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fzr confused
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Post subject: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:47 am |
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:33 pm Posts: 1112 Location: south fl
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I'm looking to get a .500 S&W as my next purchase, hoping for around Christmas or tax return time. Now is getting the actual S&W worth the extra few hundred over the raging bull from Taurus? The raging bull has the 10" barrel and I was originally looking at the 8 3/8" barrel on the S&W.
Also I was looking at either the .500 or the .460, which would you pick and why? I'm leaning more toward the .500 just because it's the "most powerful production revoler". I will use it for hunting, but in FL neither is "needed" lol but my uncles go up north for bigger game and would like to use it up there.
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flyingirish04
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:03 am |
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Mtn Man in Flatland
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I think you can only get the Taurus in 454 at the highest. Personally, if SW was the only option, I would go with the 460, mainly because you can shoot three different rounds through it (460, 454, 45LC). In all honestly, I prefer the 454 because I don't like the x-frame, but favor the Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan. That one you can shoot 45LC as well, so you can practice with lower rounds and save the wrist wrenchers for the bruins.
_________________ Killed Two Stones with One Bird.
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fzr confused
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:12 am |
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The raging bull does come in .500 now  but not the .460 (as far as I can tell). I wanted the raging bull in .454 but figured might as well go "big boy"
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Vortec MAX
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:25 am |
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After my experiences with Taurus revolvers, I would pay twice as much money for a Smith and Wesson.
Mike
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flyingirish04
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:30 am |
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Mtn Man in Flatland
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Interesting. Didn't know that. I would go for the 454 then if you want a taurus, for the same reason I posted above. You can get a model of the judge that shoots 454, 45LC, and 410. Might be worth a look. I still think the RugerAlaskan is the best big game defense gun on the market.
_________________ Killed Two Stones with One Bird.
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fzr confused
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:43 am |
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:33 pm Posts: 1112 Location: south fl
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I absolutely HATE my Taurus pt140, only for the extremely crappy trigger. My J frame Taurus I like though...minus the cylinder lock that broke lol. I like the look of the raging bull better, looks "meaner" but I want a good quality of a gun too. Wasn't sure if the raging bull was of better construction.
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blueorison
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:11 pm |
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flyingirish04 wrote: I still think the RugerAlaskan is the best big game defense gun on the market. Yes. Fzr, to me this is a null question. There is no answer simply because it shouldn't be a question. Get the S&W .500. Then go shoot at 200 yards with it and watch it demolish. There are very critical things that go into a wheel gun vs. a semi-auto. With wheel guns don't mess around, or you might as well throw the entire gun away. I did rapids with a short bbl. .500 comp'd and as always, it delivered. Make the right choice. Or go with the Ruger, you'll do alot more shooting with it unless you're honest with yourself and still want to do dedicated shooting with the .500, which is very doable.
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fzr confused
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:22 pm |
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I've shot the 2.5" S&W and I liked it a lot. I'm fine with the ammo price and all that, it's not gunna be a huge range gun, just a few rounds each time  .... Ok so S&W looks a lot better, now is the 8 3/8" barrel a good choice? I see the "bone collector" on their site and that thing is amazing!!!! But $1600+ as apposed to 1050-1100 for the regular gun and shorter barrel lol.
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flyingirish04
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:34 pm |
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Mtn Man in Flatland
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Sounds like you have your heart set on the 500 then. Look forward to the range report and pics!!!!
_________________ Killed Two Stones with One Bird.
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fzr confused
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:04 pm |
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im not 100% set on it, more like 98% lol
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blueorison
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:06 pm |
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fzr confused wrote: I've shot the 2.5" S&W and I liked it a lot. I'm fine with the ammo price and all that, it's not gunna be a huge range gun, just a few rounds each time  .... Ok so S&W looks a lot better, now is the 8 3/8" barrel a good choice? I see the "bone collector" on their site and that thing is amazing!!!! But $1600+ as apposed to 1050-1100 for the regular gun and shorter barrel lol. I checked it out. If I were in your position, I would put down the cash no questions asked for the performance center Bone Collector. Like I said, with Revolvers I'd make sure I get the BEST. With semi's, I won't mind and even LOVE finding $300 used CZ's that are combat revolvers and shoot them instead of $3000 STI's. It's because they work so well with a little tuning. But with Revolvers I wouldn't pass up a performance center .500. It's not just another 686, it's the ultimate revolver. Grain, velocity, quality of firearm, and if you ever have a problem with it, the performance center SHOULD take care of it.
_________________ I do not deserve this life I have been given. Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity. The shooter will always matter more than the gear ever will. Please realize correlation =/= causation. Plural opinions don't equate to truth.
I throw sub-MOA rocks.
