iFire's PS90 Load Data

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iFire's PS90 Load Data

Post by iFire » 05 Dec 2010, 17:02

Notes:

SS195 1x brass | CCI 400 SR Primers | CE Pro Chrony @ 10 feet |

OAL's:
| 27gr SS195 1.575" | 34gr Dogtown 1.500" | 35gr NTX 1.575" | 35gr NLFBT 1.575" |
| 40gr Vmax 1.575" | 45gr BBS 1.565" | 50gr CTBST 1.575" | 55gr FMJ 1.575"

Denotes a Preferred Load

This thread will contain loads that I have found to work well in my PS90 Carbine. Your gun may differ.


PS90

Use This Data At Your Own Risk



SS197 Factory Round

40 Gr Vmax
SS197
Factory Round

FPS - 2090


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 388

Notes: Standard Function

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SS195 Factory Round

27 Gr SS195
SS195
Factory Round

FPS - 2465


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 364

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Grain SS195 Pulled Bullet + True Blue

27 Gr SS195 Pull
True Blue
6.5 Grs

FPS - 2728


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 446

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Gr SS195 Pull
True Blue
6.6 Grs

FPS - 2764


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 458

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Gr SS195 Pull
True Blue
6.7 Grs

FPS - 2794


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 468

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Gr SS195 Pull
True Blue
6.8 Grs

FPS - 2844


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 485

Notes: Standard Function - End of my ladder - It may be possible to move higher

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27 Grain SS195 Pulled Bullet + AA#7 (Old Formula - OF)

27 Gr SS195 Pull
AA#7 (OF)
8.2 Grs

FPS - 2855


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 489

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Gr SS195 Pull
AA#7 (OF)
8.3 Grs

FPS - 2936


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 517

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Gr SS195 Pull
AA#7 (OF)
8.4 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2956


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 524

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Gr SS195 Pull
AA#7 (OF)
8.5 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2917


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 510

Notes: Necks getting shorter, velocity regression - velocity for this round was lower than the 8.4gr load - beyond max

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27 Grain SS195 Pulled Bullet + AutoComp

27 Gr SS195 Pull
AutoComp
5.9 Grs

FPS - 2720


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 444

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Gr SS195 Pull
AutoComp
6.0 Grs

FPS - 2762


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 457

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Gr SS195 Pull
AutoComp
6.1 Grs

FPS - 2777


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 462

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Gr SS195 Pull
AutoComp
6.2 Grs *Max?*

FPS - 2807


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 473

Notes: Primer starting to show leakage around edges - I stopped and shot the remaining rounds of my ladder through the pistol -

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27 Grain SS195 Pulled Bullet + LongShot

27 Gr SS195 Pull
LongShot
6.6 Grs

FPS - 2749


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 453

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Gr SS195 Pull
LongShot
6.7 Grs

FPS - 2729


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 447

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Gr SS195 Pull
LongShot
6.8 Grs

FPS - 2777


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 462

Notes: Standard Function

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27 Gr SS195 Pull
LongShot
6.9 Grs

FPS - 2743


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 451

Notes: I was having trouble building a consistent ladder with longshot - So I stopped my ladder here…

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34 Grain Varmint Nightmare Extreme + True Blue

34 Gr VNE
True Blue
6.2 Grs

FPS - 2440


Sample Size 7
Stand. Dev. 19
Ft Lbs Energy 450

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Grain Nosler Lead Free Ballistic Tip (NLFBT) + Winchester AutoComp

35 Gr NLFBT
AutoComp
5.5 Grs


FPS - 2344


Sample Size 5
Stand. Dev. 15
Ft Lbs Energy 427

Notes: Standard Function - Super smooth ejection - A really nice load

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35 Gr NLFBT
AutoComp
5.7 Grs

FPS - 2409


Sample Size 5
Stand. Dev. 19
Ft Lbs Energy 451

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NLFBT
AutoComp
5.8 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2415


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 453

Notes: Standard Function - I would call this the conservtive max load

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35 Gr NLFBT
AutoComp
5.9 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2455


