Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by Ariac » 10 Sep 2010, 23:07

Wow didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. Just trying to clarify. I have a couple pistols with tritium sights myself (p226 hsp, and CZ sp-01), and have delt with half life first hand in physics. The wiki was for the benifit of others. I am inclined to believe the first hand experience on the sight. Just wanted to know what kind of failure took place i.e. tube fell out, broke ect since the tritium didn't just cease to be radioactive. I have been thinking about buying one of the tritium powered RMRs lately.

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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by User42 » 10 Sep 2010, 23:59

Yea I don't think anyone was trying to compare the FSN to the FNP, I only mentioned it because that happens to be all the experience I have with mounting an optic on a pistol. I was mostly replying to Big Hat about having to re zero most battery powered optics.

To sum up my thoughts, I think there is obviously nothing better for pistol sights than having tritium dots installed, but in an optic I would rather have battery power over tritium. Batteries die, and have a shelf life even if completely unused, but considering the options I would rather have a bright optic by spending a few bucks changing the battery every few years than to have to spend a few hundred sending the optic back to the company every decade or so. It sucks that the FF2 has to be removed to change the battery, but the cash saved would more than pay for the ammo required to re sight it in. That and if Burris happens to goes out of business in 5 years, I will still be able to change that battery. Could we say the same for Trijicon? Who knows.

So uhh, what sucked about the Burris? Would it not keep its zero on the FNP? If you prefer the Trijicon, then by all means go for it. Oh and if you do, definitely get us some pics once you get it mounted :)


Ohhh I think I see what you are saying about having to take it on and off. I have EA's rail mount, so I have the rail mounted FF2, which is easy to pop on and off. Hell, if it ever breaks or dies on me, all I need is a screwdriver or a key or something, and I can use the sights built into the mount. Yea if you had the mount specific for the pistol, I could see how that would be a pain in the ass.
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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by BigHat » 15 Sep 2010, 12:23

The reviews of the RMR (FO/Tritium version) in the pistol application seem to be pretty good. Couple of folks using them on ARs seem to worry about the "dot" washing out against a white wall illuminated with a bright flashlight, but other than that it seems to be a good fit on a pistol. The unavoidable co-witness aspect of the large tritium sights on the pistol itself seem to offer a good back-up in a the worst case lighting scenario.

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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by BigHat » 17 Oct 2010, 10:41

Quick update. Pistol and optic on the way. Opted for the FO/Tritium RMR with a 9 MOA dot.

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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by MadDogDan » 28 Oct 2010, 14:13

I have had the Trijicon Dual Illuminated RMR on my FN45-Tac for 6 or 8 months and it is one of the best set-ups I have tried so far. I have MRD's on other auto loaders and the FN system out performs all others that I have. I went with the 7moa dot as I like to keep them around 8moa on pistols if possible. I use mine mainly for 3-gun and home protection but do sometines CCW it in a Blade-Tech IWB holster.

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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by BigHat » 28 Oct 2010, 14:30

Hey Mad Dog. Congrats and thanks for the pics!!! :clap:

I put my rig together tomorrow. I went with the 9 MOA model. Had thought 9 and 13 MOA were they only two options with the FO/Tritium model. Can't wait to pump rounds through it.

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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by jgreenberg01 » 29 Oct 2010, 07:50

MadDogDan wrote:I have had the Trijicon Dual Illuminated RMR on my FN45-Tac for 6 or 8 months and it is one of the best set-ups I have tried so far. I have MRD's on other auto loaders and the FN system out performs all others that I have. I went with the 7moa dot as I like to keep them around 8moa on pistols if possible. I use mine mainly for 3-gun and home protection but do sometines CCW it in a Blade-Tech IWB holster.
I set mine up with the 7moa RMR also... are you saying that you have a bladetech IWB that will hold an FNP 45 Tactical set up with an RMR???