Stop relying on others to do the work for you. Challenge the brainwashed. Shoot more, worry less. Use the search function. Smile. Always. .' ]
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fzr confused
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:10 pm |
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but the regular S&W and Taurus both have lifetime warranties too, so any of the 3 should be taken care of if i have a problem with them  . im not knocking your opinion at all, just saying what i think and idk if i myself can justify more than double the cost of the raging bull basically and 5-600 more (if you can find one, seeing as there are only 1000 made) over the basic S&W. im a poor man with expensive taste lol im thinking i'll get this one http://www.impactguns.com/store/022188702316.htmlbut NOT from them...i hate impact....
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blueorison
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:21 pm |
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fzr confused wrote: but the regular S&W and Taurus both have lifetime warranties too, so any of the 3 should be taken care of if i have a problem with them  . im not knocking your opinion at all, just saying what i think and idk if i myself can justify more than double the cost of the raging bull basically and 5-600 more (if you can find one, seeing as there are only 1000 made) over the basic S&W. im a poor man with expensive taste lol im thinking i'll get this one http://www.impactguns.com/store/022188702316.htmlbut NOT from them...i hate impact.... Can't go wrong, looks good, bro. I personally would get the short bbl with the break, it's ALOT more fun that the long bbl. Seeing this is a fun gun, that's my advice. The one in the impact gun link is more for long distance (100-300) yd shooting and serious hunting. You could use it for a range gun, of course, but it's more for bench shooting than offhand, which is much more fun. If you cannot justify the extra 600$ (mainly b/c it's a perf center gun), then I'd get the short version with the brake. You won't regret it. It's also very accurate.
_________________ I do not deserve this life I have been given. Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity. The shooter will always matter more than the gear ever will. Please realize correlation =/= causation. Plural opinions don't equate to truth.
I throw sub-MOA rocks.
Stop relying on others to do the work for you. Challenge the brainwashed. Shoot more, worry less. Use the search function. Smile. Always. .' ]
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flyingirish04
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:27 pm |
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Mtn Man in Flatland
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Quick question, where do you see a 500 in Taurus? Can't find one on their site.
_________________ Killed Two Stones with One Bird.
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fzr confused
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:39 pm |
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I was wanting the 8 3/8" barrel for a long time, and it's a bit cheaper but the other comes with a rail for optics (which in reality, I won't put on lol).
In accuracy which is better, .460 or .500?
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fzr confused
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:40 pm |
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I found the raging bull on gun broker and on buds guns.
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flyingirish04
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:00 pm |
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Mtn Man in Flatland
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460 is more accurate at range. Yeah, I don't think the gunbroker ad shows a model that is made anymore. Taurus only goes up to a 454 Casull according to their site.
_________________ Killed Two Stones with One Bird.
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blueorison
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:12 pm |
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flyingirish04 wrote: 460 is more accurate at range. Yeah, I don't think the gunbroker ad shows a model that is made anymore. Taurus only goes up to a 454 Casull according to their site. ^ PEW PEW But hey, Irish, if you're shooting someone with a .500 does SHOT PLACEMENT really MATTER?!!!! hahaha jk jk
_________________ I do not deserve this life I have been given. Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity. The shooter will always matter more than the gear ever will. Please realize correlation =/= causation. Plural opinions don't equate to truth.
I throw sub-MOA rocks.
Stop relying on others to do the work for you. Challenge the brainwashed. Shoot more, worry less. Use the search function. Smile. Always. .' ]
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:15 pm |
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blueorison wrote: flyingirish04 wrote: 460 is more accurate at range. Yeah, I don't think the gunbroker ad shows a model that is made anymore. Taurus only goes up to a 454 Casull according to their site. ^ PEW PEW But hey, Irish, if you're shooting someone with a .500 does SHOT PLACEMENT really MATTER?!!!! hahaha jk jk Shot placement would matter less than shooting people with our plastic .22 mag 
_________________ "You will find men who want to be carried on the shoulders of others, who think that the world owes them a living. They don't seem to see that we must all lift together and pull together."---Henry Ford "Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of the men who follow and of the man who leads that gains that victory."---George S. Patton "He who fears being conquered is certain of defeat."---Napoleon
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fzr confused
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Post subject: Re: Raging bull vs S&W  Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:28 pm |
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the more i look at the raging bull the more i think it looks "cheap"...it looks pretty mean sure (the barrel area i think) but the rest of it really looks cheap.... im really into accuracy and "showing off", yes i am that D-bag at the range that tries to shoot dimes and stuff, which i do  . made 100 bucks one day off my buddy that bet me 50 that i couldnt hit a quarter with my ar and iron sites at 100 yards without a spotter in 3 shots. took my 3 shots and 1 nailed it...double or nothing a dime in 5...nailed it too  . ^not saying or acting like i am the best shot, just stating that i am really into accuracy.
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