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f3rr37
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Post subject: Re: FiveseveN Failure to Eject  Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:40 am |
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Don't worry, they're fighting back... one round at a time.
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Post subject: Re: FiveseveN Failure to Eject  Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:44 am |
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f3rr37 wrote: Don't worry, they're fighting back... one round at a time. Votes would be more effective at this point. But the rounds may come in very handy later
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Is it still considered assault if you're just trying to slap the stupid out of them?
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Post subject: Re: FiveseveN Failure to Eject  Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:16 am |
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SeaHawkDriver-B wrote: Illinois! Land of Obama... oh joy! King Richard has done more damage locally. Bama never served a full term in the Senate so he wasn't here long enough to f@ck the place up like he is doing to the country right now.
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blueorison
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Post subject: Re: FiveseveN Failure to Eject  Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:05 pm |
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Just talked to a chick coming to Texas and wants to join the UTRP team. She's from Illinois and we chatted for an hour or so, I derived that Illinois was pretty much CA all over again; apparently the people there are really grouchy, also.  Hope you get it fixed, sir! Another testament of EA's custo... uhh well you weren't even a customer hahaha That's how cool EA is. 
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SeaHawkDriver-B
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Post subject: Re: FiveseveN Failure to Eject  Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:56 pm |
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Update.
Well it appears the "Jarvis Fix" has worked. After thoroughly soaking all moving parts in CLP, including a light spraying of CLP on the bullets, the feed ramp, and the chamber, I loaded up the mag with just one round. Fired 10 rounds through the gun with a single round. All successfully ejected. Loaded the gun up with 5 rounds, hit it with a shot of CLP, and it successfully cycled 5 more rounds without a FTF. Then I loaded up 10 rounds and repeated... loaded up 15 rounds and repeated.... 20 rounds and repeated. Didn't have a single FTF or FTE the whole time.
Unforutnatley I didn't bring enough bullets to see where the "threshold" may be.... loading the 30rd up to capacity might be a problem. I will have to do further testing to see if thats the case.
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Post subject: Re: FiveseveN Failure to Eject  Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:07 pm |
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glad you got it working 
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Is it still considered assault if you're just trying to slap the stupid out of them?
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panzermk2
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Post subject: Re: FiveseveN Failure to Eject  Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:31 pm |
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Pretty scary you have to bathe the gun and ammo in lube to get it to work.
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Post subject: Re: FiveseveN Failure to Eject  Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:33 pm |
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:45 pm Posts: 1 Location: stockton, ca
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Hello SeaHawk. I'm new to gun forums. I bought my FiveSeven on November 7th, '08. from Outdoor sportsman here in Stockton, California. Maybe Put 90 rnds if not 140 rnds through it. I have only thrown away 2 or 3 empty boxes over the last 2 years.
I get failure to extract problems in the factory barrel, unless I lube up the casings with silicone based lube. Some casings fly 7 feet away (the 40 grain ss197sr) when well lubed. Others feel like they just fall out going only 2-3 feet. (Probably the 27 grain ss195lf)
I haven't cleaned my gun with any solvents or anything other then dry cleaning with the little cleaning kit that came with it. Think I should just keep trying to "break" the barrel in still? With or without lube? Get actual gun lube? The silicone stuff just keeps like drying up after a few days. I would lube them up and next day or day after shoot a couple rounds.
The last few days it did FTE. late at night only have one round in the chamber, empty mag, pulled trigger no case ejection, the "empty mag stay open" lever didn't hold the slide open either.
I noticed last time I took apart the slide and putting the extraction arm back on that pushing it down by hand sometimes the spring appeared to catch on its slot it rides in sandwiched between the slide and the arm. Maybe my extraction arm isn't allowing the casing to extract and the extraction pin is stopping the slide from traveling back all the way, which is why the slide didn't lock open from the empty mag?
1.5 hours after the single round fte I fired the heavier bullets(ss197sr) and got about 3 jams. Mostly new bullets failing to enter. Relubed the casings of all the rounds going in the mag. Had no jams but I only fired 4 rounds. 3 ss197sr's and 1 ss195lf.
I know this is all inconsistant firing practice shooting only a few at a time. etc. Would some very fine sandpaper taken to the chamber help or is that a big no no? Best taken to my local gunshop so they can polish the chamber for me and that will solve it?
The first question I should have asked is: Why get a second barrel for the FiveSeven? Longer? I'm a total gun noob especially out here in california. A quick google shows threaded jarvis barrel. Flash hiders probably illegal in california on a hand gun. I don't even bother thinking about it. But I'll keep it in mind the next time I pickup a box of five seven ammo.
Last box ran me 23.99$ of ss195lf
Sorry for no having anything to contribute to your problem. if it helps the last box of ss195lf is LOT: FNB09J910-005 My new box of ss196sr is just stamped 1007969020 on the inside top cover. probably just an unclean barrel more than the ammo.
Well any help and post criticsm is much appreciated. thanks.
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SeaHawkDriver-B
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Post subject: Re: FiveseveN Failure to Eject  Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:30 am |
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It seems to me that the FiveseveN has some FTE/FTF problems unless it has been properly lubricated and/or broken-in. Obvoiusly some guns have this issue, and other do not. AND, some guns only manifest this issue when you change things, like using ProMag magazines, different rate mag springs, or while using the +10 extension baseplates.
It can reasonably assumed that several variables are at play here.
I got the Jarvis barrel becusae it was a one-piece threaded barrel that I needed for my suppressor. Apparently there is another option now (which i did not know about at the time) where Tornado technologies can weld an additional length onto the factory barrel and thread it as such.... Personally i've looked at the Jarvis barrel and the machining is fantastic, maybe even superior to the factory setup, so I won't waste any time wondering if the Tornoado-Tech was a better choice. Personally, I like having multiple barrels for the gun, both for longevity and interchangability.
I'm going to give my gun a thoroughly cleaning, lube it up well, and cycle 300 rounds through it this weekend. Give it another cleaning, and hopefully it should work flawlessly from now on.
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Post subject: Re: FiveseveN Failure to Eject  Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:18 pm |
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Or you might try polishing your chamber.
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Post subject: Re: FiveseveN Failure to Eject  Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:35 am |
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I second Jay's opinion.
Inc, check your messages.
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I throw sub-MOA rocks.
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Never Enough
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Post subject: Re: FiveseveN Failure to Eject  Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:43 pm |
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Weak magazine springs= Extraction issues funny but true
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