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 469

Notes: Black ring around primer - probably just over max - functioned and ejected ok…

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35 Gr NLFBT
AutoComp
6.0 Grs *Danger*

FPS - 2487


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 481

Notes: Lost a primer - Over max

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35 Grain Nosler Lead Free Ballistic Tip (NLFBT) + AA#7 (Old Formula - OF)

35 Gr NLFBT
AA#7 (OF)
7.5 Grs *Too Weak*

FPS - 2492


Sample Size 5
Stand. Dev. 27
Ft Lbs Energy 483

Notes: Fail to Feed the following round on all shots… Too weak of a charge?… higher charges than this up to the max worked great.

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35 Gr NLFBT
AA#7 (OF)
7.6 Grs

FPS - 2537


Sample Size 5
Stand. Dev. 29
Ft Lbs Energy 500

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NLFBT
AA#7 (OF)
7.7 Grs

FPS - 2581


Sample Size 5
Stand. Dev. 19
Ft Lbs Energy 518

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NLFBT
AA#7 (OF)
7.8 Grs

FPS - 2576


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 28
Ft Lbs Energy 516

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NLFBT
AA#7 (OF)
7.9 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2616


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 24
Ft Lbs Energy 532

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NLFBT
AA#7 (OF)
8.0 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2609


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 18
Ft Lbs Energy 529

Notes: End of my ladder for this combo - Velocity Regression from 7.9 to 8.0 - probably over max? - necks getting real short

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35 Grain Nosler Lead Free Ballistic Tip (NLFBT) + Longshot

35 Gr NLFBT
Longshot
6.0 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2476


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 36
Ft Lbs Energy 476

Notes: Lost a primer - Over Max - so I would need to make a new ladder with a lower charges

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35 Grain Nosler Lead Free Ballistic Tip (NLFBT) + Blue Dot

35 Gr NLFBT
Blue Dot
6.6 Grs

FPS - 2530


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 29
Ft Lbs Energy 497

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NLFBT
Blue Dot
6.8 Grs

FPS - 2559


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 5
Ft Lbs Energy 509

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NLFBT
Blue Dot
7.0 Grs *Caution?*

FPS - 2569


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 513

Notes: Primer showed leakage on the edges - I only tested one shot. Caution.

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35 Grain Hornady NTX + Winchester AutoComp

35 Gr NTX
AutoComp
5.5 Grs


FPS - 2360


Sample Size 6
Stand. Dev. 16
Ft Lbs Energy 433

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NTX
AutoComp
5.6 Grs

FPS - 2398


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 447

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NTX
AutoComp
5.7 Grs

FPS - 2428


Sample Size 8
Stand. Dev. 7
Ft Lbs Energy 458

Notes: I did lose one primer - However It may have been due to a bad primer pocket…

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35 Gr NTX
AutoComp
5.8 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2473


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 475

Notes: I would call this the Max - primer is completely flat

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35 Gr NTX
AutoComp
5.9 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2460


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 470

Notes: Lost a primer on my only shot + velocity is regressing - beyond max

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35 Grain Hornady NTX + Hodgdon HS6

35 Gr NTX
HS6
6.2 Grs

FPS - 2349


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 3
Ft Lbs Energy 429

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NTX
HS6
6.4 Grs

FPS - 2407


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 6
Ft Lbs Energy 450

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NTX
HS6
6.6 Grs

FPS - 2510


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 490

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NTX
HS6
6.8 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2534


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 499

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NTX
HS6
7.0 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2599


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 525

Notes: Lost the primer - beyond max

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35 Grain Hornady NTX + Hodgdon Longshot

35 Gr NTX
Longshot
5.7 Grs

FPS - 2400


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 9
Ft Lbs Energy 448

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NTX
Longshot
5.8 Grs

FPS - 2406


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 450

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NTX
Longshot
5.9 Grs

FPS - 2446


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 465

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NTX
Longshot
6.0 Grs

FPS - 2455


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 469

Notes: Standard Function

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35 Gr NTX
Longshot
6.1 Grs

FPS - 2510


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 490

Notes: End of my ladder - do not exceed this level without entering untested territory…

