10mm CCW

PainKillaX · Post by **PainKillaX** » 05 Dec 2010, 01:26

blueorison wrote:
swe123 wrote:The nice thing is they are about half the price of Wilsons, Browns, Baers and Nighthawks with simular quality. I'll bring a few to play with.
I've shot Wilsons, Nighthawks, and many Baers. No clue what Browns are.

I think he means Ed Browns. Could be wrong though

SHEEPDOG · Post by **SHEEPDOG** » 05 Dec 2010, 10:24

Many of the parts in Dan Wessons are made by Ed Brown. They have no mim parts, if that is important to you. Few makers can say that.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 08 Dec 2010, 16:49

Just in time for Christmas :clap: There was a "gently used" DW SS CBOB on Gunbroker. Guess who got it

This Christmas is breaking the bank with me, I just bought a new rifle too :wall: Maybe I need to join a support group? Gun buyers anonymous? I definitely need to quit buying these things :facepalm:

SeaHawkDriver-B · Post by **SeaHawkDriver-B** » 08 Dec 2010, 17:18

I've never owned a CBOB, but I did have a TBOB when I was younger.

SHEEPDOG · Post by **SHEEPDOG** » 08 Dec 2010, 17:24

Rapier1772 wrote:Just in time for Christmas :clap: There was a "gently used" DW SS CBOB on Gunbroker. Guess who got it This Christmas is breaking the bank with me, I just bought a new rifle too :wall: Maybe I need to join a support group? Gun buyers anonymous? I definitely need to quit buying these things :facepalm:

Congratulations!

I hope you got a good deal. Prices on DW's have gone nuts. They are still worth it. The 10mm is back for 2011. I have an Aussi, and two two tones. I am waiting on one of the original "150" Razobacks.

LK45s · Post by **LK45s** » 08 Dec 2010, 17:29

Congratulations Rapier! My son has also got the sickness now. He found a 6" S&W 610 on Gun Broker that he just HAD to have. :laugh:

Rapier1772 wrote:Just in time for Christmas :clap: There was a "gently used" DW SS CBOB on Gunbroker. Guess who got it This Christmas is breaking the bank with me, I just bought a new rifle too :wall: Maybe I need to join a support group? Gun buyers anonymous? I definitely need to quit buying these things :facepalm:

Post by **Rapier1772** » 08 Dec 2010, 17:36

swe123 wrote:I hope you got a good deal. Prices on DW's have gone nuts.

I noticed that. Remember the new one I was whining about missing out on? It went for near $1500 on GB. This one, after shipping & FFL is still less that $1K. Didn't want to wait for a bidding war that would again take it over $1200, so I hit the BIN

He said I broke his 13yr record for how quickly he sold anything :laugh:

swe123 wrote:The 10mm is back for 2011.

SMEG! I would have preferred a new one (usually more shiner

) but oh well. The seller is an actual gun shop & has a guarantee on it so I should be good if anything isn't up to par.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 18 Dec 2010, 17:28

My new pistol came in today; a Dan Wesson 10mm CBOB in stainless steel. I was headed for the range w/the PTR when I got the call that the DW was in. By the time I got done getting it, the snow was coming down pretty hard so I headed to the other one (indoor)

Unfortunately, the DW doesn't like one of the mags & it doesn't want to lock open with either mag that came with it. But before I got crying to anyone, I am going to give it a good cleaning & buy some new mags. It is used & the springs in the old ones just may not be strong enough

fzr confused · Post by **fzr confused** » 18 Dec 2010, 18:41

pretty sexy

LK45s · Post by **LK45s** » 18 Dec 2010, 20:37

Congratulations Rapier!
It doesn't look too used. What ammo did you use?

Post by **Rapier1772** » 18 Dec 2010, 20:59

LK45s wrote:Congratulations Rapier!
It doesn't look too used. What ammo did you use?

