Ruger 10/22 Takedown

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 24 Apr 2012, 11:37

So I wasn't a big fan of the .22lr round, but for $300 this rifle seemed like a good deal. Plus over time it could save me a LOT of $$$ in ammo considering today's prices.

I put over 1000 rounds through it today (how expensive would that be with a 5.7x28 gun?)... not one failure of any kind. Not one. I used 3 different kinds of bulk ammo plus CCI. I used the factory 10 round mag and an aftermarket 25 rounder. I shot fast, I shot slow. The thing just works!

The big question I had was: would it maintain its POA/POI after breaking it down and reassembling it? You'll have to watch the video to see.

What, you thought I wouldn't make a video? :laugh:

Yeah, now I am a .22lr fan!

EDIT: whoops, hold that thought - got screwed at the youtube drivethrough. Have to upload the video... again. Just another 6 hours, grrrr!

Post by **jmz5** » 24 Apr 2012, 16:17

I love 10/22's.

Post by **blueorison** » 24 Apr 2012, 17:26

After Bill died, they finally made Ruger into a "competitive" company. I'm glad they are balancing it, and not streaking towards the tactifag route.

I finally got to check out the Ruger SR22.

Fortunately, I didn't like it, because I have to save for a USPSA gun, still.

So I still don't own a .22.

I don't plink, don't have a suppressor, and don't have the time to just "go shooting" unless it's with good friends. Every visit to the range is for a specific purpose, and plinking sadly isn't ever on the radar.

I used to shoot through 1000 rounds in 4 hours, training for NRA competitions. I kinda'f miss it.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 24 Apr 2012, 18:51

Ok, that took all day to reload. Here's the video:

Oldbindlestiff · Post by **Oldbindlestiff** » 25 Apr 2012, 09:03

....MoGB accuracy. I love 10/22's. Mine started as a $180 carbine and is now closing in on the Kidd One Thousand Dollar club! Ammo is still affordable, tho. Great video. Thanks.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 25 Apr 2012, 09:58

Thanks jg, I've been thinking about getting a .22 rifle. I liked the collapsability (word?) of that one but hadn't seen anything about it until now.

sabotteur · Post by **sabotteur** » 25 Apr 2012, 10:16

I've got two of these if anyone wants one. $315 shipped.

Post by **Esteves** » 08 May 2012, 17:12

Even cooler...

Post by **Rapier1772** » 08 May 2012, 17:37

I didn't hear any yipping but the dogs shut up once he started shooting :laugh:

Pretty cool :thumb:

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 08 May 2012, 18:14

Holy crap, I want one!

Post by **Esteves** » 08 May 2012, 18:23

Go with a shorter version and throw on a folder...

...and the whole thing should fit in a lunch-box.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 08 May 2012, 21:30

Esteves wrote:Go with a shorter version and throw on a folder...

...and the whole thing should fit in a lunch-box.

Oh I like that one....

Oldbindlestiff · Post by **Oldbindlestiff** » 09 May 2012, 07:16

:thumb:

Great pack rifle!

Post by **jmz5** » 09 May 2012, 11:59

Oldbindlestiff wrote:....MoGB accuracy. I love 10/22's. Mine started as a $180 carbine and is now closing in on the Kidd One Thousand Dollar club! Ammo is still affordable, tho. Great video. Thanks.

Just watch out, those thousand dollar rimfire carbines multiply. I have several now.

Oldbindlestiff · Post by **Oldbindlestiff** » 10 May 2012, 08:04

Yes, and they can be demanding too. This one wants better optics, or, failing that, a better shooter!

Post by **Reverend Herc** » 12 May 2012, 17:29

Thanks Greenberg......

I just bought one today... She is so much fun... I need to give her a name....

My wife told me she was going shoe shopping...

So I figured I could spend a little money too.....

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 13 May 2012, 06:05

Reverend Herc wrote:Thanks Greenberg......

I just bought one today... She is so much fun... I need to give her a name....

My wife told me she was going shoe shopping...

So I figured I could spend a little money too.....

