Welp, looking for a second pistol.

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Re: Welp, looking for a second pistol.

Post by PainKillaX » 13 Mar 2013, 22:10

Time to get a German shorthaired pointer. And teach it to shoot pistols. Then give it CZs.

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Re: Welp, looking for a second pistol.

Post by Drayco » 16 Mar 2013, 20:48

:topic:

*Reads thread... Refreshes page... Rereads...*

Huh... Topic derailed and not by me... I... I don't know what to do, here... This is a new feeling for me...

Going to gun show tomorrow, will be seeing what's there, possibly shopping around, depends on how much is left. (Third day of a show, they might all be cleaned out already.)

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Re: Welp, looking for a second pistol.

Post by Hebs » 17 Mar 2013, 06:42

Suuuuurvey says?

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Post by joe_r95 » 18 Mar 2013, 09:07

I'll throw my 2 cents in because your also a lefty. If I had to choose only 1 gun it would be a glock. The 34 is huge though, and it probably wouldnt be that one. Mine are gen 3 I put an extended mag release in them and actuate it with the third pad on my index finger. I also use my index finger(while its extended) on the slide release and give it a swift pop when I do mag changes rather then sling shotting, or reaching for it. The only reason is I run handgun courses and its the fastest way. You can toss an extended slide release on to help, but make sure it doesnt move it backwards. Mine usually just get a little tweak outwards. Its not needed, but it helps. If you dont like glocks go to a gun shop, find the caliber section your looking for, find the ones that fit your hand, and start manipulating the controls to see what works best for you. Then ask questions about reliability there and research it on the internet before you buy one. 90% of shooting well is knowing your weapon. So when you do buy one practice manipulating the controls, and drawing as much as possible for the first few weeks to build muscle memory. I'm not saying that to belittle you or your abilities in any way, but its especially important for left handed shooters manipulating right hand controls.

I've been a glock owner for about 15 years, currently own 3 all in .40, and have always been happy with their product.

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Re: Welp, looking for a second pistol.

Post by Drayco » 18 Mar 2013, 09:31

Nothing there that I was looking for, most of the showings were older firearms. Saw some neat stuff (Like a Japanese camera used for targeting practice.) but nothing I was really looking for. (Picked up some accessories, so it wasn't a wasted trip.)

Went to a somewhat close but decently stocked gun store. NO 9mm handguns, but they had the .45 variants of the ones I'm eyeing. (Most of them, anyway.) Leaning more towards the Glock 34 as the rep said they're also ported. (Might also have to double as a CCW, once I can get rid of these horse thighs or get some looser pants... FSN just does not fit in there.)

Also looked at some H&K pistols, and I swear these guys took notes from Nerf as they have some VERY nice grips. Contoured and with ridges between the fingers. (Nerf actually did have some very good handles on their toys. Hell, some of the new ones still do. It's a little bit harder for gun makers to do the same as the handle also holds the mag though.)

Will have to compare the FNs to the Glock 34 and see which one I like handling more, but I don't know who would order a piece just to see how it feels.

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Post by blueorison » 18 Mar 2013, 09:59

Blue's #1 while in Gun store not run by intelligent human beings: try to limit/avoid talking to anyone working there, as there is a high risk that they do not know what they are talking about and spread lies and misinformation, commonly. This isn't hateful, it is in my experience; factual. Whether they do it on purpose or not, I cannot speak to that.

The G34 is NOT ported. The slide has a lightening cut to match the specs of the cycling and spring return closer to that of the other 9mm models. In other words, it's so that the slide will cycle more effectively with ammunition that isn't spec'd for the oversprung-for-US factory plinking/target ammunition factory setup.

The new HKs aren't the size of double decker buses, anymore. I like the P30/30L, HK45. They are very fun to shoot, with the standard good HK triggers that are smooth and light. They are still $1000 for not much of a reason, than a claim.

Go call your friends and ask to try their 34s and FNS's. The FNS is more of an all-around-use gun vs the 34, which has a much longer slide and oblong shape and can lead to a more difficult draw from IWB, depending on the holster location. The 34 is slightly slimmer in feel when carrying vs the FNS. It is also less blocky (the irony) and is more contoured than the FNS, slightly. I would not carry the 34; if you want a Glock 9mm to carry, try the smaller versions that do not have the lightening cut. The lightening cut may allow debris and objects to enter the slide and cause jamming, when carrying.

The Gen 3 vs Gen 4 34s are different in feel.

I hope that helps :thumb:
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Re: Welp, looking for a second pistol.

Post by Rapier1772 » 18 Mar 2013, 11:51

Doesn't glock designate their ported guns with a 'C' - as in G34C?
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Notice the slots in the barrel.
Regular G34 - not barrel slots.
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Re: Welp, looking for a second pistol.

