenberg's question - Various options http://www.nodakspud.com/NDS-22.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The NDS-44 front sight in combination with an NDS-26 might fit the bill.

f3rr37's suggestion is more straight-forward.

Thanks, I saw those. I'm trying to use the rear flip-up sight that is factory mounted on the barrel.

[PainKillaX]

Take the left over bit, bore out the barrel so all you have left is the wider part with the front sight mounted on it, then find a way to make it fit on the barrel you've got now. I made that up but maybe it'll work?

[Esteves]

These guys do what you're asking for, and are on my short-list for some of the work that I have in mind (favorable reviews from around the 'net): http://jpgrips.com/page4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[jgreenberg01]

That's what I need. Thank you!

[Magellan]

Now you need a Butler Creek speed loader for those 25 round mags.
I have a older 10-22 with a Bushnell scope ( I bought it that way at a gun show)
I added a BiPod, a mag release extension and 2) 25 round clips.
Economical fun shooting and a great companion to my Browning Buckmark Contour 22lr.

[Vortec MAX]

Now you need a Butler Creek speed loader for those 25 round mags.

Has anyone tried using the Butler Creek speedloader with the new Ruger BX-25 magazines? It says on the packaging for the Butler Creek speedloader that they only work with Butler Creek Steel Lips mags, but I was wondering if that was really true.

Anyone tried?

Mike

[jgreenberg01]

Ok, tax stamp came in and this rifle is done now too (I think):



Mods:
Nikon P-22 2-7x32 Scope w/BDC 150 Reticle
Weaver Lever Lok Quick Release 1" High Rings
Timney Ruger 10/22 Drop-in Trigger Red
Urethane bolt buffer
Chopped barrel from 18" to 16" and threaded
SWR Spectre II suppressor

And yes, it does fit into the carry bag the rifle without taking the scope or suppressor off!

[jmz5]

The spectre 2 rules.

You forgot to add a urethane bolt buffer.

[jgreenberg01]

The spectre 2 rules.

You forgot to add a urethane bolt buffer.

Thanks for reminding me - I added that on your recommendation. Post fixed.

Videos coming next week with regular & subsonic ammo. Can't wait to see how quiet this thing is...

[Vortec MAX]

Mods:
Nikon P-22 2-7x32 Scope w/BDC 150 Reticle
Weaver Lever Lok Quick Release 1" High Rings
Timney Ruger 10/22 Drop-in Trigger Red
Urethane bolt buffer
Chopped barrel from 18" to 16" and threaded
SWR Spectre II suppressor

And yes, it does fit into the carry bag the rifle without taking the scope or suppressor off!

That's the same scope I put on my son's takedown. I haven't been able to get it in the bag without first removing the scope. How'd you do it?

Mike

[jgreenberg01]

Mods:
Nikon P-22 2-7x32 Scope w/BDC 150 Reticle
Weaver Lever Lok Quick Release 1" High Rings
Timney Ruger 10/22 Drop-in Trigger Red
Urethane bolt buffer
Chopped barrel from 18" to 16" and threaded
SWR Spectre II suppressor

And yes, it does fit into the carry bag the rifle without taking the scope or suppressor off!

That's the same scope I put on my son's takedown. I haven't been able to get it in the bag without first removing the scope. How'd you do it?

Mike

I don't know how to answer that other than by saying: just slide it in there.

Yeah, yeah, I know :twss:

[jgreenberg01]

I'm really frustrated with my 10/22 now. The thing was a tack-driver before the suppressor and now with it installed, I have 2 problems with accuracy:

1) With CCI 40gr standard velocity ammo, there is not enough elevation adjustment on the Nikon scope, and

2) The Remington subsonic ammo sprays all over the place. I'm talking 6 inch groups at 25 yards.

Normally I would just go out and get a bunch of different types of ammo to find one that works, but... THERE ISN'T ANY FRACKING AMMO!!!! I feel like I can't use the rifle any more.

:wall: :furious: :wall: :furious: :wall: :furious:

[Vortec MAX]

That's the same scope I put on my son's takedown. I haven't been able to get it in the bag without first removing the scope. How'd you do it?

Mike

I don't know how to answer that other than by saying: just slide it in there.

I got it in, but it was pretty tight and I couldn't close the flap.

LOL... have fun with that comment.

Mike

[panzermk2]

I'm really frustrated with my 10/22 now. The thing was a tack-driver before the suppressor and now with it installed, I have 2 problems with accuracy:

1) With CCI 40gr standard velocity ammo, there is not enough elevation adjustment on the Nikon scope, and

2) The Remington subsonic ammo sprays all over the place. I'm talking 6 inch groups at 25 yards.

Normally I would just go out and get a bunch of different types of ammo to find one that works, but... THERE ISN'T ANY FRACKING AMMO!!!! I feel like I can't use the rifle any more.

:wall: :furious: :wall: :furious: :wall: :furious:

Rem 22lr in general sucks. Aguila makes the best sub sonic 22lr.

[jmz5]

Aguila makes the best sub sonic 22lr.

Now you done it, you opened the can. :laugh:

I disagree. Wolf makes the best for the best price, lapua makes the best if money was no object.

[Mister Freeze]

I was able to score one of these, and now am looking for sights from a 77/22 so that I can see them over the provided rail. Too bad even those won't be tall enough to see through the hole provided in my scope mount :furious: Anybody got a good fix for this?

Jeff- did yours come with 1 or 2 straps for the case? Mine only had 1; I'd need a second to make it into a backpack.

[Vortec MAX]

The Leupold Rifleman scope rail has a groove down the center. You can barely see the top of the stock sights with it installed. The sights are really low profile on these rifles.

Mike

[jgreenberg01]

I was able to score one of these, and now am looking for sights from a 77/22 so that I can see them over the provided rail. Too bad even those won't be tall enough to see through the hole provided in my scope mount :furious: Anybody got a good fix for this?

Jeff- did yours come with 1 or 2 straps for the case? Mine only had 1; I'd need a second to make it into a backpack.

Yeah mine came with only one strap as well which I thought was strange since there's 2 loops on the top and bottom of the bag.