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sturmgewehr
02-16-2007, 02:32 AM
So, I know most of you are former military, current military or LEO. Tell us about your service.

Here's my background.

I enlisted in the USMC in 1986, I was a shake and bake. I went to boot camp in 1987. I enlisted as 0311 (rifleman) although I maxed out my ASFAB and could have done just about anything. For me, the honor was being a Marine ground pounder.

I went to SOI at Camp Pendleton, CA. In boot camp I took company high shooter with a 242 out of a possible 250. This was done in a down pour... but I had an advantage. In high school I talked my mom into buying me an AR15 for my birthday present and I taught myself to be a rifleman early on. I proudly gave my PMI the range flag...

In boot camp I was screened for a security clearance and didn't realize it. I thought everyone was pulled out of training and asked questions like "are you a communist" or "have you ever had sex with an animal". As it turns out, I was being screened for a top secret security clearance during the hight of the Cold War. Wee.

Since I unwittingly passed the screening, I was shipped to NSB Bangor. That's short for Naval Submarine Base, Bangor... as in Washington state. There I performed many roles while guarding our nations most highly prized secrets. Keep in mind, during the Cold War NSB Bangor was he only refit facility for the Trident Nuclear Submarine program and SWFAC.

Once you got there, you never left.

If you've ever heard of FAST, then you'll know that we pioneered the concept within the USMC at Bangor.

For one year I served as a Counter Sniper at the Barracks.

Well, that's about it for me. Oh, here's a pic of the entrance to our barracks. Since the facility was highly classified, pictures past this point were prohibited. Well, we technically weren't supposed to have camera's anyway... :p But to keep myself out of Leavenworth, I'll refrain from posting anything more detailed. :)

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/Forums/marbar_ban_pho001.jpg

I was honorably discharged a few weeks prior to Desert Storm.

So, let's hear about your military service.

vitaliy
02-16-2007, 04:05 AM
Ex Russian navy reserve. Rank: Lt.-nt junior. Education: Mritime higher education school. Location(not current): Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy Russian federation.Profession military: btl station#3 commander on llight submarine destroer. profession sivil: navigator. Immigrated to USA 14 yrs ago , wright after breake up of Soviet union. Curent status: marryed with three children. One son and two doughters.

Medula Oblongata
02-16-2007, 04:09 AM
ЗДОРОВАТЬСЯ (I hope that is the correct translation for hello :))

приветствие

vitaliy
02-16-2007, 04:25 AM
ЗДОРОВАТЬСЯ (I hope that is the correct translation for hello :))

приветствие
'ZDAROVA' that is. Wow where did you lirn that? You are wright on the money. :applause:

Medula Oblongata
02-16-2007, 04:44 AM
I have a friend who's Russian, and another who was a US Army voice intercept translator.

I know a very few words, like thank you, hello, goodbye, goodnight, etc. Not much, and certainly not even conversationally, but enought to be polite.

I got the spelling from a russian dictionary that I keep in my duty bag, there are a lot of Russian businessmen in Omaha, and occaisonally they do get lost. :)

vitaliy
02-16-2007, 04:59 AM
I have a friend who's Russian, and another who was a US Army voice intercept translator.

I know a very few words, like thank you, hello, goodbye, goodnight, etc. Not much, and certainly not even conversationally, but enought to be polite.

I got the spelling from a russian dictionary that I keep in my duty bag, there are a lot of Russian businessmen in Omaha, and occaisonally they do get lost. :)
SPOSIBO DROOG ! : ( thank you my frend) :)

Medula Oblongata
02-16-2007, 05:01 AM
pjost! (thats how "you're welcome" sounds to me)

vitaliy
02-16-2007, 05:07 AM
pjost! (thats how "you're welcome" sounds)
Wery close. : 'POZHALUSTA'

Medula Oblongata
02-16-2007, 05:09 AM
Hmmm.. Well, I've always wanted an excuse to go and take a Russian language class at the community college... :D

I may have to go and enroll for the summer semester

vitaliy
02-16-2007, 05:18 AM
Hmmm.. Well, I've always wanted an excuse to go and take a Russian language class at the community college... :D

I may have to go and enroll for the summer semester
..... or have some vodka vith russian frends on ocasion and i think you'd do just fine.

Medula Oblongata
02-16-2007, 05:34 AM
wodka!

