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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by Cyberfly » 01 Feb 2015, 20:02

Actually, flavored shine is easy to make. Just remember it's a 2:1 ratio. Two parts juice to 1 part shine. Add sugar to your taste (some like it sweeter to mask the bitterness of the shine) and jar it. The longer it sits, the smoother it gets.
If you want to make apple pie shine, take part of the apple juice, boil it with cinnamon sticks, a pinch of allspice, brown sugar and white sugar and a few tsp of vanilla. Let it cool, mix it back to your apple juice and then add your shine.
For the watermelon, you can buy watermelon juice at most grocery stores. Same with peach. Some folks will add flavored vodkas to increase both the artificial flavors and to add a little extra % to the alcohol, but I prefer to keep it just juices and alcohol. If you can't get moonshine, you can use 191 proof grain alcohol like Everclear or Crystal River.
I've heard people gripe, 'the proof is so low'...that's not the point. The point is, it's flavored and SMOOTH. If you make it sweet, let it mellow for a couple of months in a cool, dark place, you can't hardly taste the alcohol. You tend to drink too much in one sitting and IT WILL KNOCK YOUR D!CK IN THE DIRT.
I like to make apple pie, peach, watermelon, caramel apple (apple with caramel coffee syrup), cherry limeade and blackberry. Easily, the apple pie is the local favorite, but my personal fave is watermelon. The missus loves the peach. My neighbor is a fool for the caramel apple and my twin boys love the cherry limeade. Blackberry is something I rarely make because I tend to not let it sit long enough to mellow... :D
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by Oldbindlestiff » 02 Feb 2015, 06:33

Thanks, Fly! I can see that you are serious about 'shine. The only thing I make with Everclear is Limoncello, and it is cut with water.
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by Cyberfly » 02 Feb 2015, 16:01

Too many people come to me for their fix. There are a few people around here who sell liquid rust in a jar and call it apple pie shine.
Yes, mine is sweeter than most, but that's what people like. The fellas who aren't big on the sweet stuff say that it's better over ice, the ladies like it straight or even warmed like a toddy.
Either way, the sweeter you make it, the more it masks the alcohol taste and the easier it is to get smashed.
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by PainKillaX » 02 Feb 2015, 16:55

And I'm sure all the extra sugar doesn't help the hangover in the morning ;)

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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by blueorison » 03 Feb 2015, 10:04

Captan Harold D wrote:What's the best Tequila these days?
Oldbindlestiff wrote:Blue said about Scotch whisky: "...It's more for folk who want to sit and sip." Well, age and experience (floor-crawling, porcelaine convenience-hugging and nails driven into your forehead hangovers) will cure the taste for mixing liquors. Well, except for whisky and beer.

What tequila are you drinking, Blue?
Tequila is like Scotch in that the middle/bottom shelf ones are somewhat known to the public (ie the lower bottles of Patron). Although, scotch/Irish/Whiskey is less publicized, for some reason; probably the higher proof leading to a not-so-party/sipping atmosphere.

But once you get to the better bottles/really good bottles, it's a lot like BBQ here in Austin/Texas.

It isn't "which is the best"; it's "wow they are all so good, which one do I prefer?"

Gran Centenario and Don Julio 1942 are both touted bottles. I like neither of them; the fore because it is vegetal as ****; the latter because it is overpriced and not that great in character.

OBS; to answer your question; it depends. When I'm festive with friends, I tend to shoot blanco/repo and when I'm drinking alone (it's cold! so I do it somewhat often), I prefer anejo. All neat, just as I prefer my Scotch served.

Ok, now to more succinct and polar answers myself and others prefer;

Blanco
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1. A VERY good blanco is Fina Estampa. Runs 30-40$ per and is so darn good for a blanco, I won't hype it. It is peppery, slightly smokey, and goes GREAT with the ladies when you merge it with fresh watermelon slices or in a cocktail (add an orange twist/rind).

I don't like shooting this blanco because it is really good, but I have no issues doing so when with good friends.

2. A fun shooter that is actually really good in quality and character is Cavalino. The packaging is awful, but it's like the IOM. Looks stupid as ****, but shoots great. The Anejo from Cavalino is the biggest sleeper tequila to-date. It is very solid. But again, packaging looks dumb.

Repo
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1. Don Cosme - if you like smooth, but still that slight tequila oomph; this is a great bottle. The repo is slightly sweet, with vanilla and is NOT spice-y. Anise is fine, but most other spices belong in rum, not my freakin glass of tequila. I also do not like vegetal tequilas (Gran Centenario).

2. A fun repo/not really a repo comes in the form of Sotol. It's from a different plant. But it's fun. H5 Sotol.

Anejo

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1. If you like scotch, this is for you. Casa Noble single barrel Anejo. Or it might be extra anejo. I don't recall. Black, porcelain/ceramic bottle. It's like honey and very fragrant.

2. If you like a richer, bolder character, go with Extra Anejos.

3. Budget Anejos that are pretty good are Antigua, Milagro, Cavalino.

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I'm sad because it's kinda rum weather, now, but freakin Ron Zacapa is one of the few rums I like to sip but I don't want to pay $50 for it. Though, I would pay $50 for a good tequila.. I guess I'm partial to tequila, more than rum.
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by Oldbindlestiff » 03 Feb 2015, 11:17

Thanks, Blue! I am partial to the repo's but might spring for an anejo from your list if I can find it here in TN.
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by Captan Harold D » 03 Feb 2015, 12:48

Thanks for the info Blue;
Like OBS, If I can find any of those, I'll give em a try. Do you find those brands there in Austin. I have a brother living there and will sick him on it.