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

That's awesome. Just remember though... "Vera" is take already.

Post by **Esteves** » 13 May 2012, 06:21

Post by **Reverend Herc** » 13 May 2012, 15:25

Can someone help me find a reasonable scope for me new 10/22? I have "tactically" searched this forum and found little. I have also searched the internet and now i am asking for my extended family for assistance....

http://muelleroptics.com/category/produ ... ire-scopes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/119797 ... icle-matte" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is what seems to be what the internet gurus are pointing me too. However I am open to any and all suggestions....

Thanks

:ponder:

bobapunk · Post by **bobapunk** » 14 May 2012, 04:23

I would forget the scope and get these:

http://www.tech-sights.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I enjoy my 10/22:

Oldbindlestiff · Post by **Oldbindlestiff** » 14 May 2012, 07:17

Rev,
It depends on what use you intend for your 10/22. Mine is a range queen. As such, the Mueller APV is a good, inexpensive choice. If it is going to be a walk-around rifle, the new Nikon rimfire scopes are great (parallax is set to 50 yards). The Pride Fowler rimfire scopes also have a good reputation. and also have first focal plane reticles.

I wouldn't overlook the red dots for non-precision shooting out to fifty yards. I have an Aimpoint H-1 which gets transferred from gun to gun according to my latest whimsy. Notwithstanding all of the above, Bobapunk has pointed to a great, sturdy and effective alternative for a pack rifle with the range of a .22LR.

If you haven't found this site already, http://www.rimfirecentral.com has a section on the 10/22. Let us know about your choice and how it performs.

Post by **Reverend Herc** » 14 May 2012, 19:31

Thank you so much for your help... I really appreciate the advise i received from "bobapunk" and "Oldbindlestiff"..

I really like those iron sites however I would really like to put a scope on this thing....

I think i am close to a decision and will post an update when i make it....

If anyone has anything else to add.. please do so....

Thanks again....

justa22 · Post by **justa22** » 15 May 2012, 13:52

Just purchased a 22 takedown rifle from AA Arsenal, what a great guy to deal with!

Post by **Reverend Herc** » 15 May 2012, 16:21

:agree: :agree: :agree:

Post by **c1demo** » 02 Aug 2012, 17:05

I put a Nikon P223 scope on mine. It is a fixed 3x scope, and short enough to still fit in the carry case easily.

blacklabelop · Post by **blacklabelop** » 02 Aug 2012, 18:56

Mueller APT is the best .22 scope out there !!!!!!!!!!

Post by **Rapier1772** » 02 Aug 2012, 19:11

blacklabelop wrote:Mueller APT is the best .22 scope out there !!!!!!!!!!

But does it still fit in the Takedown's case? That scope in your pic would be a no go.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 03 Aug 2012, 21:53

I do'ed it. I bought one. Sportsman's is having a sale on them for $290
Put a Weaver 2-7x32mm scope on it. Was just gonna throw a cheapy on it but it was a little too cheap on the lenses. Then I saw how much clearer the Weaver was & went with that. They said it would still fit in the pack but once it was properly mounted, it didn't. Once home, I readjusted the scope position & now I can zip the pack completely, just can't close the inner flap. Eye relief isn't ideal at 7x (close though) so maybe I'll have to get something like that folding stock for pack storage?

They said they'd install the scope free so I let 'em. That was kind of a mistake. When using screws on a gun, use loctite - friggin numbskulls (that's directed at Sportsman's, not y'all). Didn't know they did not use any until after ~30 minutes of playing at the range & my scope mount started to rattle. WTF? :wall: It's got it now.

Now I can actually get it zeroed & see if it still holds. <insert fingers crossed smilie>
So far, fun gun. Bought a couple of 25rd mags - burns through ammo pretty fast with those :laugh: Had less failure to fires than the Ruger 22/45 pistol with the same box of ammo :ponder: Guess the rifle has a stronger spring?

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 04 Aug 2012, 04:13

It's a real fun gun, and way too easy to burn through ammo. Thankfully it's only like $17 for a 550 round box (at least at my Wally World).

