5.7x28 Random Reloading Discussions

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Post by eVenom » 30 Jun 2011, 19:43

Has anybody tried to make blanks? I know FN makes them but I was wondering if anybody even tried to make one on their own

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Post by iFire » 30 Jun 2011, 19:56

Wollychop wrote:
Grantness wrote:every heard of parallax? That's why chrono's aren't safe w/ many carbines/rifles....hehe
I just have my wife stand on the opposite side and ensure the muzzle is properly aligned for the shot, then she ducks.

Just kidding. :D
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Post by panzermk2 » 30 Jun 2011, 20:43

eVenom wrote:Has anybody tried to make blanks? I know FN makes them but I was wondering if anybody even tried to make one on their own

You would need an adapter. Also although there would be no bullet involved there would be more labor so the blanks would cost almost as much as loaded ammo. I have looked into it.
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Post by Grantness » 30 Jun 2011, 22:06

u can use wax or something similar... i heard u dont need any kind of permit to manufacture and sell them though...

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Post by iFire » 01 Jul 2011, 18:45

Blanks would be a fun project to try... Although I dont think I would put it on my to do list ahead of making real rounds. Sending bullets out the barrel just seems like more fun than sending hot air :laugh:

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Post by Grantness » 01 Jul 2011, 21:57

yep....ive just been in a funk cause i can't seem to beat any of the loads i've got!

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Post by iFire » 02 Jul 2011, 05:47

Grantness wrote:yep....ive just been in a funk cause i can't seem to beat any of the loads i've got!
If you get an AR57 or PS90 that will completely change :laugh: - If you got the AR57 you would have to literally completely re-test everything to see what works well in your system with your particular buffer, etc... If you got a 90 then you would still have enough testing to do - just not as much, since I have done a lot with the 90 already :D

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Post by Esteves » 02 Jul 2011, 06:53

iFire wrote:Blanks would be a fun project to try... Although I dont think I would put it on my to do list ahead of making real rounds. Sending bullets out the barrel just seems like more fun than sending hot air :laugh:
How about snake-shot?...

The 5.7x28 has some challenges here. Unlike 22LR or 22WMR that can/do fill as much of their straight-walled cases with as much shot as possible by using a wad far back in the case, the 5.7's bottleneck design calls for a different approach.
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Post by PainKillaX » 02 Jul 2011, 09:32

Esteves wrote:
iFire wrote:Blanks would be a fun project to try... Although I dont think I would put it on my to do list ahead of making real rounds. Sending bullets out the barrel just seems like more fun than sending hot air :laugh:
How about snake-shot?...

The 5.7x28 has some challenges here. Unlike 22LR or 22WMR that can/do fill as much of their straight-walled cases with as much shot as possible by using a wad far back in the case, the 5.7's bottleneck design calls for a different approach.
Could you make a .224 diameter paper cup type thingy filled with shot and set it in there?

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Post by iFire » 02 Jul 2011, 09:36

PainKillaX wrote:
Esteves wrote:
iFire wrote:Blanks would be a fun project to try... Although I dont think I would put it on my to do list ahead of making real rounds. Sending bullets out the barrel just seems like more fun than sending hot air :laugh:
How about snake-shot?...

The 5.7x28 has some challenges here. Unlike 22LR or 22WMR that can/do fill as much of their straight-walled cases with as much shot as possible by using a wad far back in the case, the 5.7's bottleneck design calls for a different approach.
Could you make a .224 diameter paper cup type thingy filled with shot and set it in there?
Interesting thoughts... It would be fun to try, but a lot of work I would imagine, although I do have a few ideas :ponder:

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Post by iFire » 02 Jul 2011, 09:37

Some 35gr NTX loads...

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Post by eVenom » 02 Jul 2011, 18:24

they look awsome!!

I have a question about NTX... you said that the energy of these is not as much as the 40g but when I look at your data it seems to b the other way around.

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Post by iFire » 02 Jul 2011, 19:41

eVenom wrote:they look awsome!!

I have a question about NTX... you said that the energy of these is not as much as the 40g but when I look at your data it seems to b the other way around.
Thanks - they turned out pretty nice :D

About the energy - the 40g loads definitely have more energy potential, no doubt about it. Look at the 35gr NTX load with HS6 for instance and compare it to the 40gr Vmax with HS6 - I believe the most I could get out of the 35gr was approx 500 ft lbs while I was able to get approx 550+ ft lbs out of the 40gr.

Overall the 35gr is an excellent bullet and an excellent choice - I will be using them quite a bit...

The best load in the PS90 is 5.5grs of AutoComp with the 35gr NTX - amazingly consistent, plenty of energy without pushing any limits, and the smoothest recoil I have ever felt. If you play around shooting different powders you start to appreciate which ones 'feel' good and which ones don't...

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Post by iFire » 02 Jul 2011, 21:11

Had some time to finally get some pics and a vid thrown together. Here are some of them - a few have already been posted elsewhere...

My new '5.7 dedicated' workbench upstairs - All other equipment and presses stay on the workbench in the basement...
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A test batch of rounds ready for chronographing
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Resized and sonic cleaned in Mean Green
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A good size run of 40gr Vmax's
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Another run of 34gr VNE's
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A Demo of the Dillon loading 35gr NTX 5.7 rounds

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Post by panzermk2 » 02 Jul 2011, 21:15

Nice set up!
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Post by Grantness » 03 Jul 2011, 00:31

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Post by eVenom » 03 Jul 2011, 06:52

:clap: Some day!!! :thumb:

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Post by shooter » 03 Jul 2011, 09:59

Nice! Way too neat and well organized...... :thumb:

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Post by iFire » 04 Jul 2011, 13:57

Thanks guys :D

I have a cluttered reloading bench in the basement full of everything... So I decided to get a new secondary workbench to be used exclusively for 'finish work reloading' that would stay neat and clean and not get full of junk like normal workbenches do so quickly... I may have to post a few more pics when I can take them of the whole bench and its features and modifications...

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Post by ehryk » 05 Jul 2011, 17:27

regarding those NTX bullets, how is their terminal performance in gel? IIRC it has a compressed powder core, so I would think it would basicly behave like a Varment Grenade, eh?

What I wouldn't give for a 30 grain TSX hehehehehe

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