Thanks. It is in pretty good condition. I used some SD ammo I still had in the truck from the EAA conversion fiasco :facepalm: Winchester 165gr Silvertip HP. Nobody has 10mm target rounds around here :wall: Unfortunately, I didn't mark the uncooperative mag well enough & now I have to go shoot it again to find out which mag is which. The one mag had no problems at all, the other was... well, like I said - uncooperative. :skep:

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 18 Dec 2010, 21:40

PainKillaX wrote:
blueorison wrote:
swe123 wrote:The nice thing is they are about half the price of Wilsons, Browns, Baers and Nighthawks with simular quality. I'll bring a few to play with.
I've shot Wilsons, Nighthawks, and many Baers. No clue what Browns are.
I think he means Ed Browns. Could be wrong though

I will make it simple for you: You pay more for a 1911 than you have to with a custom shop Kimber, you overpaid. Nothing outshoots a Custom Shop Kimber.

Post by **Cyberfly** » 20 Dec 2010, 06:38

Congrats Rapier.
I'm officially jealous.

SHEEPDOG · Post by **SHEEPDOG** » 20 Dec 2010, 06:48

Congrats rapier, looks like new. You got a good deal IMHO. Since the 10mm got dropped the prices went through the roof.I posted that the 10mm was back in 2011 i just wanted ya'll to know it wasn't gone forever. Now it looks like the 10mm will be on a limited production.

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 20 Dec 2010, 07:01

Rapier1772 wrote:My new pistol came in today; a Dan Wesson 10mm CBOB in stainless steel. I was headed for the range w/the PTR when I got the call that the DW was in. By the time I got done getting it, the snow was coming down pretty hard so I headed to the other one (indoor) Unfortunately, the DW doesn't like one of the mags & it doesn't want to lock open with either mag that came with it. But before I got crying to anyone, I am going to give it a good cleaning & buy some new mags. It is used & the springs in the old ones just may not be strong enough

Beautiful. So jealous.

SHEEPDOG · Post by **SHEEPDOG** » 20 Dec 2010, 07:09

Rapier1772 wrote:My new pistol came in today; a Dan Wesson 10mm CBOB in stainless steel. I was headed for the range w/the PTR when I got the call that the DW was in. By the time I got done getting it, the snow was coming down pretty hard so I headed to the other one (indoor) Unfortunately, the DW doesn't like one of the mags & it doesn't want to lock open with either mag that came with it. But before I got crying to anyone, I am going to give it a good cleaning & buy some new mags. It is used & the springs in the old ones just may not be strong enough

Tripp Research work well in mine. :thumb:

Post by **Rapier1772** » 20 Dec 2010, 09:44

swe123 wrote:Tripp Research work well in mine. :thumb:

The plastic base plate doesn't interfere? Looks like it sticks up into the magwell a bit

troy_mclure · Post by **troy_mclure** » 20 Dec 2010, 19:20

i often oc and ccw my dan wesson razorback 10mm.

for urban i use 165gr silver tips, for woods i use 180gr corbon hunters.

SHEEPDOG · Post by **SHEEPDOG** » 21 Dec 2010, 08:22

The Tripps stick out some. CMC mags work well also and they make a flush mags.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 21 Dec 2010, 19:35

I found out that the Kimber 10mm mags also work in the DW. Gun shop says any 10mm mag for the 1911 frame will work

Right now, it looks like the problem was my mag springs. I used the new Kimber mags & it is locking open consistently.