By the way, maybe I'm lucky, but I have never had to use loctite when mounting scopes. I just torque the base and ring screws to the manufacturers specs and have never had an issue with it loosening up/losing zero. Not even on my .308.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 04 Aug 2012, 06:25

No loctite? Lucky you or unlucky me. With the possible exception of my 30-06 (dad had the scope & mounts changed out while I was at sea so dunno) everything else has came loose & had to be retightened, even when coming from a gunsmith, including the grips on my 9mm - that was annoying, happened during a class.
I always loctite the screws any more for that reason.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 04 Aug 2012, 06:52

FWIW, I have had the same problem with the grips on my AR15 & AR10. I kinda figured it was because I didn't have the torque specs and I was afraid of over-tightening & cracking the grips - especially the custom wood one on my LR308. Had to use loctite for those screws.

Vortec MAX · Post by **Vortec MAX** » 04 Aug 2012, 14:25

I've bought two of these so far. Cal-Ranch had a sale and I bought one. Then Sportsman's Warehouse had a sale (for 10 bucks less than Cal-Ranch) and I bought another. One for each kid. Now I need one for myself

Mike

Post by **Rapier1772** » 04 Aug 2012, 17:22

Took it out again today, the $&)#@*ing scope crosshairs broke. I had just got it out, ran one mag through it, put a new in & looked through the scope.
The horizontal bar had broken loose. Smeggin hell!!! I just bought this thing!

Took it back to store (90mi round trip) & they changed it out. We'll see if it holds up this time. It had better :furious:

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 04 Aug 2012, 17:41

It's great that they replaced it, but 90 miles makes it a much more expensive scope!

fooschnickens · Post by **fooschnickens** » 05 Aug 2012, 15:24

It'd be cool if they came out with a wooden furniture set that mimics the "rancher" mini-14 look.

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 06 Aug 2012, 12:04

BSA Sweet 22 isn't all that bad for the money.

Mueller is an excellent scope as well.

THe Nikon rimfire scopes are very nice, but I don't think enough to justify the price up from the BSA or Mueller.

ShockedNKansas · Post by **ShockedNKansas** » 13 Aug 2012, 14:54

jgreenberg01 wrote:Ok, that took all day to reload. Here's the video:

I've never seen so much gummy gore in my entire life. :facepalm: The 5.7 makes them disappear, but this 22lr is just plain graphic. Also, I love how that last gummy deflected your shot. He thought he owned you, but you fixed his wagon. Squish.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 13 Aug 2012, 15:06

I'm not having very good luck with mine, at least not with the scope.

The iron sights are on barrel & so will always be aligned with the barrel. But the barrel separates from the receiver which is where the scope is mounted. Maybe I am missing an adjustment screw somewhere? :huh: I've done the adjustment collar thing every time I use it.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 13 Aug 2012, 17:30

I realized after the fact that it was no big deal that it retained its POA/POI after breakdown and reassembly because of what you just pointed out.

I'll get a scope for mine one of these days and see if it works using that. I've always used iron sights on .22s and this would be my first .22 scope - what would you recommend for this rifle?

Post by **Rapier1772** » 13 Aug 2012, 18:27

I dunno, this is my first .22 rifle :laugh:
This time, the Weaver is doing well (so far) & I still like it. When I bought it, they also had a cheapy for ~$35 but looking through it, I didn't want THAT cheap. I really didn't want to spend much for a scope for a .22 but I figured if it turned out well, maybe I could swap it over to another gun - like maybe the FS2K? (Although that CQT I have on the 2K will look silly on the Takedown :laugh: )

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 14 Aug 2012, 12:58

Ok, gonna test it tomorrow. Can't today - we have a torential downpour going on.

Decided to try a Nikon P-22 2-7x32 on the 10/22. With the scope mounted, it fits in the bag but not in the pouch.

And check this out; they have this app Spot-On (http://www.nikonhunting.com/spoton" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) that lets you enter the scope, bullet, magnification & atmospheric conditions and it will tell you exactly what each bubble on the reticle represents in bullet drop:

Now I gotta go see if the app will run on my android...