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40 Grain Hornady Vmax + Winchester WSF

40 Gr Vmax
WSF
4.6

FPS - 2051


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 374

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
WSF
4.8

FPS - 2103


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 393

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
WSF
5.0

FPS - 2157


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 413

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
WSF
5.2

FPS - 2212


Sample Size 16
Stand. Dev. 15
Ft Lbs Energy 435

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
WSF
5.4

FPS - 2263


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 455

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
WSF
5.6

FPS - 2318


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 19
Ft Lbs Energy 477

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
WSF
5.8

FPS - 2351


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 491

Notes: Primer is starting to flatten - ejected well

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40 Gr Vmax
WSF
6.0 *Caution*

FPS - 2415


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 518

Notes: Flat Primer - Functioned and ejected - brass was ok… Use caution if approaching this level…

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40 Gr Vmax
WSF
6.2 *Danger*

FPS - 2428


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 524

Notes: Brass was stuck in the bolt face - Failed To Eject - Do not approach this level…

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40 Grain Hornady Vmax + Hodgdon HS6

40 Gr Vmax
HS6
5.8

FPS - 2161


Sample Size 15
Stand. Dev. 15
Ft Lbs Energy 415

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
HS6
6.0

FPS - 2232


Sample Size 9
Stand. Dev. 15
Ft Lbs Energy 443

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
HS6
6.2

FPS - 2298


Sample Size 16
Stand. Dev. 17
Ft Lbs Energy 469

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
HS6
6.4

FPS - 2369


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 20
Ft Lbs Energy 499

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
HS6
6.6

FPS - 2424


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 522

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
HS6
6.8

FPS - 2453


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 16
Ft Lbs Energy 535

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
HS6
7.0 *Max*

FPS - 2487


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 549

Notes: I would call this the max - Recoil is very strong - might want to stay below this level…

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40 Gr Vmax
HS6
7.2 *Caution*

FPS - 2549


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 577

Notes: Functioned Ok… Brass was ok... Recoil is really strong however - I just can recommend going this high…

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40 Grain Hornady Vmax + True Blue

40 Gr Vmax
True Blue
5.6 Grs

FPS - 2213


Sample Size 20
Stand. Dev. 12
Ft Lbs Energy 435

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
True Blue
5.7 Grs

FPS - 2254


Sample Size 20
Stand. Dev. 12
Ft Lbs Energy 451

Notes: Hit or miss function - may cause a jam or mag pop - I am not caring much for True Blue in the PS90…

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40 Gr Vmax
True Blue
6.0 Grs

FPS - 2311


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 5
Ft Lbs Energy 475

Notes: Hit or miss function - may cause a jam or mag pop - I am not caring much for True Blue in the PS90…

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40 Gr Vmax
True Blue
6.1 Grs

FPS - 2351


Sample Size 13
Stand. Dev. 12
Ft Lbs Energy 491

Notes: Hit or miss function - may cause a jam or mag pop - I am not caring much for True Blue in the PS90…

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40 Gr Vmax
True Blue
6.3 Grs

FPS - 2388


Sample Size 8
Stand. Dev. 8
Ft Lbs Energy 506

Notes: Hit or miss function - may cause a jam or mag pop - I am not caring much for True Blue in the PS90…

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40 Gr Vmax
True Blue
6.4 Grs

FPS - 2413


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 15
Ft Lbs Energy 517

Notes: Ok function for these shots - most likely will jam or cause the mag to pop up in rapid fire strings however

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40 Gr Vmax
True Blue
6.5 Grs

FPS - 2435


Sample Size 7
Stand. Dev. 18
Ft Lbs Energy 527

Notes: Ok function for these shots - most likely will jam or cause the mag to pop up in rapid fire strings however

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40 Gr Vmax
True Blue
6.6 Grs

FPS - 2456


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 8
Ft Lbs Energy 536

Notes: Ok function for these shots - most likely will jam or cause the mag to pop up in rapid fire strings however

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40 Gr Vmax
True Blue
6.7 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2501


