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Post by srt-4_jon » 16 Feb 2011, 23:11

I got an email from Botachtactical.com about a 25% off Magpul sale good through the end of today (17th). I ordered a UBR stock, (5) 20rd pmags, MOE grip, Enhanced trigger guard, and Hogue handall for the same price as the UBR stock when it isnt on sale.
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Post by panzermk2 » 16 Feb 2011, 23:38

AH you said you got, as in you ordered AND you have received them? OR you ordered them and you are waiting on them,?
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Post by srt-4_jon » 16 Feb 2011, 23:41

clarified op.

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Post by blueorison » 16 Feb 2011, 23:48

Why did this post just pop up for me?

Too late :(

... it's ok.. I don't usually buy Magpul.
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Post by srt-4_jon » 16 Feb 2011, 23:53

look at the date again. It ends in 23 hours

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Post by blueorison » 17 Feb 2011, 00:04

oops. Welcome to blue's midnight world.

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Thanks, Jon!
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Post by Zhurdan » 17 Feb 2011, 07:02

Good luck with Botachtactical.com. They've been hit and miss over the years with their service. Nice enough people, I think they're just a little too big for their britches.

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Post by murphies_finest » 17 Feb 2011, 07:43

I am quite happy with my stock M&P15 with the eotech attached on top. thank you for your help

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Post by srt-4_jon » 17 Feb 2011, 12:28

Zhurdan wrote:Good luck with Botachtactical.com. They've been hit and miss over the years with their service. Nice enough people, I think they're just a little too big for their britches.
Yeah, I had read that before. I have placed 2 different orders totalling only $500 and they came in quick and with 0 problems.

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Post by Zhurdan » 17 Feb 2011, 13:14

I've ordered from them about 6 times. the first 3 went off without a hitch. The last three on the other hand... well, lets just say I should have learned after the first two. Still got everything I ordered, but there were delays (8 weeks for an "in stock" item) and returns of wrong products shipped. Still, they have decent sales from time to time if you don't mind waiting for your stuff.

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Post by srt-4_jon » 17 Feb 2011, 13:40

A wait it worth it to me for a $180 ubr stock. Damn NFA items force me to be patient

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Post by drinksabit » 18 Feb 2011, 12:02

:ponder: Hope this is the place to ask AR questions. I am really ignorant about AR's, but would like to eventually learn enough to buy, assemble, and use one.

First question: Is a lower machined form a solid billet of aluminum, in general, better quality than a forged lower? I guess the key words are "in general". I do hope the question lends itself to factual rather than opinion based answers. I am hoping the consensus opinion of forged being just as good or better. I am liking Bravo Company Mfg. parts and pieces.

Thank you for any helpful response you might make.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 18 Feb 2011, 23:30

Sorry, but no one that knows anything about custom ARs will tell you that forged is even close to as good as billet. I wish it were true, my wallet would be heavier.

There is no debating that a matched billet lower with a billet upper will shoot tighter than forged. My SI-Defense shoots in the fives at 100 yards (.5-.6 MOA). Their forged version still shoots under MOA, but only just. The AR experts to a man will tell you to go the billet way. If you just go the lower route and do forged for the upper, and don't fit them, like a matched pair, you won't gain anything. If you do, it won't be as ideal as a billet. It will be heavier, not as trued as if you went with the whole matched pair of billet receivers.

Also, billet is way lighter. Something that matters with ARs and accessories.

Forged is simply not as good at all. In no way at all. It is heavier, not as sturdy, and made to a lower standard. You can't compare them to Custom Billet ARs. I own both variations, standard manufactured and custom manufactured (RRA, DPMS, used to own a Bushmaster, used to own a SI-Defense Forged, own a Billet version of theirs). For the money, I see no reason to own a custom forged AR at all. None whatsoever. Buy a RRA or DPMS for less and you will have a better value gun. If you want something that is special, pay for the billet.
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Post by fzr confused » 19 Feb 2011, 06:18

I agree 100% with the above. I love my RRA and have put several thousand rounds through it and I can put wholes through dimes at 100 yards with iron sites.

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Post by drinksabit » 19 Feb 2011, 10:31

So it is full circle then. I started out looking at Rock River, and now you say that is where i should have stayed looking.

Thank you so much for the advice with some explaination behind it. I'll be sure to post my next question here when I have a next question that I can't seem to answer myself.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 19 Feb 2011, 12:55

Yes, RRA is good, not great, nor ideal, but probably the best value out there. But just so you know, that is a forged firearm it won't shoot with the custom billets. You may be able to hit dimes at a hundred occassionally, but you won't group in a dime at a 100. Sorry, not possible. Some guys I know with heavy barrels can shoot in the 7s with them, one I know that shoots in the high 6s consistently, but they are Honus Wagner rare. The SR-25 struggles to shoot in the 3s, and that is about as good as it gets semi-auto, oh and it is a custom billeted AR platform.
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Post by fzr confused » 19 Feb 2011, 15:36

no, the RRA will not group every round in a dime, not even close. but for the money, i find it one of the best choices for an ar. this gun is far more accurate than i have the ability to make it, but even i can make it rather accurate.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 19 Feb 2011, 15:53

yeah, they are great setups. I just didn't want the guy to get one and expect it to shoot that way is all. I was just clarifying. If I were buying a stock, non-piston AR, I would go with RRA hands down. My second choice would be DPMS.
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Post by srt-4_jon » 23 Feb 2011, 14:41

Fyi, I got my stock in today along with an email that said the sale is still good. I don't know how much longer though

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Post by fzr confused » 23 Feb 2011, 15:13

that was pretty quick for a company that has so many iffy reviews :)...that is a pretty sweet looking stock btw.

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