Post by **c1demo** » 15 Aug 2012, 03:31

I bought one of those first, but changed to the p223 so it would fit in the pouch. Nice little scope, I kept it and put it on my CZ .22.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 15 Aug 2012, 04:15

I tried it again, and it does fit in the pouch with the scope mounted. It just took getting it at the right angle.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 15 Aug 2012, 18:52

And here it is action with the scope. Did it hold its zero after being taken down & reassembled?

You betcha.

Pretty decent scope too by the way...

Post by **panzermk2** » 16 Aug 2012, 09:27

Nice vid and I have to say would there be any doubt that a Ruger rifle would perform?

Post by **jmz5** » 18 Aug 2012, 18:09

I have three meuller apv scopes, they work great and won't break the bank

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 24 Aug 2012, 05:49

Just installed a Timney drop-in trigger group. It went from an inconsistent 5.5-6lb pull with lots-o-creep to a 2.5lb pull with absolutely no creep whatsoever. It also has an extended "lever action" mag release for one finger operation and an auto-bolt release so no more fumbling around with that silly button.

I can't wait to shoot it, this may be be the perfect .22lr rifle. Why didn't I find 10/22's sooner???

I can feel a disturbance in the force already... a threaded barrel and suppressor, the future do I see... hmm?

Post by **Cyberfly** » 24 Aug 2012, 10:28

Now you know why Justin is a 10/22 NUT. You should see some of his custom creations.
Actually, WE should see some of them. Most that he posted over the years were taken with his cheap POS camera that looked like...well...let's just say you have to use your imagination to really understand what you were looking at.

Post by **panzermk2** » 24 Aug 2012, 11:56

Cyberfly wrote:Now you know why Justin is a 10/22 NUT. You should see some of his custom creations.
Actually, WE should see some of them. Most that he posted over the years were taken with his cheap POS camera that looked like...well...let's just say you have to use your imagination to really understand what you were looking at.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :thumb:

Post by **Cyberfly** » 24 Aug 2012, 12:48

We laugh, but its true.
Those Gen1 pics from Justin were...HORRIBLE.
Pink and blue fuzzy blurry blobs shaped somewhat like a rifle. And we'd all 'ooh' and 'ahh' over them to make him feel good...all the while wondering, 'WTF was that?!'
It was almost like someone smeared Vaseline over the camera lens...
We love him to death but his photo taking skills back in the day left a lot to be desired!
I think the best I could come at emulating one of his photos would be to jump up and down on a trampoline with a first generation camera phone and try to take a close up of a Corvette passing by at full throttle...

Post by **blueorison** » 24 Aug 2012, 13:02

Cyberfly wrote:We laugh, but its true.
Those Gen1 pics from Justin were...HORRIBLE.
Pink and blue fuzzy blurry blobs shaped somewhat like a rifle. And we'd all 'ooh' and 'ahh' over them to make him feel good...all the while wondering, 'WTF was that?!'
It was almost like someone smeared Vaseline over the camera lens...
We love him to death but his photo taking skills back in the day left a lot to be desired!
I think the best I could come at emulating one of his photos would be to jump up and down on a trampoline with a first generation camera phone and try to take a close up of a Corvette passing by at full throttle...

I LOL'd so hard. Pretty sure I remember a pink furry blob. It also might've had this giant scope on it.

Post by **f3rr37** » 24 Aug 2012, 19:56

Cyberfly wrote:We laugh, but its true.
Those Gen1 pics from Justin were...HORRIBLE.
Pink and blue fuzzy blurry blobs shaped somewhat like a rifle. And we'd all 'ooh' and 'ahh' over them to make him feel good...all the while wondering, 'WTF was that?!'
It was almost like someone smeared Vaseline over the camera lens...
We love him to death but his photo taking skills back in the day left a lot to be desired!
I think the best I could come at emulating one of his photos would be to jump up and down on a trampoline with a first generation camera phone and try to take a close up of a Corvette passing by at full throttle...

Hahahaha, sooo true.

