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9MM Guns

Post by 57js » 02 Sep 2011, 08:31

I am looking into cheaper semis to shoot at the range other than my FsN (already have .22LR revolvers). I am thinking 9mm though I am open to .40S&W depending on the price of the ammunition. As much as I would like to get a 10mm or a .45, that ammo is probably going to be too expensive. I was considering the Beretta PX4, but several people have steered me away from it. I am considering the FN FNX-9, IMI Baby Eagle II, and SIG P226 though I think the SIG is going to stretch my budget. I know Blue will refer me to CZ so I should also look into it.

Just interested in everyone's thoughts on which would be a good range gun. I carry the FsN, and don't plan to carry this new gun.

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Re: 9MM Guns

Post by RC57 » 02 Sep 2011, 10:16

I really like my FNX-9. It's rather nice for a $500 pistol. Ammo price isn't too bad either. Also, it's extremely easy to transition between it and my FNX-40, FNP-45, and FNP 45 Tactical. It definitely has a different feel and layout than my FsN though, so muscle memory doesn't really work between the FNX-9 and FsN.

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Re: 9MM Guns

Post by panzermk2 » 02 Sep 2011, 10:45

Sig Pro or CZ.
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Post by 57js » 02 Sep 2011, 13:28

panzermk2 wrote:Sig Pro or CZ.
Is there a specific CZ model recommended? Will also look into the Sig Pro, thanks.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 02 Sep 2011, 15:08

Sig 228 will last through thousands of rounds. I own one that I am selling on the forum.

Sig Pro is cheaper and nice too.

I don't own any CZs so I can't help you. I don't love them like blue or panzer, but I will admit the ones I have shot are great shooters, and really don't have any weaknesses.
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Re: 9MM Guns

Post by f3rr37 » 02 Sep 2011, 16:53

I just picked up a CZ-75B earlier this week. I put 100 rounds through it last night and love it.

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Post by panzermk2 » 02 Sep 2011, 19:26

57js wrote:
panzermk2 wrote:Sig Pro or CZ.
Is there a specific CZ model recommended? Will also look into the Sig Pro, thanks.

CZ-75B

CZ-40B


And for something small the RAMI.
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Post by blueorison » 02 Sep 2011, 20:04

Listen closely, sir.

Hear the whisper in your ear...

C...Z...SP...01...

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Or CZ 75B. It cost less, and I prefer used guns. If you do, too, you can get one at sub $300.
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Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 03 Sep 2011, 07:29

Just what I would do.

$450 for a Glock 23, shoots .40 SW till the cows come home. Even if its just a range toy its still a Glock, dependable enough for any defensive situation if thats all you had. Drop in a Wolf aftermarket barrel and you can reliably shoot 9mm out of the same gun, switching back and forth to whatever caliber suits your fancy. Dozens of aftermarket parts available, and cheap too, including the ulta-hi-cap magazines, threaded barrels for suppressors, night/tritium sight optionss, and lights/lasers made specifically for the Glock.

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Post by 57js » 03 Sep 2011, 11:50

blueorison wrote:Listen closely, sir.

Hear the whisper in your ear...

C...Z...SP...01...

:)

Or CZ 75B. It cost less, and I prefer used guns. If you do, too, you can get one at sub $300.
Who would have thought that you would have recommended a CZ? :laugh:

I prefer used revolvers, but I am a little more concerned as to used semis. I guess it is because there is more than can go wrong with a semi if it isn't well cared for by the previous owner.

I will look into the SP01 and 75B in addition to the models that Jay recommended. I understand that the steel Baby Eagle II from IMI (the model I am looking at) is similar to the CZ (probably 75B, but don't know for sure). Is that true, and if so, what are the main differences?

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Post by 57js » 03 Sep 2011, 11:54

I went to the local gun store today to pick up some supplies, and tried out the FNX-9 as well as the PX4 Compact. I have eliminated those two models from consideration so I am now down to several of the CZ models that Blue and Jay recommended in addition to the IMI Baby Eagle II and the SIG SP2022 (which I am assuming is the Sig Pro that Jay recommended). Looks like I have more models to look at today than yesterday. Guess that shows that I shouldn't ask you guys for advice! :)

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Post by 57js » 03 Sep 2011, 11:57

SeaHawkDriver-B wrote:Just what I would do.

$450 for a Glock 23, shoots .40 SW till the cows come home. Even if its just a range toy its still a Glock, dependable enough for any defensive situation if thats all you had. Drop in a Wolf aftermarket barrel and you can reliably shoot 9mm out of the same gun, switching back and forth to whatever caliber suits your fancy. Dozens of aftermarket parts available, and cheap too, including the ulta-hi-cap magazines, threaded barrels for suppressors, night/tritium sight optionss, and lights/lasers made specifically for the Glock.
I have heard good things about Glocks for several people, but for some reason I don't like them. Can't really put my finger on why, but I don't want to own one. I shot a compact .40S&W model, and it was fine though I don't see myself buying one.