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Post by blueorison » 03 Feb 2015, 13:16

Oldbindlestiff wrote:Thanks, Blue! I am partial to the repo's but might spring for an anejo from your list if I can find it here in TN.
Definitely! I like repos, too. Blancos are usually shooters, unless it is Fina Estampa, then it's good for enjoying.

Both Cavalino and Don Cosme makes for a straightforward, enjoyable repo. I pulled my Don Cosme repo notes; posted, below.

Don cosme
Nose: Cool, floral. Like mountain water. Young pineapple, not roasted. 0 traces of vegetal, brine, or unwanted crap.
Tongue: Sweet on entry, vanilla and slight sandalwood. Very pleasant legs, actually has a nice thickness to it that adds value.
Character: Straightforward as a repo should be, with a very confidant body. No frills, while still maintaining a floral value. Very slight warmth.
Finish: Very slight nuttiness. Very, very slight. As in, if you had licked the shell of a cracked walnut. Buttery with a very very small hint of bitterness.

Overall: Straightforward, enjoyable, with no stupidity. Like an older woman (early 30s). Almost.

Captan Harold D wrote:Thanks for the info Blue;
Like OBS, If I can find any of those, I'll give em a try. Do you find those brands there in Austin. I have a brother living there and will sick him on it.
Yeap, Specs and Twin Liquors carries them. Specs has the best tequila selection I've seen in any store in any state I've visited.

If you like rum, etc. Go for a nice Anejo with Cavalino (again, don't let the stupid packaging fool you).

If you like something younger and lighter on its feet, go for the repo. Don Cosme is my current fave, with 4Copas on the list. El Milagro single barrel is also a good one to field, but expensive (IIRC, $60 and up).
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by panzermk2 » 03 Feb 2015, 13:56

I treat Tequila like C4.

Like C4's dirty little sister Semtex I prefer Mezcal.

Mezcal is the dirty little sister of Tequila I prefer to party with.
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by Hobknob » 04 Feb 2015, 15:53

panzermk2 wrote:I treat Tequila like C4.

Like C4's dirty little sister Semtex I prefer Mezcal.

Mezcal is the dirty little sister of Tequila I prefer to party with.
you just wanted an excuse to say "dirty", "sister", "tequila" , C4 and "Semtex" in the same breath didn't you?
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by panzermk2 » 04 Feb 2015, 21:38

Hobknob wrote:
panzermk2 wrote:I treat Tequila like C4.

Like C4's dirty little sister Semtex I prefer Mezcal.

Mezcal is the dirty little sister of Tequila I prefer to party with.
you just wanted an excuse to say "dirty", "sister", "tequila" , C4 and "Semtex" in the same breath didn't you?

Yep. :thumb:
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by blueorison » 05 Feb 2015, 01:19

Mezcal is sooo expensive. There are some $40 bottles, but mostly $80-100 a bottle.

I've always wanted to try it, but forgot. I'll give it a whirl.
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Post by blueorison » 14 Feb 2015, 22:05

I bought a $40 bottle of Mezcal.

It's really good, but doesn't have the body of a good tequila.

It's like the red-headed stepchild of Tequila.

No one really knows about it, it's sultry and sweet, and doesn't smack you.

Ok, it's like the blonde-headed stepchild of Tequila.

I think at the price-point, I prefer Tequila for the stronger body. Mezcal is nice, however; I like it.
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by panzermk2 » 14 Feb 2015, 23:46

blueorison wrote:I bought a $40 bottle of Mezcal.

It's really good, but doesn't have the body of a good tequila.

It's like the red-headed stepchild of Tequila.

No one really knows about it, it's sultry and sweet, and doesn't smack you.

Ok, it's like the blonde-headed stepchild of Tequila.

I think at the price-point, I prefer Tequila for the stronger body. Mezcal is nice, however; I like it.

It's the dirty little sister like I said.
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by Oldbindlestiff » 15 Feb 2015, 08:19

Well, my last experience with mezcal was memorable but best forgotten. Can't find any anejo tequila, except Don Julio, anywhere within fifty miles or so. At $48 a pint, I am a bit reticent to try it.
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Post by blueorison » 16 Feb 2015, 17:17

Oldbindlestiff wrote:Well, my last experience with mezcal was memorable but best forgotten. Can't find any anejo tequila, except Don Julio, anywhere within fifty miles or so. At $48 a pint, I am a bit reticent to try it.
I didn't know it was that bad, in other states.
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by Oldbindlestiff » 17 Feb 2015, 09:18

Lots of tequila, blanco and some reposados. In eastern TN, people drink to sink. Oh, wait, those are Floridians.
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Post by blueorison » 17 Feb 2015, 10:47

Repos, in many cases, are more preferred than Anejos, which might be too woody.

A very good repo is Corzo. It's soft, creamy, with orange and cake notes. It is expensive.
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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by Rapier1772 » 21 Feb 2015, 22:05

Idaho has started getting stuff like the flavored moonshine y'all keep talking about & even everclear in the liquor stores.
Strange thing though, they haven't changed the laws about what can be sold here, still a limit of 151 Proof.
Checked the labels, everclear is 151 proof & the moonshine is only 100 proof.

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Re: Rye Whisky

Post by Oldbindlestiff » 22 Feb 2015, 12:00

Most of the flavored white whiskeys sold here are 80 proof. Homemade 'shine can vary depending on the artisan who crafted it. Once found, patronize the maker!
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