If so - which one?
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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by BigHat » 29 Oct 2010, 17:11

Yea,
The missing link for this fine pistol. Personally, I want a leg mounted than fits the Tactical w/ an RMR mounted on it.

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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by MadDogDan » 29 Oct 2010, 18:59

Place your order over the phone with Blade-Tech. Tell them you want their IWB holster for the FNP45 Tactical. That way they make the holster a little longer to cover the extended barrel. Also make sure you ask for a "speed cut". They will cut the front of the holster low enough to accomodate the RMR.

That is what I did,
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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by jgreenberg01 » 30 Oct 2010, 05:58

Thanks, I emailed them last night (because they were closed for the weekend already), Do you have any pics of the holster with/without the gun?

Also, how stable is it? My FsN sits comfortably in my Blade-Tech UCH (worn in the small of the back) and does not slide on the belt at all, but the FNP is substantially heavier...
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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by toyslr » 30 Oct 2010, 06:57

Think one things is missing in the FF to RMR comparison and thats cost. Burris FF II's run between 240-280 where RMR's (espicially the Dual) is going to run north of 500. For the money I've mounted 2 or 3 FF's and had NO issues but choose to run an RMR for the fact that no battery is needed

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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by BigHat » 30 Oct 2010, 07:45

toyslr wrote:Think one things is missing in the FF to RMR comparison and thats cost. Burris FF II's run between 240-280 where RMR's (espicially the Dual) is going to run north of 500. For the money I've mounted 2 or 3 FF's and had NO issues but choose to run an RMR for the fact that no battery is needed

Price and battery are actually minor considerations between these two optics.

Let's use the facts. A Burris FFII goes for $199. I just paid $419 for the Dual RMR. (see Optics Planet) So double, but not even remotely close to three FFs in price.
More importantly, the FF is a 4 MOA dot which is harder to find in the sight quickly. I know as I use one on a FiveseveN. The RMR options of 9 and 13 MOA (currently from the Trijicon site) are more suited to a pistol application.

Personally, I don't even know why the FF even comes up as an option for this pistol. It has locking screws for the windage and elevation adjustments that are impossible to get at as the rear sight blocks access to them. In other words, you can't adjust the sight, or lock down your zero without removing it from the pistol. To me that's a showstopper. The small dot and battery though are two more reasons I don't favor it on this pistol.

I own and use two FFIIs by the way.

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Re: Optics on the FNP 45 Tactical

Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 30 Oct 2010, 10:41

MadDogDan wrote:I have had the Trijicon Dual Illuminated RMR on my FN45-Tac for 6 or 8 months and it is one of the best set-ups I have tried so far. I have MRD's on other auto loaders and the FN system out performs all others that I have. I went with the 7moa dot as I like to keep them around 8moa on pistols if possible. I use mine mainly for 3-gun and home protection but do sometines CCW it in a Blade-Tech IWB holster.

MadDog :thumb:
Nice setup... except for the fact my FNP has a a Gemtech can hanging off the front end, its identical to yours. Makes for one HELL of a .45 Auto setup. I'm so used-to shooting with an RMR or the Fastfire on the FiveseveN that iron sights feel cumbersome to me now.

I opted to trade in my MSAR for the new AUG-A3; IMHO Steyr has brought the A3 above and beyond the new MSAR designs in terms of the quirks that made the original MSAR's more appealing. Plus my A3 came in the box with both Steyr lowers for properitary AUG mags and AR mags... I keep the AR mag lower on there for home defense such that I can use the same mags for my traditional Bushmaster AR, my AUG A3, and my Sig 552, all three different 556 carbines able to interchange mags is AWESOME!!!

As for shotguns, I'm straight up Benelli M3 and an M4.. .I coudlnt' decide which one was better so I bought both. :laugh: Although I'm considering a mossberg 590 pistol-grip for in-vehicle carry, and a Saiga 12 with 25rd drums for the occasional zombie attack.

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