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Post by blueorison » 03 Sep 2011, 12:07

Nothing will beat a CZ at the same pricepoint.

Nothing.

Don't buy the IMI, it's a copy. Get the CZ. FYI CZ triggers are a bit gritty from factory but smooth out insanely much after 300 rounds. Extremely smooth.

I'm working on a CZ from one of the shooters on my squad, actually. It's lying in pieces all over my table haha
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Post by 57js » 03 Sep 2011, 12:36

blueorison wrote:Nothing will beat a CZ at the same pricepoint.

Nothing.

Don't buy the IMI, it's a copy. Get the CZ. FYI CZ triggers are a bit gritty from factory but smooth out insanely much after 300 rounds. Extremely smooth.

I'm working on a CZ from one of the shooters on my squad, actually. It's lying in pieces all over my table haha
I have noticed several SP01 models. The regular one, tactical, and the phantom. I am thinking that the SP01 is probably a little too much, but I will look at the 75B.

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Post by 57js » 03 Sep 2011, 12:47

blueorison wrote:Nothing will beat a CZ at the same pricepoint.

Nothing.

Don't buy the IMI, it's a copy. Get the CZ. FYI CZ triggers are a bit gritty from factory but smooth out insanely much after 300 rounds. Extremely smooth.

I'm working on a CZ from one of the shooters on my squad, actually. It's lying in pieces all over my table haha
Just noticed that the SP-01 Phantom is close in price to the CZ75B though the Phantom model is polymer. How does the Phantom model compare with the regular steel SP-01? The steel version is about $80 more.

I heard good thing about IMI which is a reason why I am considering it (plus it is about $50 cheaper than the CZ).

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Post by blueorison » 03 Sep 2011, 13:27

Get the steel version. If you like polymer guns (I like them the same as steel, doesn't matter to me) then you could get the Phantom. I would recommend the steel version for you, however.

The Phantom fits really nicely in your hand, also, and is lighter. I would pay the difference and go for steel for a range gun.
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Post by 57js » 03 Sep 2011, 16:26

blueorison wrote:Get the steel version. If you like polymer guns (I like them the same as steel, doesn't matter to me) then you could get the Phantom. I would recommend the steel version for you, however.

The Phantom fits really nicely in your hand, also, and is lighter. I would pay the difference and go for steel for a range gun.
Steel one might be over my limit, and it doesn't appear to be in stock anywhere I usually go to. What are the differences between the 75B and the SP01?

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Re: 9MM Guns

Post by 57js » 03 Sep 2011, 17:19

blueorison wrote:Get the steel version. If you like polymer guns (I like them the same as steel, doesn't matter to me) then you could get the Phantom. I would recommend the steel version for you, however.

The Phantom fits really nicely in your hand, also, and is lighter. I would pay the difference and go for steel for a range gun.
I can't find any of the CZ's for a reasonable price in stock at my usual places, but they all have the IMI steel version. Is the CZ that much better where I should wait for it to come in or is the IMI version very similar? I don't mind waiting a bit (Nevada'a NICS CCW exemption is in flux right now), but don't want to wait four or five months.

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Re: 9MM Guns

Post by Oldbindlestiff » 03 Sep 2011, 17:31

I find this sort of embarassing considering that I cut my eye teeth shooting High Standard .22's and Colt 1911's. While I still own both brands (retired after years of Bullseye competition), my carry pistol is a Glock 17 (9mm) or 30 (.45ACP). Drop in a Ghost Rocket trigger and you will have a pistol that is so reliable that it is quite boring. The CZ's are quite acceptable; just not my favorite.

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Post by blueorison » 03 Sep 2011, 20:58

57js wrote:
blueorison wrote:Get the steel version. If you like polymer guns (I like them the same as steel, doesn't matter to me) then you could get the Phantom. I would recommend the steel version for you, however.

The Phantom fits really nicely in your hand, also, and is lighter. I would pay the difference and go for steel for a range gun.
I can't find any of the CZ's for a reasonable price in stock at my usual places, but they all have the IMI steel version. Is the CZ that much better where I should wait for it to come in or is the IMI version very similar? I don't mind waiting a bit (Nevada'a NICS CCW exemption is in flux right now), but don't want to wait four or five months.

Thanks.
Buy it online. The member on my team who bought the Pre-B got his for $280 off Wideners. Buds would be a good place, as is gunbroker.

There is no big difference between the SP01 and 75B as far as being a range gun. They are both good.
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