Sample Size 8
Stand. Dev. 13
Ft Lbs Energy 556

Notes: I would call this the Max in terms of potential charge - However it still jams or causes the mag to pop up

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40 Gr Vmax
True Blue
6.8 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2526


Sample Size 8
Stand. Dev. 10
Ft Lbs Energy 567

Notes: Not recommended - The brass can handle this load, but the gun will jam and will not run smoothly…

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40 Gr Vmax
True Blue
6.9 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2559


Sample Size 8
Stand. Dev. 9
Ft Lbs Energy 582

Notes: Not recommended this high - too many jams - I finally lost a primer - Do not use…

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40 Grain Hornady Vmax + Ramshot Enforcer

40 Gr Vmax
Enforcer
7.5 Grs

FPS - 2114


Sample Size 10
Stand. Dev. 25
Ft Lbs Energy 397

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
Enforcer
8.0 Grs

FPS - 2267


Sample Size 10
Stand. Dev. 20
Ft Lbs Energy 457

Notes: Had one Jam right at the end of my string - maybe just a little too much - back off to 7.8 or so?

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40 Grain Hornady Vmax + Bullseye

40 Gr Vmax
BullsEye
4.2 Grs

FPS - 2086


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 387

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
BullsEye
4.4 Grs

FPS - 2093


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 389

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
BullsEye
4.6 Grs

FPS - 2189


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 426

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
BullsEye
4.8 Grs

FPS - 2298


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 469

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
BullsEye
5.0 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2290


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 466

Notes: Functioned and ejected - Primers are getting pretty flat and velocity is planning off - most likely close to or at the max

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40 Grain Hornady Vmax + Alliant Steel

40 Gr Vmax
Steel
5.0 Grs

FPS - 2018


Sample Size 5
Stand. Dev. 12
Ft Lbs Energy 362

Notes: Standard Function - Great Powder and load for begginers - I recommend 5.0 grs for consistency…

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40 Gr Vmax
Steel
5.4 Grs

FPS - 2167


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 26
Ft Lbs Energy 417

Notes: Standard Function - Good load - you can go up to around 6.0 grains safely, but consistency drops off - stay around 5.4 or under…

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40 Grain Hornady Vmax + Winchester AutoComp

40 Gr Vmax
AutoComp
4.8 Grs

FPS - 2054


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 375

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AutoComp
5.0 Grs

FPS - 2169


Sample Size 18
Stand. Dev. 10
Ft Lbs Energy 418

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AutoComp
5.2 Grs


FPS - 2215


Sample Size 14
Stand. Dev. 11
Ft Lbs Energy 436

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AutoComp
5.4 Grs


FPS - 2282


Sample Size 16
Stand. Dev. 8
Ft Lbs Energy 463

Notes: I shot another string of 26 shots - FPS-2260 | SD-19 - This is an excellent load for the PS90

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40 Gr Vmax
AutoComp
5.6 Grs

FPS - 2338


Sample Size 16
Stand. Dev. 22
Ft Lbs Energy 486

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AutoComp
5.7 Grs

FPS - 2347


Sample Size 10
Stand. Dev. 25
Ft Lbs Energy 489

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AutoComp
5.8 Grs

FPS - 2376


Sample Size 6
Stand. Dev. 10
Ft Lbs Energy 501

Notes: The very first round Failed to Eject - The remaining shots were fine...

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40 Gr Vmax
AutoComp
6.0 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2405


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 6
Ft Lbs Energy 514

Notes: The very first round FTE again - The remaining shots were fine - Need more tests..