Post by **Cyberfly** » 25 Aug 2012, 08:56

I wish I had the forethought back in the day...someone had posted a C&P of 'The People You Meet At A Gunshow'. I edited it to include my own little write up for Justin at the end.
He's the guy who can do anything with the Ruger 10/22. Thinks that a factory stock is heresy, and if left unattended, you'll find your small children and perhaps your cat dyed bright new primary colors.
Meh..I can't remember what all I wrote since it was off the cuff, but at the time, it made me chuckle as I typed.
While I enjoyed teasing him about it, if I ever had any questions about that platform, he'd definitely be the guy I'd call first. I don't think there's a mod he hasn't done to a 10/22 in the past, and he has a memory like a steel trap.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 25 Aug 2012, 09:12

Thanks, that's good information. Now I know who to talk to when I want to add a flux capacitor to my 10/22!

Post by **jmz5** » 27 Aug 2012, 04:04

Haha, maybe I'll dig them all out and get a family photo on of these days. The tie dye part might have been when I dyed the clear factor Ruger mags red to match one of my guns.

Oh wait, here is one of those gen1 photos now. :p

Post by **jmz5** » 27 Aug 2012, 04:05

I'm also trying to save money, and seeing this new 10/22 is making it hard.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 27 Aug 2012, 04:18

jmz5 wrote:I'm also trying to save money, and seeing this new 10/22 is making it hard.

Do I need to say it???

Post by **Cyberfly** » 27 Aug 2012, 05:17

Say it.
SAY IT!

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 27 Aug 2012, 06:33

Cyberfly wrote:Say it.
SAY IT!

TWSS

(it's like having friggen Tourette syndrome...)

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 27 Aug 2012, 11:55

jgreenberg01 wrote:And here it is action with the scope. Did it hold its zero after being taken down & reassembled?

You betcha.

Pretty decent scope too by the way...

Great setup. I'm getting one just like it. I know, copycat. Deal with it...

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 27 Aug 2012, 12:02

I can't blame you Irish. I'm a recent convert to .22lr and was really because of the price of ammo. I am so glad I did... this is a great gun!

Even better is that you can get decent glass for rimfire rifles at a reasonable price. Hell, even with the timney trigger I put in, it still didn't break the piggy bank.

I'm so happy with it that this is me:

Except I'm shouting "RUGER" instead of "Wolverines"...

(ignore the zombies that are coming up behind me...)

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 27 Aug 2012, 12:10

That's what I shout whenever I take out my Alaskan 454. And being that I often carry it in MT where there are wolverines, perhaps I will be able to shout both.

'oh crap, WOLVERINE!, RUGERRRR!'

Post by **Rapier1772** » 27 Aug 2012, 12:15

jgreenberg01 wrote:Hell, even with the timney trigger I put in, it still didn't break the piggy bank.

Uh yeah it does. Or at least it does my piggy bank. Trigger is 2/3 the cost of the rifle - ouch. I can't afford to splurge like that any more

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 03 Sep 2012, 06:43

This looks really interesting. I wonder what our resident expert thinks of this nifty little mod?

Magnum Research Magnum Lite® Rifles – Graphite Barrel Technology for the Ruger 1022

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/magnum- ... uger-1022/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **f3rr37** » 03 Sep 2012, 12:18

jgreenberg01 wrote:This looks really interesting. I wonder what our resident expert thinks of this nifty little mod?

Magnum Research Magnum Lite® Rifles – Graphite Barrel Technology for the Ruger 1022
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/magnum- ... uger-1022/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Basically just a carbon-fiber barrel... nothing new.

$0.02

Post by **jmz5** » 05 Sep 2012, 04:12

f3rr37 wrote:
jgreenberg01 wrote:This looks really interesting. I wonder what our resident expert thinks of this nifty little mod?

Magnum Research Magnum Lite® Rifles – Graphite Barrel Technology for the Ruger 1022
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/magnum- ... uger-1022/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Basically just a carbon-fiber barrel... nothing new.