SHEEPDOG · Post by **SHEEPDOG** » 21 Dec 2010, 21:53

A suggestion is to lube with FP10 or I use mobil 1. The tight tolerances and stainless on stainless seems to work better with higher viscosity oils. I ran mine the first time with rem oil, fired 3 rounds and locked up tight as a drum.

fzr confused · Post by **fzr confused** » 22 Dec 2010, 10:18

I've seen a lot people use and suggest mobil1 on here, but what weight? Thanks

variable · Post by **variable** » 30 Dec 2010, 19:09

panzermk2 wrote:
Rapier1772 wrote:I found a guy who is willing to sell me his used S&W 1076 for $650. Its in good condition but not 'mint' condition. Here's the rub - he says it is the FBI version but it has a mag safety on it; I researched it & found the FBI models are not supposed to have that. I checked gun broker but they don't have any 1076s for sale one way or the other. Anyone know how much the non-FBI version should go for these days? I searched the web & couldn't find a recent price, doesn't help that I gave my gun value book away either :wall:

That gun is a steal and a great deal for that price. I have seen them sell for double that. These are rare as hens teeth and demand the most money from S&W 10mm collectors.

The 1076 was adopted by the FBI. It was available in two versions. One (the commercial version) had the traditional S&W magazine dis connector, where the firearm WOULD NOT go bang if the mag were dropped out in a situation where an officer were fighting to retain possession, and needed to disable the gun. The FBI not-for-retail version did not have the mag disconnect. Presumably the agents required a "live gun" at ALL times and had S&W remove this feature. FBI refurbished guns are available to the public now, and are easily spotted by the inscription on the slide, "CAUTION: CAPABLE OF FIRING WITH MAGAZINE REMOVED"

The 1076 is a reasonably compact, reliable, gun that caused a small number of S&W frame decocker models to follow, no doubt S&W hoped to get a toehold into the frame decocker market.

The 1076 was Manufactured 1990-1993, there were still some available into 1994 new in box. Re-Furbished FBI models were offered through 1996.

Late but:

I removed my magazine safety by removing the rear sight and pulling out the plastic plug and spring.

It now fires without a magazine in it.

I am still waiting for Vltor to release the improved Bren 10!

http://vltor.wordpress.com/

V
OUT

SeaHawkDriver-B · Post by **SeaHawkDriver-B** » 31 Dec 2010, 08:20

I think I'm going to buy an EAA Witness Elite Match in 10mm and start woods carrying with that instead of my G20.

SHEEPDOG · Post by **SHEEPDOG** » 31 Dec 2010, 23:56

panzermk2 wrote:
swe123 wrote:The nice thing is they are about half the price of Wilsons, Browns, Baers and Nighthawks with simular quality. I'll bring a few to play with.

Llagoud has a DW and loves it. It loves my 10mm ammo also.

Mine does too , but I can't ever find the brass.

remat457 · Post by **remat457** » 01 Jan 2011, 14:45

Looks like EAA will be bringing in another CZ-type 10mm, this one from Turkey. Supposed to be available in Feb.

troy_mclure · Post by **troy_mclure** » 01 Jan 2011, 21:53

variable wrote:
panzermk2 wrote:
Rapier1772 wrote:I found a guy who is willing to sell me his used S&W 1076 for $650. Its in good condition but not 'mint' condition. Here's the rub - he says it is the FBI version but it has a mag safety on it; I researched it & found the FBI models are not supposed to have that. I checked gun broker but they don't have any 1076s for sale one way or the other. Anyone know how much the non-FBI version should go for these days? I searched the web & couldn't find a recent price, doesn't help that I gave my gun value book away either :wall:

That gun is a steal and a great deal for that price. I have seen them sell for double that. These are rare as hens teeth and demand the most money from S&W 10mm collectors.

The 1076 was adopted by the FBI. It was available in two versions. One (the commercial version) had the traditional S&W magazine dis connector, where the firearm WOULD NOT go bang if the mag were dropped out in a situation where an officer were fighting to retain possession, and needed to disable the gun. The FBI not-for-retail version did not have the mag disconnect. Presumably the agents required a "live gun" at ALL times and had S&W remove this feature. FBI refurbished guns are available to the public now, and are easily spotted by the inscription on the slide, "CAUTION: CAPABLE OF FIRING WITH MAGAZINE REMOVED"

The 1076 is a reasonably compact, reliable, gun that caused a small number of S&W frame decocker models to follow, no doubt S&W hoped to get a toehold into the frame decocker market.