I actually like Stolichnaya :)

EARS
02-16-2007, 06:26 AM
USMC from 1963-1973. Was a Investigator with the Criminal Investigation Division for the last six years. After being discharged I worked for ADT till 1975. From 1975 till 1981 I was a Police Officer with the Federal Protective Service, assigned to Rochester, New York. Left for more money and joined Eastman Kodak. Was laid off Dec 89. Worked for Honeywell Security Systems till 2001 when I got my PI License and started my own Alarm Response Service here in Rochester.

sturmgewehr
02-16-2007, 08:20 AM
Ex Russian navy reserve. Rank: Lt.-nt junior. Education: Mritime higher education school. Location(not current): Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy Russian federation.Profession military: btl station#3 commander on llight submarine destroer. profession sivil: navigator. Immigrated to USA 14 yrs ago , wright after breake up of Soviet union. Curent status: marryed with three children. One son and two doughters.
Wow, a fellow Cold Warrior from the other side of the iron curtain! :)

So you were a sub hunter, that's cool.

I never set foot on a Trident, our security clearance stopped at the edge of the wharf. We were only there for land based security of the nuclear weapons (in those days it was C4 missiles).

Anyway, glad you immigrated to the U.S. :)

vitaliy
02-16-2007, 02:04 PM
Wow, a fellow Cold Warrior from the other side of the iron curtain! :)

So you were a sub hunter, that's cool.

I never set foot on a Trident, our security clearance stopped at the edge of the wharf. We were only there for land based security of the nuclear weapons (in those days it was C4 missiles).

Anyway, glad you immigrated to the U.S. :)
Yep. A weppons oficer to be exact(oficial designation). But my specific traning onvolved assist in navigation of a small sub hunter in arial aquatic demining ops. I heve naver set my foot on a AKULA ether but i watched them com and go in and out of the harbor for 6 1/2 years. Back then i didnt even know what i wose looking at. Needless to say i didn't dare to ask any one, but just buy looking at them i new it's a bad ass. But to the point, it's allways a good thing to meet a fellow oficer from the other side of cartoone. There is another guy that i met in wisconsin wile in a business trip, he has actualy served on trident(i am pretty sure) as a electrical enginer, back in 70's 80's. That's were i lirned explosive properties of house rum & cocacola mix :cheers: . Nice to meet all of you guys.And thank you for yor hospitality.

UltraFudd
02-16-2007, 02:48 PM
Retired US Navy Surface Warfare Officer

76-80 USS Glover (FF-1098) [Electrical Officer, 1ST LT, CIC/Electronic Warfare Officer]
80-82 2nd MarDiv FMF (3rdBn/10thMar) [Battalion (2nd Bn, 8th MAR) and Regimental (8th Marines) Naval Gunfire Officer]
82-84 USS Mount Whitney (LCC-20) [2nd Fleet Navigator]
85-86 USS Oliver Hazard Perry (FFG-7) [Operations and Combat Systems Officer]
87-88 USS Leftwich (DD-984) [Operations Officer}
89 Royal Naval College, Greenwich, UK [Foreign Exchange Student, Advanced Studies]
90-92 USS John Rodgers (DD-983) [Executive Officer and Acting Commanding Officer]
92-94 ONI/SPEAR, Washington, DC [Deputy division director]
94-Present: As far from the ocean as I could get.

Hey Vitaliy - I was in your neighborhood in the spring of '83. Around North Cape into the Barents with NATO Striking Fleet Atlantic and the Kitty Hawk battle group when we went rattling the bear's cage. What was the type ship your were on - NATO class name? Was it a Krivak - or smaller like a Petya?

Cyberfly
02-16-2007, 03:39 PM
Nothing as exciting as what you guys did.
US Navy from 1985-1992. Was a Missile Technician (enlisted) on the USS John Adams, then re-upped for Trident C4-backfit. Assigned to USS Georgia and maintained the new Trident missile systems there. Shore duty rolled around and I became a Master At Arms and really loved it.
Got hurt (pretty bad) and got medical retirement. Worked for the State of Oklahoma as a Compliance and Enforcement Officer for the Department of Environmental Quality and moonlighted as a Deputy Sheriff for our small county.
VA retired me about 3 years ago and I'm pretty much a stay at home dad for the most part and occassionally fill in at the SO as needed.
I wish I could say I was some kind of special forces, but by the time I even learned what they even were, I was already 'stuck' in submarine service. Can't complain though. It was good duty and I learned a lot.
Plus, as a missile technician, we stood the only underway armed posts at launcher.
Oh well. Thats me in a nutshell.

G-MAN
02-16-2007, 04:17 PM
'89-'94 USMC

Primary MOS, 0861 Marine Artillery Scout Observer\Naval Gunfire Spotter. Mostly support the Naval Gunfire side.

I was transferred to Marine Security Forces just after Kuwait was invaded, but I completed training and was stationed on board the USS Missouri (BB-63) from Feb '92 till she decom'd in April '93. From thier I was reassigned to Marine Barracks North Island. Can talk about that to much!

After I finished up there, I went out to the 1st RPV unit in 29 Palms. We used the camara's on those planes to call in Artillery.

