My Five-Seven exploded

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by edorfox » 27 Feb 2012, 17:27

I read a lot of comments regarding the disconnector. It is my opinion that the disconnector is relatively unimportant in the big picture. The actual OOB firing prevention is the geometrically engineered relationship of the firing pin, slide and hammer. If the slide is retracted a few thousandth, the geometry is compromised and the hammer will strike the end of the slide/hammer block instead of the pin.
A question I have regarding this particular incident is, what would happen if a firing pin is stuck. This might happen with hot loads depositing primer brass in the pin hole. The other question, in the example of this thread, is the deformation of the slide structure possible with SS197 EVEN WITH an OOB detonation?

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by fairchase » 28 Feb 2012, 10:26

Surgery went well yesterday. Repaired the severed nerves and removed most of the schrapnel. It will be a few weeks until it is determined to what degree the surgery was successful.

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by Rapier1772 » 28 Feb 2012, 10:33

Most of the shrapnel? Will they be able to get the rest?

Good luck with the recovery - hope it goes quickly.
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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by Buffman » 28 Feb 2012, 10:59

Dude, graphic picture warning!

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by fairchase » 28 Feb 2012, 11:02

Rapier1772 wrote:Most of the shrapnel? Will they be able to get the rest?

Good luck with the recovery - hope it goes quickly.
The surgeon would only recover the schrapnel that was easy to get to, the rest will remain. I am told it is very common to leave schrapnel in the body as it usually does no more harm to the area. Ask a wounded vet that experienced schrapnel.

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by Rapier1772 » 28 Feb 2012, 12:00

I understand that much, but I've also seen where it causes more problems & they have to go back in later. I didn't know if there was plan for more after the swelling when down or what. Swelling is why my knee surgeries took so freaking long, they couldn't do it all at once.
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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by Thedirtyheat » 28 Feb 2012, 12:34

Glad to hear surgery went well pretty wild picture by the way, hope the recovery continues to go smooth

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Re: Utterly catastrophic FsN failure

Post by s-industries » 28 Feb 2012, 15:38

edorfox wrote:...the geometrically engineered relationship...
:laugh:

I'm going to have to add this to my list of phrases that make people go :ponder:



Glad to hear the surgery went well...and that is one sick photo.

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by Valorius » 28 Feb 2012, 16:10

Noob? Haven't i been posting on this forum for almost 2 years? :D

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by fd57 » 28 Feb 2012, 18:00

It looks like you can see both the radial and median nerves in that snap!

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by Rapier1772 » 28 Feb 2012, 20:23

Valorius wrote:Noob? Haven't i been posting on this forum for almost 2 years? :D
Is that all? Thought it was longer.

I just meant you pulled a newbie is all :laugh:
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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by 2ndAMVa » 28 Feb 2012, 22:54

That must have been very painful!
Get well soon!

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by fairchase » 29 Feb 2012, 02:55

2ndAMVa wrote:That must have been very painful!
Get well soon!
It was painful and is painful which is why I am awake at 3am typing one handed. I do expect a solid recovery and plan (hope) to be ready to chase MT spring bear.

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by eddie » 29 Feb 2012, 05:06

wow! what a picture. maybe some photo shop to add little pointers to tell use non doc types which part is what and what they fixed....:)

anyway. good luck with the recovery.

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by rosie » 29 Feb 2012, 06:25

Enough already. No more pictures. No more conjecture. The FN forum had the good taste to close these discussions. It is about time someone did the same here instead of showing us more details on blood and guts and opinions that do not matter in whatever civil case follows..

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by srt-4_jon » 29 Feb 2012, 06:33

Just what this forum needs, more censoring

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by toyslr » 29 Feb 2012, 08:11

Rosie

FN forum had the good taste
they didn't close it because of the picture! They closed it because all the debate about what caused it and then the mod's started arguing over it, being hte bunch of retards that they are!!

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by Buffman » 29 Feb 2012, 09:08

Well the only thing we have is opinions since FNH hasn't had the gun yet to make a determination. It will come down to whether or not there's something wrong with the lot of SS197SR he used, or it wasn't SS197SR. OOB doesn't seem to be the case here as discussed.

Has a lot # been posted yet?

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by fairchase » 29 Feb 2012, 10:19

rosie wrote:Enough already. No more pictures. No more conjecture. The FN forum had the good taste to close these discussions. It is about time someone did the same here instead of showing us more details on blood and guts and opinions that do not matter in whatever civil case follows..
If this thread is upsetting to you, don't click it :ponder:

No "blood and guts" pix of the injury were publicly posted. If a benign surgical picture that was due to a shooting accident appears in front of you while clicking on a thread detailing a major malfunction of a firearm, look away.

The FN Forum mods closed the threads (3 of them) due to intense discussions by its members and with one member in particular leading the charge. That site is highly censored and that is all fine and dandy since the mods can run their site any way they see fit.

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by fairchase » 29 Feb 2012, 11:02

srt-4_jon wrote:Just what this forum needs, more censoring
:agree:

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by fairchase » 29 Feb 2012, 11:04

toyslr wrote:
Rosie

FN forum had the good taste
they didn't close it because of the picture! They closed it because all the debate about what caused it and then the mod's started arguing over it, being hte bunch of retards that they are!!
:agree:

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by Llagoud » 29 Feb 2012, 12:23

Thank you for sharing the picture. I think it's important and beneficial to see. :thumb:

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by fd57 » 29 Feb 2012, 13:28

For every person who doesn't want to see the snap there is another person who wants to see it. Feel free to PM any more snaps you wish to share if ya like. If not, understood. This was a good snap.

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Re: My Five-Seven exploded

Post by Buffman » 29 Feb 2012, 14:04

I merely complained on the other forum, that I didn't need to see it 80 billion times in a row because people don't have common sense when quoting posts.

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