The 1076 was Manufactured 1990-1993, there were still some available into 1994 new in box. Re-Furbished FBI models were offered through 1996.

I am still waiting for Vltor to release the improved Bren 10!

http://vltor.wordpress.com/

V
OUT

never gonna happen, ive been watching for years, its issue after issue.

Post by **Cyberfly** » 03 Jan 2011, 00:23

remat457 wrote:Looks like EAA will be bringing in another CZ-type 10mm, this one from Turkey. Supposed to be available in Feb.

Well, I can't say as to what the fit and finish of THIS particular weapon will be, but I can say for sure that the Tanfoglio Italian made Witness Match models are worth every penny.
I'm thinking very seriously of picking up another after tax rebate season. :ponder:

Post by **Rapier1772** » 24 Jun 2011, 20:35

Think I should change my recoil spring in my CBOB. I know they use Wolff springs but not sure what rating. I'm not sure which one is on it now, but its pretty stiff.
Would a 22lb be ok or should I go a bit higher?

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 24 Jun 2011, 20:41

In a commander sized 1911 10mm, 22 lbs is plenty.

Post by **blueorison** » 24 Jun 2011, 21:16

IMO that's a bit too high of lb for a shorter slide. 20 is more than fine.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 24 Jun 2011, 21:22

Thanks. I think the current spring is a 22 but since I bought it used, I don't know for certain - just know its stiffer than anything else I have right now :laugh:

Post by **blueorison** » 24 Jun 2011, 21:33

Nevermind I thought it was .45.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 24 Jun 2011, 22:04

blueorison wrote:Nevermind I thought it was .45.

I understand... The big "10mm CCW" title at the top of the thread throws everyone off :facepalm: :p

Post by **panzermk2** » 25 Jun 2011, 11:46

Rapier1772 wrote:
blueorison wrote:Nevermind I thought it was .45.
I understand... The big "10mm CCW" title at the top of the thread throws everyone off :facepalm: :p

:lmao: :lmao:

SHEEPDOG · Post by **SHEEPDOG** » 25 Jun 2011, 12:05

Rapier1772 wrote:Think I should change my recoil spring in my CBOB. I know they use Wolff springs but not sure what rating. I'm not sure which one is on it now, but its pretty stiff.
Would a 22lb be ok or should I go a bit higher?

According to Keith at Dan Wesson the standard spring weight of a 10mm DW Commander is 22lbs.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 25 Jun 2011, 18:09

SHEEPDOG wrote:
Rapier1772 wrote:Think I should change my recoil spring in my CBOB. I know they use Wolff springs but not sure what rating. I'm not sure which one is on it now, but its pretty stiff.
Would a 22lb be ok or should I go a bit higher?
According to Keith at Dan Wesson the standard spring weight of a 10mm DW Commander is 22lbs.

Great, I'll stick with that then, thanks. I also have to order a new spring for my Kimber, it's been stove piping recently & it didn't used to do that :wall: Midway should love me by now :laugh: :facepalm:

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 25 Jun 2011, 19:00

How many round do you have through it? Might have a bad extractor spring. Some of the non custom shop models have that problem around the 1000 round mark.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 25 Jun 2011, 19:21

This is a Kimber Custom - I've put around 400-500 rounds through it I think

I bought it used, he said he didn't put many through it. I'll change the recoil spring & if that doesn't work then I'll contact kimber I guess

Tachycardia · Post by **Tachycardia** » 25 Jun 2011, 19:29

How is the recoil on these compact 10's?

SHEEPDOG · Post by **SHEEPDOG** » 26 Jun 2011, 18:03

Compared to a 45 it is a little snappy. The feeling is exuberayting! If you are a Competition shooter used to half loaded 9mm's it will be quite noticeable. :p

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