G-MAN
Semper Fi

MarinePMI
02-16-2007, 06:10 PM
USMC '87 - 98.
PMOS (First hitch) 2531 - Field Radio Operator
SMOS 0331 - Machine Gunner (don't ask, they had a school slot, I volunteered)
Cat B MOS 8531 - Marine Primary Marksmanship Instructor

Second hitch:
PMOS 0241 - Imagery Analyst (I looked at interesting pictures)
Cat B MOS 8531 - Marine Primary Marksmanship Instructor

Stationed with 2nd FSSG, 24th MEUSOC, JTF-Bravo and a couple of other units...

USAFR '98- 05
1N071 - Senior Operational Intelligence Analyst

Operation Enduring Freedom/Operation Iraqi Freedom I - 2003

BTW SG,

I worked with quite a few of the FAST guys while with JTF-Bravo during the first gulf war as well as when with the MEUSOC...interesting folks... :D You didn't by chance know a Sgt Newton did you? Served with FAST in Panama during Op. Just Cause...

abpt1
02-16-2007, 07:11 PM
I watch the military channel if that counts oh and mail call too. :D
:flag: :flag: :flag:



But all jokes aside I would like to say Thank you to all you guys that served and god bless.

rangermonroe
02-16-2007, 08:12 PM
88-92 USA Infantry

88-91 1/75th RRGT. Busted up my knee fast roping out of a mock up... off to leg land for the last year.

91-91 2/24 Attack helicopter Bn

Medula Oblongata
02-16-2007, 08:19 PM
Hey Monroe, what Ranger class did you attend? :)

rangermonroe
02-16-2007, 08:23 PM
Ranger school or RIP?

No clue on RIP,

But I went to RS in sep, oct, nov 90. I am at the fire station tonight and would have to check my orders to tell you the class #.

You?

Medula Oblongata
02-16-2007, 08:35 PM
11/87 squibbed...

Indoctrination Program at Ft. Lewis in 8 of 87, didn't make it through school that time around. Got bit by a tick and ended up in the hospital for awhile.. Had a second go-around after being stationed with HHC 2nd Bat at Ft. Lewis though..

Hoover 1
02-16-2007, 09:54 PM
Guaduated college with an engineering degree and decided I needed to do something different then work for an oil company. :rolleyes:

Was "accepted" into the the US Navy nuclear power program.

1979 - 1986 - OCS, Nuclear Power School, Nuclear Prototype, Sub School and then off to the fleet.

Slow attack for a while and then 4 or 5 patrols on a boomer.

Various duties - Damage Control Asst., Chem and Radcon Officer, Main Propulsion Asst., Asst. Engineer.

Vitaliy - Nice to meet you. Who would have thought that we would be talking on a gun website 20 years ago?

Thanks,

Hoover

m1p90
02-16-2007, 10:27 PM
Ears!!!! You are 63??? Congrats on your service!! :flag:
I couldn't serve do to eye sight and hypoglicemia. My father was in the korean war. My older brother served as a navigator on an A-6 and was almost shot down in the Iranian conflict in the 80's.
My younger brother joined the USMC but was killed in an accident.
My hats off to all who served in the military regardless of country.
I wish I could have help!!!!!!

EARS
02-16-2007, 10:37 PM
I joined at 17 in 1963 (Halloween Day I left for boot camp). I turned sixty this past Sept. Bad home life. Marine Corps provided to me that I could do anything I put my mind to.

panzermk2
02-17-2007, 01:54 AM
TANKER CAV, Brave Rifles, Black Horse

vitaliy
02-17-2007, 05:03 AM
Retired US Navy Surface Warfare Officer

76-80 USS Glover (FF-1098) [Electrical Officer, 1ST LT, CIC/Electronic Warfare Officer]
80-82 2nd MarDiv FMF (3rdBn/10thMar) [Battalion (2nd Bn, 8th MAR) and Regimental (8th Marines) Naval Gunfire Officer]
82-84 USS Mount Whitney (LCC-20) [2nd Fleet Navigator]
85-86 USS Oliver Hazard Perry (FFG-7) [Operations and Combat Systems Officer]
87-88 USS Leftwich (DD-984) [Operations Officer}
89 Royal Naval College, Greenwich, UK [Foreign Exchange Student, Advanced Studies]
90-92 USS John Rodgers (DD-983) [Executive Officer and Acting Commanding Officer]
92-94 ONI/SPEAR, Washington, DC [Deputy division director]
94-Present: As far from the ocean as I could get.

