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Megatron
04-06-2007, 09:14 PM
I first saw this on CNN Headline News today. This is from WDSU in New Orleans.

Here's the link to the article:

www.wdsu.com/news/11533664/detail.html

The father is not fit to raise his kid. :mad:

jmz5
04-06-2007, 09:19 PM
Wow, just wow. :mad:

btown02
04-06-2007, 09:31 PM
There are people like that at shops and gun shows all the time, it's enough to make you sick.

Megatron
04-06-2007, 09:43 PM
it's enough to make you sick.

The father's actions were sickening.

There are only two things that I'll call a "chopper". Those are helicopters and motorcycles with extended front forks.

Medula Oblongata
04-06-2007, 10:35 PM
"...Reese also said he'll sell AK-47s only to police officers now..."

Umm, weren't the NOPD officers the one's marching around with 'assault rifles,' pilliaging, murdering, and taking everyone else's guns away???

Hardly the type I would consider selling ANY firearm to. But hey, that's just me.

Something smells fishy about this story. Sounds almost to me like this was the work of a 'ringer.' I wonder who the guy is working for. "Chopper" indeed.. Sounds like Sarah Brady has a new boyfriend and he was trying to make a name for himself.. I bet that if the pawn scum had sold to him, we would now be watching a video of the sale from the 'fathers' camera.

Megatron
04-06-2007, 11:26 PM
Something smells fishy about this story. Sounds almost to me like this was the work of a 'ringer.' I wonder who the guy is working for. "Chopper" indeed.. Sounds like Sarah Brady has a new boyfriend and he was trying to make a name for himself.. I bet that if the pawn scum had sold to him, we would now be watching a video of the sale from the 'fathers' camera.

Since you've mentioned that, it DOES smell fishy. It wouldn't really surprise me if that old hag Sarah would think of a scheme like that and have someone else do her dirty work in order to further her twisted cause.

Cyberfly
04-06-2007, 11:27 PM
That is beyond sad.
There is such a huge difference between educating your child in firearm safety and being a complete dumb@$$ with your two year old.
Thats the kind of behavior (regardless of what the police said...the father technically broke no laws) that fuels liberals and gets Child Welfare to step in and take your kids away.

panzermk2
04-07-2007, 01:32 AM
interesting but what about parents rites to teach and raise thier kids as they see fit? MO and I have talked about this subject many times. As of today my 5 year old knows how to lube,de-prime weatherby 378 on a single stage press. She also sat with me while I broke a live 9mm round down to make a dummy round and learned all the different parts of a cartridge, now can name each correctly and what they do.
MO's daughters have been doing this sort of stuff for sometime.

To a libtard from Chicago me teaching her this would send them into fits and they would be calling DCFS instantly.

ARE we now being that reactionary knee jerker?

Megatron
04-07-2007, 08:39 AM
interesting but what about parents rites to teach and raise thier kids as they see fit? MO and I have talked about this subject many times. As of today my 5 year old knows how to lube,de-prime weatherby 378 on a single stage press. She also sat with me while I broke a live 9mm round down to make a dummy round and learned all the different parts of a cartridge, now can name each correctly and what they do.
MO's daughters have been doing this sort of stuff for sometime.

There's nothing wrong with teaching kids everything about firearms. For one thing, kids learn how to respect firearms and how to handle them in a safe manner. However, the father who was in the pawn shop with his 2-year old son should've used his head. What father in their right mind would do something as stupid as showing and telling their kid how to kill people, especially out in the public?

Megatron
04-07-2007, 12:37 PM
I was just told by a reliable source that recording audio in a store is against federal law. In that case, the words that the father said were totally made up. It was pointed out to me that if the father's words were recorded, then the shop manager's words should've been recorded too. However, the manager's words were not recorded while he spoke.

This was made up to further the anti-gunners' agenda.

Medula Oblongata
04-07-2007, 02:10 PM
There is no federal law anywhere that prevents the audio recording of anyone in a store.. I can record anything I want, anywhere I want, and with the exception of a few states that require both parties know of telephone monitoring (most only require one of the parties know), I can record my phonecalls too. The best thing to do is assume that if you are in a public space, you are being audio and video recorded.

If you go to youtube, you will find thousands of clips released by police agencies, studios, property owners, etc. where robberies were recorded both audio and video. They are on TV every night.

As a private property owner, you have the absolute right, privledge, freedom to record anything you want, barring child pornography. Hell, its not illegal in many states to sneak into your neighbors house and install surveillance equipment, even if you turn around and sell than video on the internet.. Ask me how I know that one..

Cyberfly
04-07-2007, 03:54 PM
Hell, its not illegal in many states to sneak into your neighbors house and install surveillance equipment, even if you turn around and sell than video on the internet.

Remind me to frisk you before I let you in the house, okay bud?! :D

Medula Oblongata
04-07-2007, 04:15 PM
I respect other people's soverign property. However, I was part of an investigation several years ago where a woman found pictures of herself on the internet (while naked in the shower, having relations with her husband, etc) while doing genealogical research.. Long story short, when it was determined her husband was NOT the one doing it, we found small camera's installed in the attic, with wires connecting her neighbors home..

We determined that he installed them before the family bought the house, therefore he had not trespassed against them. We went to Phoenix PD, brought in the Feds.. No avail. No laws were broken. They had never given him notice to cease and decist. That they didn't know he was doing it was not important. They had not done anything to stop him..

We never let the neighbor know that we knew.. Then had his wife come over and simulate relations with the neighbor's husband.. The guy shot himself the next afternoon (his wife was at her sister three state's away with their only car, check books, ATM cards, cash, kids, etc.) and I say good riddance.

