P90 used by Waco SWAT

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P90 used by Waco SWAT

Post by CPTKILLER » 18 May 2015, 09:59

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/17/us/galler ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Scroll through the photos and see a P90 carried by Sheriff's SWAT in Waco, Texas in the confrontation with bikers here in Texas.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 18 May 2015, 16:59

For those too lazy to scroll through the article pics:

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Re: P90 used by Waco SWAT

Post by DoubleJ » 18 May 2015, 19:08

What's his sidearm? Isn't the whole point using the same ammo in both?

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Post by bruteandbear1 » 19 May 2015, 06:00

The 5.7 is the perfect caliber choice for bikers with heavy coats and possibly armor because it will nuetralize the target with not causing any damage to a by stander.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 19 May 2015, 07:53

bruteandbear1 wrote:The 5.7 is the perfect caliber choice for bikers with heavy coats and possibly armor because it will nuetralize the target with not causing any damage to a by stander.
Unless the shooter misses
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Re: P90 used by Waco SWAT

Post by blueorison » 19 May 2015, 08:02

Rapier1772 wrote:
bruteandbear1 wrote:The 5.7 is the perfect caliber choice for bikers with heavy coats and possibly armor because it will nuetralize the target with not causing any damage to a by stander.
Unless the shooter misses
LOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

But seriously.

This is my favorite line when people spend hours debating "THIS VS THAT" caliber.

It's so pointless, when the correct question they should be asking is "can the hit be accomplished by the shooter".

People have been killed by dumb luck shots and some have survived from a torrent of bullets aimed directly at them and hitting them (.40cal)

This, IIRC and my facts are straight.
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Re: P90 used by Waco SWAT

Post by Erich » 19 May 2015, 15:54

McLennan County SO not Waco PD

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Post by Bazzer69 » 19 May 2015, 22:58

The PS90 is a really nice weapon in my view for this kind of situation. My mags would not contain a single type of round but several stacked. Start with a Ss190 followed by a fragmenting round followed by a incederary round. All my shots would be head shots or groin shots. It's hard to shoot back with a bullet to the head or one in the pelvis ( makes it very hard to stand up) I wish I had a pub type weapon when I was in the Mob ( British Army)

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Post by PainKillaX » 20 May 2015, 01:39

The head is, all things considered, a pretty small target. Two in the flak, one in the sack.

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Post by CPTKILLER » 20 May 2015, 07:53

The P90 remains an impressive weapon for SWAT when most shots are in confusing and close areas. Glad to see this here in Texas.

As an aside to this, there is an issue with the quantity of thugs in jail, McLennan County DA is overwhelmed. We may see many of these thugs here in Austin, Texas at the Republic of Texas (ROT) Rally in Austin, Texas on June 11 - June 14. Travis County, Hays County, Bastrop County, Williamson County and several police agencies will have their hands full.

50,000 bikers are expected in Austin, Texas.

http://www.rotrally.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://austin.culturemap.com/news/socie ... rot-rally/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Litehiker » 22 May 2015, 18:23

I have a Magpul MS3 sling on my PS 90 and I like it for the versatility and fast adjustability. The one the sheriff's deputy is using looks like a simple sling that can't be configured as a two point sling and back to one point.

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Post by SAVAGEJIM » 23 May 2015, 18:06

CPTKILLER wrote:The P90 remains an impressive weapon for SWAT when most shots are in confusing and close areas. Glad to see this here in Texas.

As an aside to this, there is an issue with the quantity of thugs in jail, McLennan County DA is overwhelmed. We may see many of these thugs here in Austin, Texas at the Republic of Texas (ROT) Rally in Austin, Texas on June 11 - June 14. Travis County, Hays County, Bastrop County, Williamson County and several police agencies will have their hands full.

50,000 bikers are expected in Austin, Texas.

http://www.rotrally.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://austin.culturemap.com/news/socie ... rot-rally/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Traveling through Austin many times a week, and staying overnight there very frequently, I have seen the RoT Rallies several years.

Some of the bikers attending are definitely unsavory, but the vast majority of the ones I've run into are actually friendly

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Re: P90 used by Waco SWAT

Post by Litehiker » 17 Jul 2015, 22:05

I see the Sherrif's deputy with a P90 and a plate vest but NO P90 mag pouches. What gives with that?

Even a civilian like me has two double mag pouches on a load bearing vest for my PS90. (The Vest Guy made them to my order, MOLLE compatible.)

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