$0.02

What he said.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 05 Sep 2012, 04:29

Ok, so I'm new to the platform and excited about all the stuff I can do. I get it: carbon fiber = meh. Let me ask you jaded experts ( :p ) this then... what do you think the best can is for this rifle? It also needs to work well with my M&P 22 handgun.

Looked at a few, saw all the youtube videos, but have never seen/heard one in action up close and personal. Have you had any good/bad experiences with cans on the 10/22?

Post by **Esteves** » 05 Sep 2012, 06:28

If I had more dollars than sense, I'd go this route: The Operative TD (Take-Down Complete Rifle) and get a second can for the handgun.
More budget friendly, the SS Sparrow and SWR Spectre II both get high marks (and will play the 5.7x28mm game too.)

I have a SS sparrow at my local SOT that's waiting for ATF to issue a stamp. It will see use on the 10/22s, amongst other firearms in my stable.

Post by **Cyberfly** » 05 Sep 2012, 06:40

Wait? The 'best' or the best available to purchase?
There IS a difference. :p

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 05 Sep 2012, 14:19

Thanks for the input Esteves! I had already narrowed the choice down to three options:

AAC Prodigy, SWR Spectre II, and the Sparrow.

I really wanted the Prodigy because of its weight, only 3.6oz - just over half the weight of the other two. Butttt the other two are rated for 5.7x28 and the Prodigy is not. If I know me, I'll end up with a threaded barrel some day for my FsN. It's also the only one of the three not rated for full auto. It's not that I will ever shoot F/A, but it does speak to durability.

I ended up going with the Spectre II.

I'll bring my 10/22 to my gunsmith this week to have the barrel threaded, then I'll spend the next 8 months staring at the threads...

Post by **blueorison** » 05 Sep 2012, 18:21

Dang, saw this, and I really want one. I've put off Rugers, Buckmarks, etc. etc. even at great prices, because I know I'd never have the time to go "plinking" with .22's. If I have time to plink, I'm usually hiking or doing something else, outdoors.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/prod ... R+Black+22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The downside is that I heard they suck at quality control. The 10/22's and the other take-down/packable .22 rifles do not come close to the packability and compactness and just pure utilitarian/simplicity of this design.

I wish they would make the AR7 to better standards, so I could buy one for packing. I thought of getting the .22, but it's not as space-efficient. I want a .22 pack rifle that fit its parts in the stock; anyone can help or know of one? Or maybe I'm wrong about the AR7 and they have a good version that works more often than not? I usually don't pay attention to 2nd hand reviews read online, but there is just too many negative reviews about the iffy quality.

Post by **Esteves** » 05 Sep 2012, 19:07

Here's how I'm thinking for a packing plinker

Unfortunately, they want a fair bit of coin.
http://www.agparms.com/agp-arms-take-down-10-22-sbr/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and Uncle Sam wants his dues too.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 05 Sep 2012, 19:13

Ok, that's purdy. And purdy expensive too for a 10/22!

Post by **jmz5** » 06 Sep 2012, 03:57

jgreenberg01 wrote:Ok, so I'm new to the platform and excited about all the stuff I can do. I get it: carbon fiber = meh. Let me ask you jaded experts ( :p ) this then... what do you think the best can is for this rifle? It also needs to work well with my M&P 22 handgun.

Looked at a few, saw all the youtube videos, but have never seen/heard one in action up close and personal. Have you had any good/bad experiences with cans on the 10/22?

I have a SWR sprectre and love it, but if I had to do it over again, I would get a sparrow.

The spectre is a tank, you won't damage it, there are youtube vids of SWR shooting full auto 223 through one.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 06 Sep 2012, 04:11

Yes, and I also looked at the noise reduction comparisons: the Spectre II outperforms them all by just a little, the original Spectre included. Ultimately those 2 things were the deciding factors - noise reduction & durability. Ok, price too.

It does look like it's the biggest PITA of the 3 to clean though.

Post by **jmz5** » 06 Sep 2012, 09:02

Go with the spectre then, it will out last the sparrow by a long long time.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 06 Sep 2012, 09:05

Thanks for the input - Spectre II paid for and my gun shop isn't even charging extra for babysitting it for 8 months and $200 sent to the ATF for my permission slip. What a deal.