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40 Gr Vmax
AutoComp
6.1 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2429


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 3
Ft Lbs Energy 524

Notes: Starting to see some black rings around the primer - I stopped here - Caution Load below this charge

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40 Grain Hornady Vmax + AA#9

40 Gr Vmax
AA#9
7.8 Grs

FPS - 2271


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 32
Ft Lbs Energy 458

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AA#9
8.0 Grs

FPS - 2320


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 25
Ft Lbs Energy 478

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AA#9
8.2 Grs

FPS - 2431


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 22
Ft Lbs Energy 525

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AA#9
8.3 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2405


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 9
Ft Lbs Energy 514

Notes: Short Necks - Velocity is regressing - Probably best to stay under 8.3 grains

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40 Grain Hornady Vmax + Blue Dot

40 Gr Vmax
Blue Dot
6.4 Grs

FPS - 2366


Sample Size 5
Stand. Dev. 18
Ft Lbs Energy 497

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
Blue Dot
6.6 Grs

FPS - 2412


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 32
Ft Lbs Energy 517

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
Blue Dot
6.7 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2444


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 10
Ft Lbs Energy 531

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
Blue Dot
6.8 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2460


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 16
Ft Lbs Energy 537

Notes: Primers showed leakage around the outside and were slightly pushed back - over max

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40 Grain Hornady Vmax + Longshot

40 Gr Vmax
Longshot
5.0 Grs

FPS - 2157


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 413

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
Longshot
5.2 Grs

FPS - 2237


Sample Size 6
Stand. Dev. 20
Ft Lbs Energy 445

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
Longshot
5.4 Grs

FPS - 2257


Sample Size 23
Stand. Dev. 19
Ft Lbs Energy 453

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
Longshot
5.5 Grs

FPS - 2309


Sample Size 15
Stand. Dev. 17
Ft Lbs Energy 473

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
Longshot
5.6 Grs

FPS - 2334


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 484

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
Longshot
5.7 Grs

FPS - 2351


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 491

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
Longshot
5.9 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2386


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 36
Ft Lbs Energy 506

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
Longshot
6.0 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2408


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 7
Ft Lbs Energy 515

Notes: *Caution - all three necks had cracking - stay under 6.0grs

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40 Grain Hornady Vmax + AA#7 ( Old Formula - OF)

40 Gr Vmax
AA#7 (OF)
7.0 Grs

FPS - 2278


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 26
Ft Lbs Energy 461

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AA#7 (OF)
7.2 Grs

FPS - 2364


Sample Size 6
Stand. Dev. 23
Ft Lbs Energy 496

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AA#7 (OF)
7.4 Grs

FPS - 2435


Sample Size 6
Stand. Dev. 21
Ft Lbs Energy 527

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AA#7 (OF)
7.5 Grs

FPS - 2450


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 31
Ft Lbs Energy 533

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AA#7 (OF)
7.6 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2525


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 10
Ft Lbs Energy 566

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AA#7 (OF)
7.7 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2489


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 8
Ft Lbs Energy 551

Notes: Velocity regression from the 7.6gr load - necks are getting real short - stay under 7.7grs

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40 Grain Hornady Vmax +AA#7 ( Current Formula )

40 Gr Vmax
AA#7
7.0 Grs

FPS - 2206


Sample Size 17
Stand. Dev. 23
Ft Lbs Energy 432

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AA#7
7.2 Grs

FPS - 2254


Sample Size 5
Stand. Dev. 18
Ft Lbs Energy 451

Notes: Standard Function

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40 Gr Vmax
AA#7
7.5 Grs

FPS - 2377


Sample Size 5
Stand. Dev. 9
Ft Lbs Energy 502

Notes: Standard Function

40 Gr Vmax
AA#7
7.7 Grs

FPS - 2389


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 6
Ft Lbs Energy 507

Notes: Necks are getting short… good function

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40 Gr Vmax
AA#7
7.8 Grs

FPS - 2409


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 4
Ft Lbs Energy 515

Notes: Really short necks - use caution at or near this level…

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45 Grain Barnes Banded Solid (BBS) + Winchester AutoComp

45 Gr BBS
AutoComp
5.2 Grs

FPS - 2014


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 405

Notes: Standard Function

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45 Grain Barnes Banded Solid (BBS) + Hodgdon HS6

45 Gr BBS
HS6
5.8 Grs

FPS - 2045


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 26
Ft Lbs Energy 418

Notes: Standard Function

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45 Gr BBS
HS6
6.0 Grs

FPS - 2087


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 9
Ft Lbs Energy 435

Notes: Standard Function

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45 Gr BBS
HS6
6.2 Grs

FPS - 2152


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 12
Ft Lbs Energy 463

Notes: Standard Function

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45 Gr BBS
HS6
6.4 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2175


