R&R Weapon Systems 5.7x28 ammo

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R&R Weapon Systems 5.7x28 ammo

Post by ChalupaCabras » 14 Oct 2014, 05:01

I was browsing 5.7 ammo on Gun Broker, and saw listings for ammunition produced by a company called 'R&R Weapon Systems'.

They have 0 feedback, and searches on Google and this forum turned up nothing, so I don't have any info on them.

I E-mailed the seller through GB, and promptly recieved a polite and professional E-Mail from the seller with links to their website and verious social media pages. He says they are new, and just haven't done a lot of buisness yet...

They seem legit to me, but I'm very hesitant to be the first one to jump. Does anyone here have experience with them, or know who these guys are?

*Edit* I'm not a bot, spammer, or affiliated with these guys in any way - look at my profile, and you will see I've been registered here for 3 years.

http://www.rrweaponsystems.com/
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Post by panzermk2 » 14 Oct 2014, 08:41

Contact email,

ryan@rrweaponsystems.com


What are the odds?
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Post by jgreenberg01 » 14 Oct 2014, 09:25

panzermk2 wrote:Contact email,

ryan@rrweaponsystems.com


What are the odds?
Say it isn't so...


*** EDIT: his twitter account says he's in Madison, WI.

Odds - they seem pretty good.
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Post by panzermk2 » 14 Oct 2014, 09:55

Yep he is still in WI. So odds are good.
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Post by ChalupaCabras » 14 Oct 2014, 10:10

Seems like you know both know this person then.

Color me Ignorant, but I don't know Ryan from Adam. Would you educate me?

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 14 Oct 2014, 12:13

Let's just say that this is a company that it's probably be best to stay away from. IMHO of course.
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Post by ChalupaCabras » 14 Oct 2014, 13:59

Thanks...

I'll spend my money on SS198 then.

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Post by Buffman » 14 Oct 2014, 18:32

The Whois says the website was registered this year from Kirkland WA

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Post by panzermk2 » 14 Oct 2014, 19:35

Tried to do a basic search but the damn ATF website does not make it easy to look up an FFL by their name.

Funny how they have copied my rounds. Just went with bullets they could get.


Soon my in house brass will be flowing and all of this will be mute.


Fun factoid though, currently all EA ammo NIB, not conversion, is being loaded on 100% virgin brass that has NEVER had a bullet in it or anything else.
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Post by grimmond » 14 Oct 2014, 20:54

Dang Jay, you always have too much fun with that tease of your brass. Out with it I say. Lets have some play time with your rounds. :p
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Post by panzermk2 » 14 Oct 2014, 21:01

Waiting on the cups.
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Post by Buffman » 15 Oct 2014, 13:37

This does not sound like Ryan H from the contact reply I received :)

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Post by bruteandbear1 » 16 Oct 2014, 08:26

Hey the more people manufacturing the 5.7x28mm the better it brings the demand down and there for the price as well!!! I just hope someone will give it a try and see how they are.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 16 Oct 2014, 11:36

Yes & no. The person to whom they are referring has proven to be a liar & a cheat in the past.
I am not saying this R&R company is being run by, or is affiliated with, the same person.

Some of the posts are merely pointing out that there are some similarities which warrant caution/investigation.

If R&R is not affiliated with that person, then I wish them the best.
If they are, I hope they sever any/all connections with him ASAP before it bites them in keister too.
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Post by Oldbindlestiff » 16 Oct 2014, 11:58

panzermk2 wrote:Waiting on the cups.
??? Elaborate, please.
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Post by Buffman » 16 Oct 2014, 18:39

The owner's name is Ryan Doll. I mean totally possible it's an alias but I doubt it.

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Post by panzermk2 » 17 Oct 2014, 00:31

Oldbindlestiff wrote:
panzermk2 wrote:Waiting on the cups.
??? Elaborate, please.
cups are just that. Small cup like units that are feed into a press and
over a series of stampings are extruded into shell cases.
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Post by Oldbindlestiff » 17 Oct 2014, 06:31

I have never given much thought to how a shell casing is actually formed, other than thinking that they are all extruded and formed as a single piece.

Thanks. :thumb:
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Post by panzermk2 » 17 Oct 2014, 10:56

Oldbindlestiff wrote:I have never given much thought to how a shell casing is actually formed, other than thinking that they are all extruded and formed as a single piece.

Thanks. :thumb:

Check this out. The cup and extrusion process is the same for cartridges cases and bullet jackets.

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Post by Oldbindlestiff » 17 Oct 2014, 13:32

Thanks again, Jay. I'd be embarrassed to admit to the number of cases that I have reloaded with only a passing thought to how they are made! :clap:
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