Post by **jmz5** » 06 Sep 2012, 14:41

Get an ultrasonic cleaner and a gallon of purple power, you will thank me later. You won't have to do any scrubbing. There might, might be some buildup on the blast baffel that needs to be scraped off with a brush or a flat head screwdriver, but that's it.

Mix 50% near boiling water, and 50% purple power for your solution, run ten minutes and you should have a sparkly clean spectre. I don't recommend putting the tube in the solution even though it's SS.
When the baffles are clean, rinse them off in running water, the coat very lightly with what ever you choose to coat stuff with, I like Mpro-7, it's odorless and non toxic.

If you want stupid quiet on your 10/22, get a urethane bolt buffer, they are cake to replace, it will stop the "clank" on each shot.
http://www.shootersdiscount.com/cart/in ... ct_id=1184" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My spectre is going out for the upgrade to 2 on monday.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 06 Sep 2012, 15:34

Thanks for the heads-up on the ultrasonic cleaner. I could use that for way more than just this one can. The spring in the LID on my Gemtech Blackside is nearly impossible to get clean.

Do you know if the urethane buffer works properly with the Timney drop-in trigger installed?

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=4461 ... R-ASSEMBLY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **jmz5** » 06 Sep 2012, 16:48

It will, it just replaces the bolt stop pin.

Don't put your Gemtech in the ultrasonic cleaner, don't put any aluminum anything it it.

If you aren't familiar with cavitation, you will be after an ultrasonic cleaner turns your aluminum can into swiss cheese.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 06 Sep 2012, 16:53

jmz5 wrote:It will, it just replaces the bolt stop pin.

Don't put your Gemtech in the ultrasonic cleaner, don't put any aluminum anything it it.

If you aren't familiar with cavitation, you will be after an ultrasonic cleaner turns your aluminum can into swiss cheese.

No, not the baffles, I just meant the spring which is steel.

That's the same reason you should use non water based ablatives, like wire pulling gel, in a "wet" can that has aluminum baffles.

Post by **jmz5** » 06 Sep 2012, 16:55

Spit works well as an ablative. :laugh:

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 07 Sep 2012, 04:03

That would take a lot of spit. Would practically have to be a chronic drooler to make that work...

Thanks for the ultrasound idea - I wish I had thought of it earlier. It just hit me that it can be used for almost anything not aluminum. You could virtually drop your slide in for example and let it do the majority of the work for you. Do you clean your other guns like that? And if so, which one do you use?

Post by **jmz5** » 07 Sep 2012, 09:29

I use it to clean my silencer guts, reloading dies and other random stuff. I clean my guns the old fashion way.

Post by **f3rr37** » 07 Sep 2012, 11:19

I use mine to clean my bolt/bolt carrier from my AR. Works wonders.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 14 Sep 2012, 14:41

Well I had my 10/22 barrel threaded (only 8 months in advance of getting my stamp) and had the barrel cut down from 18" to 16". As I'm sure you're aware, the front sight goes away when you do that and I want to find an after market bolt-on or on that attaches by tapping the barrel that will work with the factory flip-up rear sight.

I have exhausted my google-fu prowess searching for this to no avail, and am hoping that one of the resident 10/22 gurus might know if this even exists. This is nothing urgent because there's a scope mounted on it, but I'm a believer in having iron back-ups.

Post by **f3rr37** » 14 Sep 2012, 16:27

Why not have a dove-tail re-cut for it?

Post by **Esteves** » 14 Sep 2012, 18:00

Not quite answering jgreenberg's question - Various options http://www.nodakspud.com/NDS-22.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The NDS-44 front sight in combination with an NDS-26 might fit the bill.

f3rr37's suggestion is more straight-forward.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 14 Sep 2012, 18:08

f3rr37 wrote:Why not have a dove-tail re-cut for it?