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 473

Notes: Bad neck dent - The 6.6 gr load I shot Failed to Eject - stay below 6.4 grains in this combo…

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45 Grain Barnes Banded Solid (BBS) + True Blue

45 Gr BBS
True Blue
6.0 Grs

FPS - 2147


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 461

Notes: Standard Function

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45 Gr BBS
True Blue
6.1 Grs

FPS - 2169


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 470

Notes: Standard Function

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45 Gr BBS
True Blue
6.2 Grs

FPS - 2197


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 482

Notes: Standard Function

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45 Gr BBS
True Blue
6.3 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2221


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 493

Notes: This shot functioned, but beware of jams or mag pop-ups with TB…

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45 Gr BBS
True Blue
6.4 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2208


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 487

Notes: Velocity regression - primer has a black ring - beyond max

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45 Grain Barnes Banded Solid (BBS) + AA#7 ( Old Formula - OF)

45 Gr BBS
AA#7 (OF)
7.0 Grs *Best*

FPS - 2235


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 3
Ft Lbs Energy 499

Notes: This is the "Practical Max" - I would recommend it over the 7.1 gr load.

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45 Gr BBS
AA#7 (OF)
7.1 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2218


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 10
Ft Lbs Energy 492

Notes: Velocity was a little less than the 7.0 Gr. Load - this is the max, though 7.0 Grs is a better choice…

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45 Gr BBS
AA#7 (OF)
7.2 Grs *Danger*

FPS - 2201


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 38
Ft Lbs Energy 484

Notes: * Cracked necks in two casings - velocity is inconsistent - do not use - beyond max

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45 Grain Barnes Banded Solid (BBS) + Blue Dot

45 Gr BBS
Blue Dot
6.0 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2129


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 17
Ft Lbs Energy 453

Notes: Max load - do not exceed - start at 5.5 grs and work up slowly.

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45 Gr BBS
Blue Dot
6.1 Grs *Danger*

FPS - 2169


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 23
Ft Lbs Energy 470

Notes: Lost a primer, FTF, FTE, severe leakage around other primers - this is beyond the max (which surprised me) - anyway - Do Not Use

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45 Grain Barnes Banded Solid (BBS) + AA#9

45 Gr BBS
AA#9
7.3 Grs

FPS - 2089


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 436

Notes: Standard Function

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45 Gr BBS
AA#9
7.4 Grs

FPS - 2106


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 443

Notes: Standard Function

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45 Gr BBS
AA#9
7.5 Grs

FPS - 2185


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 477

Notes: End of my ladder - Not sure if there is room to move up… use caution

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50 Grain Combined Tech. Ballistic Silver Tip (CTBST) + Longshot

50 Gr CTBST
Longshot
5.4 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2056


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 19
Ft Lbs Energy 469

Notes: Standard Function

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50 Gr CTBST
Longshot
5.5 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2074


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 3
Ft Lbs Energy 478

Notes: Lost one primer & neck was dented - Next round failed to feed - beyond max - Caution

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50 Grain Combined Tech. Ballistic Silver Tip (CTBST) + Blue Dot

50 Gr CTBST
Blue Dot
5.9 Grs *Max*

FPS - 2051


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 10
Ft Lbs Energy 467

Notes: Standard Function

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50 Gr CTBST
Blue Dot
6.0 Grs *Caution*

FPS - 2076


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 10
Ft Lbs Energy 478

Notes: Standard Function

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50 Gr CTBST
Blue Dot
6.1 Grs *Danger*

FPS - 2124


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 5
Ft Lbs Energy 501

Notes: *One round didn’t eject properly and got jammed, Lost its primer and smoke - Do not load at or above this level - beyond max - Danger

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55 Grain Hornady Full Metal Jacket (HFMJ) + True Blue

55 Gr HFMJ
True Blue
4.5 Grs

FPS - 1672


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 9
Ft Lbs Energy 342

Notes: Standard Function

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55 Gr HFMJ
True Blue
4.8 Grs