Post by joe_r95 » 18 Mar 2013, 13:00

Yep C is the designation for ported. Poor choice for home defense. You get a bright flash out of the top of the gun in the dark. Its pretty blinding depending on the ammo. Also the cut in the slide allows dirt/debris to fall right in. If your wanting a full size 9mm check out the glock 17. Its a hair shorter without cuts in the slide. If your going to carry it try out a glock 19. Theres bound to be a place that rents them somewhere close.

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Post by blueorison » 18 Mar 2013, 18:44

I have never heard of a G34C.

Pretty sure it doesn't exist, from factory.
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Re: Welp, looking for a second pistol.

Post by joe_r95 » 18 Mar 2013, 20:31

blueorison wrote:I have never heard of a G34C.

Pretty sure it doesn't exist, from factory.
I'm pretty sure they were around at one point in time. Holster companies list them. I've personally shot a g35c on multiple occasions. Looks like the pic rap posted

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Post by blueorison » 18 Mar 2013, 21:48

joe_r95 wrote:
blueorison wrote:I have never heard of a G34C.

Pretty sure it doesn't exist, from factory.
I'm pretty sure they were around at one point in time. Holster companies list them. I've personally shot a g35c on multiple occasions. Looks like the pic rap posted
No kidding.... that's somethin I didn't know.

Well.. if they sell them, then let me know. Till then, I still think they aren't selling the ported model.
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Re: Welp, looking for a second pistol.

Post by panzermk2 » 18 Mar 2013, 22:14

blueorison wrote:
joe_r95 wrote:
blueorison wrote:I have never heard of a G34C.

Pretty sure it doesn't exist, from factory.
I'm pretty sure they were around at one point in time. Holster companies list them. I've personally shot a g35c on multiple occasions. Looks like the pic rap posted
No kidding.... that's somethin I didn't know.

Well.. if they sell them, then let me know. Till then, I still think they aren't selling the ported model.
They have on the past and a ported G20 was the only time I was ever really tempted to buy a block.
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Post by Drayco » 23 Mar 2013, 13:09

Well, went shopping today and settled on an FNS-9. I liked the feel of it and the trigger pull was pretty smooth, smoother than the FSN. (And short, too.) Feels about as heavy as the FSN, even though it's smaller, but I can live with that.

Probably would've gone with a Glock, but at THREE different stores, Glock has been on severe back-order. (We have a Gun World Gander Mtn. an hour or so away, and even their selection was highly limited.) So, if anybody's thinking about getting a Glock, better snap one up soon, or be prepared to wait for quite a while. Plus, I think people are really starting to get panicked about the new/potential gun control laws, making the problem worse.

Probably could've gone with something cheaper than $700, but HK were more expensive and all three stores were drawing a decent crowd. (Might be a bad idea to go gun shopping on a weekend.) Also, one of the stores were only selling ammo with firearm purchases, and the rest had a purchase limit per customer.

I'd be paranoid that the gov. is keeping control of firearms by buying up all the ammo they can get their hands on, but that sounds WAY too smart for them.

Anyway, going to let this topic die as it's a moot point now and read through the posts in the FN Handguns section on the FNS-9 before I start asking a parade of questions.

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Post by panzermk2 » 24 Mar 2013, 08:40

PIc or it didn't happen.......... :ponder: ............just sayin........................ :p
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Re: Welp, looking for a second pistol.

Post by Drayco » 25 Mar 2013, 18:51

panzermk2 wrote:PIc or it didn't happen.......... :ponder: ............just sayin........................ :p
About what, specifically? For the Glocks, it's just what I was told by Gun World and two smaller, local-only stores. (As Blue has said, it might be bad info, but the fact that three different places had the same story is rather unusual.)
As for the ammo, even Gander Mtn. hasn't really been able to keep up with demand and their ammo shelves are a lot more bare than they were a few months ago. In fact, my parents have been showing up at out local Gander Mtn.'s doors on Friday to be some of the first people in line to pick up ammo as it comes in. (And the ones camping out before they open usually get as much as they can.)

I don't know if this is national, or just a problem in Ohio.

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Re: Welp, looking for a second pistol.

Post by blueorison » 25 Mar 2013, 19:29

Glock is currently over 1 mil backordered.

They ARE filling orders, as we speak.

The info is from a source within Glock.

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Re: Welp, looking for a second pistol.

Post by darklcdfeller » 04 Apr 2013, 18:31

I just recently bought a FSN. I carry a fns40 all day everyday when Im not in ACU's. I love the FNS40, the only downside is finding a holster for it. I had one custom made by my local gun shop for $75 but the FNS40 out shot my glocks and my xdm40. Picked it up for 550 out the door. Very Happy with both my FNH pistols. Just my $.02

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Re: Welp, looking for a second pistol.

Post by Cwc » 04 Apr 2013, 22:01

I like the FNS 40 and 9mm. Shoot well and fit a medium sized hand. Comfortable to shoot.

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