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Discuss the FN lineup of tactical rifles; the FS2000, SCAR, and the venerable FAL.
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Post by ynoty3k » 29 Oct 2010, 13:09

so darn new the spec and features sections are empty on the site, but we do know it's in .308, and capable of sub MOA out to 1,000 yards and beyond!

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Post by f3rr37 » 29 Oct 2010, 13:17

:drool:

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Post by ynoty3k » 29 Oct 2010, 13:45

where'd that smiley come from? It sure is fitting.

I'm betting on a price near 4500. But sure would like one. Especially in .338L

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Post by romer522 » 29 Oct 2010, 14:51

I suspect FN is putting their accurate-chrome-lined barrel manufacturing skills to good use.

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Post by sabotteur » 29 Oct 2010, 15:10

Damn, another toy to add to the list.

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Post by Bones » 29 Oct 2010, 18:30

Very Sweet indeed but SUB MOA out to 1000 and beyond. No way!

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Post by SHEEPDOG » 29 Oct 2010, 20:18

I would have to call BS on that too. 338L but not 308. At 1000yrd + there are so many variables that I guess they can claim anything.

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Post by User42 » 29 Oct 2010, 22:31

Now that is a Scar I would want to buy. If it's .308, I may forgo waiting on the RFB.
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Post by romer522 » 29 Oct 2010, 22:36

swe123 wrote:I would have to call BS on that too. 338L but not 308. At 1000yrd + there are so many variables that I guess they can claim anything.
Sub MOA rifle/equipment and sub MOA shooting are two different things.

The barrel is 90% when it all breaks down, and considering they know how to make sub half minute chrome lined barrels already I don't think sub MOA out of a semi-auto is too big of a claim to be unrealistic.

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Post by fooschnickens » 30 Oct 2010, 08:41

Zang. My FNAR plans may have just been ousted...
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Post by ynoty3k » 30 Oct 2010, 08:43

haha FNAR? What's that ***** ****?

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Post by flyingirish04 » 30 Oct 2010, 12:56

Sub MOA is only part based on the firearm. Out at distance, load type and bullet BC takes over. 308 Win really tops out around 1200 yards. After that the bullet starts to fall out of the sky due to its lower powder charge combined with 30 caliber bullet. A 7mm Mag, 300 Win, and 338L has enough charge and BC on bullets to hold sub MOA groups past that range, the 338L reaching as far as any 50 BMG will.

Just to clear up some terminology being thrown out here, Sub MOA means less than 1" groups at 100 yards. That is all it means. Therefore, sub MOA would be a group less than 10" at 1000 yards. Any gun that is sub MOA will shoot that way to the operational effective range of the round, regardless of the rifle. A $600 Tikka T3 7mm Mag will shoot as tight as any Gucci brand 1 MOA gun that costs four times that.
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Post by SHEEPDOG » 30 Oct 2010, 16:40

flyingirish04 wrote:Sub MOA is only part based on the firearm. Out at distance, load type and bullet BC takes over. 308 Win really tops out around 1200 yards. After that the bullet starts to fall out of the sky due to its lower powder charge combined with 30 caliber bullet. A 7mm Mag, 300 Win, and 338L has enough charge and BC on bullets to hold sub MOA groups past that range, the 338L reaching as far as any 50 BMG will.

Just to clear up some terminology being thrown out here, Sub MOA means less than 1" groups at 100 yards. That is all it means. Therefore, sub MOA would be a group less than 10" at 1000 yards. Any gun that is sub MOA will shoot that way to the operational effective range of the round, regardless of the rifle. A $600 Tikka T3 7mm Mag will shoot as tight as any Gucci brand 1 MOA gun that costs four times that.
You are exactly right! Sorry if I was not clear. My point was that I dont think they can prove it in the real world. A 308 would not be my choice for a thousand yard head shot or paper plate. Most people have never shot five hundred yards. It's kind of a mute point.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 30 Oct 2010, 17:43

swe123 wrote:Most people have never shot five hundred yards. It's kind of a mute point.
Is the requirement just to have a bullet go that far or go that far with any intention of accuracy? :laugh:
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Post by flyingirish04 » 31 Oct 2010, 14:16

You mean moot point ;).
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