FPS - 1758


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 378

Notes: Standard Function

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55 Gr HFMJ
True Blue
5.0 Grs

FPS - 1803


Sample Size 2
Stand. Dev. 13
Ft Lbs Energy 397

Notes: Standard Function

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55 Gr HFMJ
True Blue
5.2 Grs

FPS - 1844


Sample Size 3
Stand. Dev. 20
Ft Lbs Energy 415

Notes: Standard Function

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55 Gr HFMJ
True Blue
5.4 Grs *Max*

FPS - 1902


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 442

Notes: Necks are really short at 5.4 grs - I shot a 5.5gr load also and it failed to eject… So this is the Max

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55 Grain Hornady Full Metal Jacket (HFMJ) + Hodgdon HS6

55 Gr HFMJ
HS6
2.5 Grs *Subsonic*

FPS - 777


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 74

Notes: Cycled the action

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55 Gr HFMJ
HS6
3.0 Grs *Subsonic*

FPS - 1018


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 127

Notes: Cycled the action

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55 Gr HFMJ
HS6
3.5 Grs

FPS - 1243


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 189

Notes: Cycled the action - Too fast for a subsonic…

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55 Grain Hornady Full Metal Jacket (HFMJ) + Winchester WSF

55 Gr HFMJ
WSF
2.5 Grs *Subsonic*

FPS - 1005


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 123

Notes: Cycled the action

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55 Gr HFMJ
WSF
3.0 Grs

FPS - 1231


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 185

Notes: Cycled the action- too fast for a subsonic…

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55 Grain Hornady Full Metal Jacket (HFMJ) + Winchester AutoComp

55 Gr HFMJ
AutoComp
2.5 Grs *Subsonic*

FPS - 1059


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 137

Notes: Cycled the action

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55 Gr HFMJ
AutoComp
3.0 Grs

FPS - 1231


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 185

Notes: Cycled the action - too fast for a subsonic…

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55 Gr HFMJ
AutoComp
3.0 Grs

FPS - 1050


Sample Size 1
Stand. Dev. #DIV/0!
Ft Lbs Energy 135

Notes: Cycled the action - good load

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Re: PS90 Load Data

Post by blueorison » 05 Dec 2010, 17:20

Gold star. :thumb:
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Re: PS90 Load Data

Post by starfury » 06 Dec 2010, 19:52

Excellent Work!!!

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Re: PS90 Load Data

Post by 338lm » 10 Dec 2010, 00:35

NICE WORK!!! Were your 40 Gr Vmax the blue tip hornady's pulled from SS197 with the boat tail? Reason I'm asking is http://www.eliteammunition.net" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; has quite the price on these, and I'd like to match some of the load data you provided.

Thanks,

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Re: PS90 Load Data

Post by blueorison » 10 Dec 2010, 01:07

338lm wrote:NICE WORK!!! Were your 40 Gr Vmax the blue tip hornady's pulled from SS197 with the boat tail? Reason I'm asking is http://www.eliteammunition.net" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; has quite the price on these, and I'd like to match some of the load data you provided.

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Re: PS90 Load Data

Post by iFire » 10 Dec 2010, 09:18

As Blu said, all 40 grain vmaxs have boat tails. And yes, elite has some good prices on them and they are identical to hornady's boxed bullets, just with a blue tip instead of red.

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Re: PS90 Load Data

Post by iFire » 13 Dec 2010, 10:46

More data added

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Re: PS90 Load Data

Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 15 Dec 2010, 23:06

Curious if you are using a weight on the bolt of your ps90???
I am thinking about removing the lead tape on the bolt of mine and seeing if my load will shoot without popping the mag.

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Re: PS90 Load Data

Post by iFire » 16 Dec 2010, 16:58

No, I am not using a weight. These loads are with my stock ps90.

I am going to make a new ROF stabiler with added weight soon. Then I can test the difference a weighted bolt makes...

Interestingly enough, the mag on my gun just never seems to pop up. Not even with loads that I have have put through the gun that are downright crazily overcharged. I have had it pop only once in all my shooting... who knows...