Good question. Because the dovetail wasn't cut into the barrel, it was raised above the barrel. That means that without finding a way to raise it, any standard dovetail replacement front sight will be too low to be used with the flip-up sight that is already mounted to the barrel:

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 14 Sep 2012, 18:11

Esteves wrote:Not quite answering jgreenberg's question - Various options http://www.nodakspud.com/NDS-22.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The NDS-44 front sight in combination with an NDS-26 might fit the bill.

f3rr37's suggestion is more straight-forward.

Thanks, I saw those. I'm trying to use the rear flip-up sight that is factory mounted on the barrel.

PainKillaX · Post by **PainKillaX** » 14 Sep 2012, 18:35

Take the left over bit, bore out the barrel so all you have left is the wider part with the front sight mounted on it, then find a way to make it fit on the barrel you've got now. I made that up but maybe it'll work?

Post by **Esteves** » 15 Sep 2012, 04:39

These guys do what you're asking for, and are on my short-list for some of the work that I have in mind (favorable reviews from around the 'net): http://jpgrips.com/page4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 15 Sep 2012, 04:43

That's what I need. Thank you!

Magellan · Post by **Magellan** » 18 Nov 2012, 09:08

Now you need a Butler Creek speed loader for those 25 round mags.
I have a older 10-22 with a Bushnell scope ( I bought it that way at a gun show)
I added a BiPod, a mag release extension and 2) 25 round clips.
Economical fun shooting and a great companion to my Browning Buckmark Contour 22lr.

Vortec MAX · Post by **Vortec MAX** » 19 Nov 2012, 07:11

Magellan wrote:Now you need a Butler Creek speed loader for those 25 round mags.

Has anyone tried using the Butler Creek speedloader with the new Ruger BX-25 magazines? It says on the packaging for the Butler Creek speedloader that they only work with Butler Creek Steel Lips mags, but I was wondering if that was really true.

Anyone tried?

Mike

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 06 Mar 2013, 11:28

Ok, tax stamp came in and this rifle is done now too (I think):

Mods:
Nikon P-22 2-7x32 Scope w/BDC 150 Reticle
Weaver Lever Lok Quick Release 1" High Rings
Timney Ruger 10/22 Drop-in Trigger Red
Urethane bolt buffer
Chopped barrel from 18" to 16" and threaded
SWR Spectre II suppressor

And yes, it does fit into the carry bag the rifle without taking the scope or suppressor off!

Post by **jmz5** » 06 Mar 2013, 11:42

The spectre 2 rules.

You forgot to add a urethane bolt buffer.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 06 Mar 2013, 11:46

jmz5 wrote:The spectre 2 rules.

You forgot to add a urethane bolt buffer.

Thanks for reminding me - I added that on your recommendation. Post fixed.

Videos coming next week with regular & subsonic ammo. Can't wait to see how quiet this thing is...

Vortec MAX · Post by **Vortec MAX** » 06 Mar 2013, 17:17

jgreenberg01 wrote:Mods:
Nikon P-22 2-7x32 Scope w/BDC 150 Reticle
Weaver Lever Lok Quick Release 1" High Rings
Timney Ruger 10/22 Drop-in Trigger Red
Urethane bolt buffer
Chopped barrel from 18" to 16" and threaded
SWR Spectre II suppressor

And yes, it does fit into the carry bag the rifle without taking the scope or suppressor off!

That's the same scope I put on my son's takedown. I haven't been able to get it in the bag without first removing the scope. How'd you do it?

Mike

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 06 Mar 2013, 17:47

Vortec MAX wrote:
jgreenberg01 wrote:Mods:
Nikon P-22 2-7x32 Scope w/BDC 150 Reticle
Weaver Lever Lok Quick Release 1" High Rings
Timney Ruger 10/22 Drop-in Trigger Red
Urethane bolt buffer
Chopped barrel from 18" to 16" and threaded
SWR Spectre II suppressor

And yes, it does fit into the carry bag the rifle without taking the scope or suppressor off!
That's the same scope I put on my son's takedown. I haven't been able to get it in the bag without first removing the scope. How'd you do it?

Mike

I don't know how to answer that other than by saying: just slide it in there.

Yeah, yeah, I know :twss:

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