FNP-45 Tactical gets a new Gemtech Blackside 45!

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FNP-45 Tactical gets a new Gemtech Blackside 45!

Post by jgreenberg01 » 18 Jan 2011, 12:58

I wasn't sure if this should go in the FN Handgun or the NFA forum, but figured that I would share either way (mods, feel free to move as appropriate). Just got my tax stamp back - the form 4 was sent to the ATF on 11-16-10, approved 12-30-10 and received back at my dealer on 1-13-11... a total of 59 days. Not bad from what I have heard.

I am going to do a video review in a day or so for NFA noobs (a group that includes me) and I will post it here if anyone is interested in seeing/hearing it. In the mean time, here are some baby pics:

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And if this next pic looks familiar it's because I tried to copy the theme from one taken by PearlMonte. Try being the operative word because I don't have his equipment, patience (or talent), but I did think it was a very cool idea.

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The coloring is CeraKote, not DuraKote and, no, the color didn't match the slide or the frame :wall: . They offered to redo it for free, but a second coat would require that the serial number be laser etched, so I'm going to live with it for now. The poor lighting makes it look more off than it really is though.

BTW, those rounds are EA's .45acp +p+ ammo...
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Post by MrSlippyFist » 18 Jan 2011, 13:02

How about a very small amount of tape covering the serial which is removed afterwords, and you still get your coat redone for free.

Looks freaking awesome, BTW.
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Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 18 Jan 2011, 15:06

Its like all of the FDE FN guns, the'yre all tripple-tone. Have you seen a SCAR lately? Nothing on the gun matches any other part, same for the FNP-45, I honestly dont think they intended to make a two-tone pistol in FDE.

Very nice suppressor though, i got one just like it in black.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 18 Jan 2011, 16:52

SeaHawkDriver-B wrote:Its like all of the FDE FN guns, the'yre all tripple-tone. Have you seen a SCAR lately? Nothing on the gun matches any other part, same for the FNP-45, I honestly dont think they intended to make a two-tone pistol in FDE.

Very nice suppressor though, i got one just like it in black.
The gunsmith explained that FN chose to use an FDE that is different than any milspec color. He said that he has this problem when trying to color match pretty much any FN weapon.

Anyway, gonna shoot it tomorrow and I'm guessing that the targets won't care too much what color the can is!
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Post by flyingirish04 » 19 Jan 2011, 12:23

Yeah, FN should have to call theirs FDG, for Field Dark Gold. Still looks very cool though.
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Post by lazi » 19 Jan 2011, 17:46

very nice setup! can't wait to see the vids.

color looks fine but I'd probably take the free paint. tape would probaby work for the sn. i bet a snake skin print would really look nice on that surpressor as well. I can dream...

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 22 Jan 2011, 19:18

And here is the video review I did. As I said, it's really for NFA noobs, there might even be some useful info for people looking to start this crazy & expensive addiction. The shooting starts at around 6:07 in the video if you don't want to hear me babbling about the suppressor's specs, how long the ATF took to approve, etc. and there are a couple of more shooting clips a little later.

Again mods, if this belongs in the NFA forum, feel free to move it...

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Post by romer522 » 22 Jan 2011, 23:26

How much crap does it spit back into your face? IE could you shoot it without eye protection if you needed to? Curious as the only reason I don't keep my FsN+Gemtech on my nightstand is because I'd only get a couple rounds off before I had gunk in my eyes.

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Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 23 Jan 2011, 00:55

I don't keep the 'can' on when its on the bedside table. But if I did, I'd just shoot it dry, still plenty of noise suppression vice wet, and no gunk.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 23 Jan 2011, 05:46

romer522 wrote:How much crap does it spit back into your face? IE could you shoot it without eye protection if you needed to? Curious as the only reason I don't keep my FsN+Gemtech on my nightstand is because I'd only get a couple rounds off before I had gunk in my eyes.
The grease that came packed in the can spewed out a huge smoke screen and burnt goo that went everywhere, it even coated the RMR sight window. Wire pulling gel not so much. The gun was dirty, I mean DIRTY after a couple of hundred rounds with more than half of that fired wet. The gel didn't get everywhere like the grease did though. So in a pinch (and let's face it, a SD situation is a pinch) I would not worry about gel getting in my face...
SeaHawkDriver-B wrote:I don't keep the 'can' on when its on the bedside table. But if I did, I'd just shoot it dry, still plenty of noise suppression vice wet, and no gunk.
I do keep the can on at night because, well, if I have to put several large holes in a BG, I want to do the right thing and protect his hearing. I'm just thoughtful like that. I keep it dry though because wire pulling gel doesn't stay wet forever, it dries up. And while grease remains wet, it makes way too much mess when fired. As Seahawk said, it's pretty darn close to hearing safe dry anyway.
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Post by flyingirish04 » 23 Jan 2011, 08:16

I have to say that dry, the gemtech's aren't great, but effective. You still need hearing protection though. But if you are keeping it on the whole time, I would keep it greased if you care about saving your ears, but you will get greased when you shoot for sure. The gel is not good unless you want to clean and reapply a bunch.
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FNP-45 Tactical, Gemtech Blackside 45 and NEW HOLSTER TOO!

Post by jgreenberg01 » 31 Jan 2011, 15:12

Ok, this is NOT a Raven Concealment holster.