N.Franklin
04-07-2007, 11:19 PM
My 3 year old daughter can tell the difference between a AK, M4, and M14 and helps me clean guns when I get home form the range. Never told her to mow people down grand theft auto style though, but my kids will never be gun shy.

HeavyArms
04-08-2007, 11:18 AM
My daughter is older(10) but she knows how to handle my guns, take them down,clean them load them and if need be shoot them. My GF got her first gun from me for her Bday in March and is addicted to shooting now. My daughter even had to unload and dechamber a round at a friends house. She was spending the night and the friends father was at work,mother just ran to the store. an Older sister was watching the girls sleep over for a bit. wel i gues the girls brother was showing off and got the fathers pistol. Haley asked him to put it down and told the older sister. everyone was afraid to touch it and the brother kept going for it so Haley picked it up, dropped the clip,locked the slide back cecked for a load and asked the older sis to put it away tll her parents were home. I taughter her to even call the cops if need be and she cant just walk home. Kids with guns dont kill people ignorant or stupid kids with guns kill people. I trust Haley with all my weapons (the ones she can actualy use lol) adn as i was raised she knows not to touch them unless it may be adanger to anyone in the house. some of my friends thought i was crazy to show her how to shoot and even extremes in self defense but i never want my child to wife to be a victom.

Medula Oblongata
04-08-2007, 11:33 AM
I would not recommend that you teach your children to pick up other's weapons, regardless of the situation. It was extremely dangerous of her to unload that pistol. She should not be praised. The message of "Stop, don't touch, leave the area, and tell an adult" is the only acceptable message to give to children when teaching them about handling weapons outside of your presence. Anything else is a recipe for disaster, totally irresponsible, and likely to cause the serious injury or death on a child.

On what planet were you raised that it was OK to handle other people's firearms outside of their presence? Is a 10 year old, or most adults for that matter, qualified to handle a weapon they have never seen before, let alone been trained on??? If the military wouldn't allow that, and they don't, I can emphatically say that it is completely rediculous that a 10 year old be allowed to.

Were that my child, she'd be in B I G trouble.

BTW, I find your handle to be detestable. Apparently a lack of intelligent discretion isn't limited to your parenting ability.

btown02
04-08-2007, 03:25 PM
I have a couple of handguns with light, and I mean very light trigger pulls. A person could pick up one of them and have a bad accident without even trying.

HeavyArms
04-08-2007, 08:00 PM
Shoot ill only have an edited version lol. Im sorry you dont agree with my teachings and i never meant to detest you with my screen name. If it needs to be changed ask me. I figured on an adult site (being about guns and the legal age to buy makes most adults) that some could laugh or ignore words. It takes a whole lot more then a name or taunt to make me detested. I respect everyone till shown other wise ad dont internet fight. For somereason the government didnt train us for that haha. I will take all your thought on age and control into acount and learn as most of you serve or have served for our great country. I do ask that you look deeper at someone other then a name or reply on the net. Now saying im unintelligent and a bad parent isnt very nice and shows you only look so deep but thats your assumption and though i dont agree and im sure meeting me would change your mind i can respect your opinion and am in no way offended.......Hal

N.Franklin
04-08-2007, 09:48 PM
I have a couple of handguns with light, and I mean very light trigger pulls. A person could pick up one of them and have a bad accident without even trying.


Thats how I like my 1911s too.

wetwrks
04-09-2007, 12:15 AM
Shoot ill only have an edited version lol. I figured on an adult site (being about guns and the legal age to buy makes most adults) that some could laugh or ignore words.


Actually there are some individuals on here who are "young". I have seen posts about individuals finally being old enough to buy a gun. You also need to take into account that this is the internet and the young'uns do make their way around it quite well. If the internet were around like this when I was a kid I would have been planted here quite often. Then again I was reading the Anarch Cookbook when in gradeschool. But that is another matter entirely. :D

HeavyArms
04-09-2007, 07:04 PM
I know what you mean. The Acook book was small time when i was starting HS. Had the nice nitro,nitrate bombs and shape charges pretty well undercontrol by then too. just that i figure most have been subject to or can ignore things they dont care for. But then you have those like mr Sharpton and Jackson who look to get offended. My intensions are only to read, learn and find others who like to shoot. Not to bother or be all in anyones face. with my mouth like a Navy man im very very suprised my daughter doesnt cuss herself. instead she tells me to be more civil and not such an animal..haha. in the imortal words of Ozzy "if i cant cuss what the F*** am i going to talk about?" haha. shoot in the field if im not cursing HQ would think i was dead..haha

Medula Oblongata
04-09-2007, 07:53 PM
I still find nothing about what you write, or how you say it, funny in the slightest.

It speaks volumes as to your character that you would choose a handle with TWO implied expletives in it. Do you see anyone else doing that?

Yes, I think you should change your handle... To "FknDumbFkr." What on Earth does Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton have to do with your poor decisions???

Nothing.

That is nothing more than an attempt to justify your behaviour and belittle those who disagree with you. I fail to see why we should, in your words, "ignore what we don't like..what you do." I think you have it backwards, being a noob and all. You should strive NOT to piss off everyone you come into contact with, instead of being "in-your-face" about it.

Yes, I can ignore you.. I fully intend to. However, your choices up to this point don't exactly illuminate you in a good light. In fact, I'll be suprised if you're still here in a month, if you continue to flap your gums.

Oh, and one more thing. Since it is a violation of federal law to posess materials used in explosives manufacturing or to detonate an explosive device, I would recommend you not refrence your illegal activities from years past. We don't tolerate discussion of illegal activities here, no matter how far in the past they were.