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Re: PS90 Load Data

Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 17 Dec 2010, 11:11

The weighted bolt should help with the empty cases getting stuck between the bolt and the barrel. If your mag isn't popping or the cases on non over max charges are not getting stuck in the action I do not see how you would have anything to gain. EA is supposed to be testing one, I will purchase one when it becomes avalible. For now I have lead tape, I believe 35 grams worth.

There is a good thread by ninthinning in the ps90 section about weighting the bolt, if you are interested do a search for high power bolt mod (I think that is the name of the thread).

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Re: PS90 Load Data

Post by iFire » 18 Dec 2010, 10:26

Some A#9 and AutoComp data added...

Quick note:

1)The "new" A#7 formula will not get you the same velocity as the old formula - expect less velocity at any given charge - The max loads i listed are ok to use because the new fromula is slightly "weaker"... The new formula might have a higher max charge because of this, but it still wont get you up to the same velocity. It just doesnt work as well as the old formula...

If your unsure of which one you have, this is how mine are distinguished:

Old
1) Lot number is a sticker on the bottom of bottle (No silver bar on back of label)
2) DOES NOT have "Made in USA" on side of bottle in red

New
1) Lot number is on the back (right top) of the label in a silver bar
2) On the side of the bottle under Western Powders it says "Made in USA" in red
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Re: FF's 5.7x28mm Load Data

Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 21 Dec 2010, 09:27

Epic thread man. Since apparently there are two different blends or w.e of accurate #7 you should make a distinction asw to old or new formula on the load data for it.

Nice work man :thumb:

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Re: FF's 5.7x28mm Load Data

Post by iFire » 21 Dec 2010, 16:36

Distinction Made between "Old" and "NEW" A#7

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Re: FF's 5.7x28mm Load Data

Post by FASN8ER » 26 Dec 2010, 22:23

Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is A#7?

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Re: FF's 5.7x28mm Load Data

Post by f3rr37 » 26 Dec 2010, 23:47

FASN8ER wrote:Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is A#7?
Gun powder. :)

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Re: FF's 5.7x28mm Load Data

Post by Rapier1772 » 27 Dec 2010, 00:22

f3rr37 wrote:
FASN8ER wrote:Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is A#7?
Gun powder. :)
Accurate #7
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Re: FF's 5.7x28mm Load Data

Post by ninthinning » 02 Jan 2011, 14:06

First class report. I am trying to understand why your magazine does not pop up shooting these powerful rounds. What is your barrel length? Would you post a picture of your hammer group? What color is the hammer? Does your group have an auto sear?
Thank you,
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Re: FF's 5.7x28mm Load Data

Post by iFire » 02 Jan 2011, 17:25

Ninth - see post for some pics of the hammer/trigger pack

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=9622&p=142452#p142452" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The weight in the above link is a new addition, it is not being used for the data in this post.

As i mentioned before, I have had the mag pop up only once in all my shooting, so I know what your talking about, just doesnt happen with my gun except for that once...

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Re: FF's 5.7x28mm Load Data

Post by ninthinning » 03 Jan 2011, 05:40

Thank you for posting photos of your PS90. When firing powerful rounds with my PS90 the magazine did not pop out on each shot. When there was just one round in the magazine for test shots the magazine did not pop. This may have been because the gases flowed into the empty magazine space and reduced the gas pressure. Also, when shooting multiple high power rounds, the magazine would pop two out of five times. In your tests did you use single rounds for the high power rounds or did you load multiple rounds?
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Re: FF's 5.7x28mm Load Data

Post by iFire » 03 Jan 2011, 07:43

Ok, let's say I build a ladder of rounds - 3 each of 5 different charge weights - then I would have 15 rounds in the mag for that particular test...

I have loaded as many as 25 or so for testing and as little as maybe 3 or 4.

As would be expected, as I shoot the strings of shots, it is continually moving closer to empty.

The only thing I could think to do differently, if it would even matter, is to load some dummy rounds on the press and use them as fillers so that my mag is "nearly full" during the test strings and see what (if any?) difference it makes. Dummy rounds would just be smart so that nothing gets mixed up...

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