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Megatron
03-06-2007, 01:07 AM
Here's the link to the letter below:

http://nugeboard.tednugent.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/288826.html

It looks like Jim Zumbo is very serious about keeping his word. :) According to the letter, it seems that Zumbo has seen the light and the error of his ways.

jmz5
03-06-2007, 09:09 AM
He sounds sincere.

cchristrules60
03-06-2007, 09:31 AM
It definetly seems that he has been educated.

Speaking from my personal experience I am a reformed "Fudd". I have been hunting since I was 10 , 27 now, and have never seen a need in these "military" style rifles in hunting. Back in the 90's when they passed the original AWB I was in favor of it. I believed that people had no need in this type of rifle for personal defence or hunting. It did not dawn on me that this was a constitutional issue. The reason why is that I wasn't hearing about the constitutional side of the story in the media. I only heard the dumb activist shout out how these weapons were being purchased by criminals in legal ways. We all know that this is not true.

Until this past year I really had not looked at handguns in a very good light, atleast not the semi-automatic type. The only thing that you see in the movies is guns being used in a negative manner. This unfortunetly is how many people are introduced to guns. Now I own a FNP-40 and will be buying a kel-tec 9mm in April.

I also never really thought about shooting military style rifles or handguns as "fun" until this past year when i actually started shooting for fun (and spending lots of money doing so). :SS Sure I shot my 22. and did some clay target shooting but I also used these for hunting so there was no evil in it.

I guess that what I am trying to say is that ignorance is easy and contaigous. But I have been educated through research and friends like you guys and gals. Heck I am even going to a friends of the NRA meeting in two weeks. In the past I had been told that the NRA were basically a bunch of "gun toten Davidians" waiting to overthrow the Gov.

Enlightenment is great!

I think that in the long run this mess with Zumbo will turn out to help him and our RKBA. I think that he has been enlightened, now maybe he can help our cause.

Thank you for reading my ramblings and thank you helping to enlighten this former "Fudd".

healthcommando
03-06-2007, 10:17 AM
Yes, this is a much better letter. Sometimes God uses splits and divisions to further a good cause.
I don't know how many of you agree with this, but I really don't like hunting. I like shooting and collecting guns.
I do hunt occasionally and support hunters and hunting, but it is really not a priority for me. Zumbro may get back into a fairly good spot to help unify these two sides of gun ownership.
Anyways, the last part of the letter meant the most to me. My hope is that a step backward will end in two steps forward.

EARS
03-06-2007, 01:01 PM
We all have made statements that we later regret. Some are made of emotion, some incorrect facts, etc. In this case I have to give the guy credit. He was wrong, he was shown he was wrong, he admits he was wrong, and now he trying to repair the damage he did by his false statements. My hat goes off to him. I hope he and many others will learn from this incident.

black campbell
03-06-2007, 06:15 PM
That's more like it.

wetwrks
03-06-2007, 07:39 PM
This is closer to what I wanted and expected.

Now the test of time.

Ginnunggap
03-06-2007, 10:10 PM
Bravo! Just keep it up with deeds, not just words.

Medula Oblongata
03-07-2007, 08:28 PM
I've reflected upon this for some time. I like what I read, but I also remember the photo's of Zumbo with Kerry, Cliinton, Gore, Schumer, etc.

I am hopeful that he means what he said, but because of his prior activities (mainly being a whore for liberal candidates), I am terribly sceptical. I think there will be very little damage that he can repair from what he caused, regardless of how hard he tries or how much he wants it.

I will wait for him to do what he claims, but I am not going to proclaim him "cured" because of another photo opportunity, this time with Nugent and a pink AR. Zumbo's life can be summed up with photo's, and to this point he seems to be in the same mode as before. Or, "put out a PR photo and hope that nobody reads the captions, or the context."

His road to forgiveness with me will be long, and paved with his sweat and toil undoing the damage he has caused at the same time as preventing any further degredation of our civil liberties.

healthcommando
03-08-2007, 12:03 AM
Hear, Hear, MO. We'll see if it's doublespeak or sincere...

USG
03-08-2007, 01:55 AM
Hmmmm.... I'm not duped.

For starters, the kind of beliefs that he expressed in his initial diatribe sounded to me like long-held views. In a brutally candid moment, he told us what he thinks of the 2nd Amendment: not much. Sincere people don't abandon years of attiude and do a 180 and suddenly become heart-felt supporters of the opposite side within a couple of weeks. I say "follow the money", or Mr. Zumbo's sudden lack thereof, as an explanation of his new-found 2nd Amendment advocacy.

Second, it's still all about hunting and target shooting with this guy. He really doesn't get it. But I don't expect him to - - either ever or in the near future. It's just not on his radar screen. Rather than act like, say a whore gun writer who will pen anything for a freebie, I'd have more respect for him if he just said, "Hey, sorry I offended everyone and made an ass of myself, but I'm a n ignorant old and out-of-touch Fudd and I don't like those guns, and I still don't think they should be used for hunting... but I misspoke and I support an American's right to own them." Something that doesn't patronize us and pretend were a bunch of idiots who don't know what he is all about.

Finally, I'd guess this new letter was ghost-written. Maybe by his buddy Nugent, who is working hard to prop him up.

If he wants respect again, he needs to do his penance. Just go away for awhile and when he really has figured out why he was wrong - - maybe 6 months or a year from now - - come back and explain it to us and ask forgiveness. Then we'd think he was sincere. And not just wanting his free hunts and easy money back.

papatobette
03-09-2007, 02:20 PM
To quote Zumbo's most recent letter "...my money where my mouth should have been, and where my heart and soul have always been." Sorry, but much like the pink AR, that strains the limits of credibility. Perhaps I am a reformed closet FUDD myself, and perhaps I still feel a bit duped and betrayed by Zumbo's first appology letter (which I accepted on it's face) but as others have already said, time and actions will dictate whether or not Zumbo will be truly accepted back into the large tent of gun owners, shooters and hunters.

AngryAndy
03-11-2007, 01:55 AM
He states ".. my own lack of experience .... " : how could he be that ignorant ? I thought he was some type of expert. All he would have to do is go to any gun range in the U.S.A. and chances are he would find himself surrounded by AR-15 enthusiasts etc..

He is just trying to cover his ass to save his career. Which is different than how he really feels, or more importantly, how he votes.

I am glad this happened because it exposes these types of gun owners and forces a debate within the gun community that hopefully forces them to realize that a.) if we go..., they go..., and b.) ...there is far more of us than they realize.

I for one am sick of hearing politicians and news people always separating hunters from other gun owners like they are the good guys and we are the crazy nuts. And it's ok to ban our guns for shooting paper targets at a range, but it's not ok to ban a hunters gun used to blow the head off a wood chuck. They say all serial killers start by killing animals first, then graduate to humans; thus, using the serial killer profile , logic dictates we should be more afraid of hunters then "assault weapon" owners who shoot holes in paper.

Still, I appreciate the fact that he did apologize. And some of my best friends are hunters.

TripleTap
03-14-2007, 12:51 PM
"He is just trying to cover his ass to save his career"

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