I had ordered one on 11-8-10 and at the time they quoted a 12-13 week backlog. I contacted them around 1-15-11 because my order's status had not changed in their system and was told that oops, it's now a 16-18 week backlog. I got tired of waiting and that same week I was coincidentally put in touch with a custom kydex holster maker who was able to make a Raven Concealment knockoff for SUBSTANTIALLY less money, included 2 mag pouches & a pouch for my Gemtech Blackside suppressor and he could get it to me in only 4 days!!! Did I mention that it was WAY less than what Raven Concealment was charging?

I canceled my RC order.

Check out the video - you can see it IWB, OWB and IWB tucked. My initial impression is that while the holster is great, this gun is so heavy (w/optic, tac light & 16 rounds) and thick to the point that it is difficult to CCW. I'll update this after carrying it for a while.

If anyone is interested in having one made for their FNP-45 Tactical, let me know and I will get you in touch with the maker of these holsters...

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Post by panzermk2 » 31 Jan 2011, 16:00

jgreenberg01 wrote:Ok, this is NOT a Raven Concealment holster.

I had ordered one on 11-8-10 and at the time they quoted a 12-13 week backlog. I contacted them around 1-15-11 because my order's status had not changed in their system and was told that oops, it's now a 16-18 week backlog. I got tired of waiting and that same week I was coincidentally put in touch with a custom kydex holster maker who was able to make a Raven Concealment knockoff for SUBSTANTIALLY less money, included 2 mag pouches & a pouch for my Gemtech Blackside suppressor and he could get it to me in only 4 days!!! Did I mention that it was WAY less than what Raven Concealment was charging?

I canceled my RC order.

Check out the video - you can see it IWB, OWB and IWB tucked. My initial impression is that while the holster is great, this gun is so heavy (w/optic, tac light & 16 rounds) and thick to the point that it is difficult to CCW. I'll update this after carrying it for a while.

If anyone is interested in having one made for their FNP-45 Tactical, let me know and I will get you in touch with the maker of these holsters...

Can he make one of those holsters for the FsN with the insight M3 attached? IWB or heck even OWB?
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Post by jgreenberg01 » 31 Jan 2011, 17:49

panzermk2 wrote:Can he make one of those holsters for the FsN with the insight M3 attached? IWB or heck even OWB?
He has access to most guns, but the lights, not so much. I'll ask him if you want (or I can give you his info)...
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Post by panzermk2 » 31 Jan 2011, 23:09

either way.
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Post by onceA6shooter » 15 Feb 2011, 14:42

flyingirish04 wrote:I have to say that dry, the gemtech's aren't great, but effective. You still need hearing protection though. But if you are keeping it on the whole time, I would keep it greased if you care about saving your ears, but you will get greased when you shoot for sure. The gel is not good unless you want to clean and reapply a bunch.
Is this the same for all 45 suppressors where they do not quiet it down enough to shoot without hearing protection?

I know that a suppressed 9mm shooting standard ammo is noisy through a suppressor because of the sonic crack. I thought that most 45 ammo was already subsonic so that it would be ear safe with a suppressor. The older I get the more ringing I have in my ears even though I have tried to be carefull with hearing protection. I was hoping that a FNP 45 T would a great setup for older eyes with a red dot, and quiet with a suppressor without the need for hearing protection.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 15 Feb 2011, 15:09

I use my Gemtech dry for the most part. EVERY person at the range (they all come running to check out the "silencer") felt that no hearing protection was required. While I would call it (mostly) hearing safe - I would not want to spend the entire day shooting it with no hearing protection.

Shooting it wet is hearing safe, but it's messy and a pain in the butt!
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onceA6shooter wrote:
flyingirish04 wrote:I have to say that dry, the gemtech's aren't great, but effective. You still need hearing protection though. But if you are keeping it on the whole time, I would keep it greased if you care about saving your ears, but you will get greased when you shoot for sure. The gel is not good unless you want to clean and reapply a bunch.
Is this the same for all 45 suppressors where they do not quiet it down enough to shoot without hearing protection?

I know that a suppressed 9mm shooting standard ammo is noisy through a suppressor because of the sonic crack. I thought that most 45 ammo was already subsonic so that it would be ear safe with a suppressor. The older I get the more ringing I have in my ears even though I have tried to be carefull with hearing protection. I was hoping that a FNP 45 T would a great setup for older eyes with a red dot, and quiet with a suppressor without the need for hearing protection.
Shoot heavy, subsonics. :)

9mm 147's should be fine.
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Post by onceA6shooter » 24 Feb 2011, 17:23

blueorison wrote:
onceA6shooter wrote:
flyingirish04 wrote:I have to say that dry, the gemtech's aren't great, but effective. You still need hearing protection though. But if you are keeping it on the whole time, I would keep it greased if you care about saving your ears, but you will get greased when you shoot for sure. The gel is not good unless you want to clean and reapply a bunch.
Is this the same for all 45 suppressors where they do not quiet it down enough to shoot without hearing protection?

I know that a suppressed 9mm shooting standard ammo is noisy through a suppressor because of the sonic crack. I thought that most 45 ammo was already subsonic so that it would be ear safe with a suppressor. The older I get the more ringing I have in my ears even though I have tried to be carefull with hearing protection. I was hoping that a FNP 45 T would a great setup for older eyes with a red dot, and quiet with a suppressor without the need for hearing protection.
Shoot heavy, subsonics. :)

9mm 147's should be fine.
Does that mean a they make a 9mm suppressor that is safe to shoot without hearing protection?

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Post by srt-4_jon » 24 Feb 2011, 17:55

most good 9mm suppressors are hearing safe. For the 45, the Osprey and Tirant are both hearing safe when dry

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