Hey Vitaliy - I was in your neighborhood in the spring of '83. Around North Cape into the Barents with NATO Striking Fleet Atlantic and the Kitty Hawk battle group when we went rattling the bear's cage. What was the type ship your were on - NATO class name? Was it a Krivak - or smaller like a Petya? Not sure on NATO class, but i will try to discribe it: (Maliy protivolodochniy kater)...Small or light untisubmarine cater. Armament: 4 battery propelled selfguiding torpedos ; 2 rocket propelled depthbomb lonchers. Bild in 60's so by the time i set my foot on one of them it was 20+ yrs old. The fun part is that the life expectancy of the ship was only 30 min if engaged in a battle. I am glad i only served 45 days on that thing as all reserve oficers reqierd onece in 3 yrs. How ever i am not sure about location you have discribed. Did you mean Barentseva sea ? If so then it's a bid far from my location at the time. Petropavlovsk is on pinensula Kamchatka directly across the passific from Alaska following the Aleutian islands chain.

Medula Oblongata
02-17-2007, 05:46 AM
Have you any photo's from your service, Vitaliy?

After the Berlin wall came down I started to collect Soviet military souvineirs. Hats, pins, photo's, etc. If you could post some photo's of yourself in uniform, that would be really neat! I'll dig up some from my time in Afganistan, Israel, South America, as well :)

sturmgewehr
02-17-2007, 09:49 AM
Have you any photo's from your service, Vitaliy?

After the Berlin wall came down I started to collect Soviet military souvineirs. Hats, pins, photo's, etc. If you could post some photo's of yourself in uniform, that would be really neat! I'll dig up some from my time in Afganistan, Israel, South America, as well :)
Ha! I did that too. I have Soviet uniforms, coins, belts, hats... I got most of the stuff during the 80's from a buddy of mine who was a college professor. He would take his classes to places like Afghanistan. He also took money he had collected from private donations to give to the mujahadeen. In exchange they would give him things he could bring home and sell (which he often sold at local gun shows). All sorts of cool Soviet military things made their way back to the U.S. with Bob.

Now that the Iron Curtain has fallen you can pick up all sorts of stuff off eBay. :p It kind of killed the unique cool factor of having Cold War era Soviet military stuff.

sturmgewehr
02-17-2007, 09:57 AM
Here's a pic of my fireplace mantle... that is, was a pic of it. My finance made me take it down for Christmas decorations (she just moved in with me 5 months ago) and now she won't let me put my little shrine back up there. :p

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/fireplace.jpg

It's funny how something you did only for 4 years of your life can completely define who you are, how you act, think and even dictate the types of friends you have in life.

UltraFudd
02-17-2007, 12:27 PM
Not sure on NATO class, but i will try to discribe it: (Maliy protivolodochniy kater)...Small or light untisubmarine cater. Armament: 4 battery propelled selfguiding torpedos ; 2 rocket propelled depthbomb lonchers. Bild in 60's so by the time i set my foot on one of them it was 20+ yrs old. The fun part is that the life expectancy of the ship was only 30 min if engaged in a battle. I am glad i only served 45 days on that thing as all reserve oficers reqierd onece in 3 yrs. How ever i am not sure about location you have discribed. Did you mean Barentseva sea ? If so then it's a bid far from my location at the time. Petropavlovsk is on pinensula Kamchatka directly across the passific from Alaska following the Aleutian islands chain.

Vitaliy, you are correct. I was describing a cruise into the Barentseva sea. We sailed north of Murmansk above the Arctic Circle and east of Novaya Zemlya.

Your ship was in the Pacific fleet and probably operated in the Sea of Okhotsk and Pacific Ocean. From what you described, your ship was what we would have called a Mirka class frigate or "MPK".

It's may be a coincidence, but one of the people from my office probably briefly interviewed you about your experiences when you came to the USA fourteen years ago. Glad to hear you are well settled here. Perhaps we'll meet sometime. You are about a hundred miles south of where I live.

black campbell
02-17-2007, 12:47 PM
It's funny how something you did only for 4 years of your life can completely define who you are, how you act, think and even dictate the types of friends you have in life.

Indeed. US Army, Arabic linguist (1995-2000.) Nothing fancy, servicewise, save Bosnia. Felt I should give something back for my adoptive country.

rangermonroe
02-17-2007, 03:35 PM
It's funny how something you did only for 4 years of your life can completely define who you are, how you act, think and even dictate the types of friends you have in life.

I think that for the great majority of us, we were undeveloped and undefined at the time of enlistment. Up until that point, parents and family defined us. Enlisting was the first time I was totally responsible for my decision and the outcome thereof.

Good or bad, you military career was/is formative to your identity.

To this day, my most trusted friend and I wore the same clothes most days. Nearly 15 years later, he can see through whatever bs I am trying to convince the both of us.

panzermk2
02-17-2007, 07:36 PM
Here's a pic of my fireplace mantle... that is, was a pic of it. My finance made me take it down for Christmas decorations (she just moved in with me 5 months ago) and now she won't let me put my little shrine back up there. :p

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/fireplace.jpg

It's funny how something you did only for 4 years of your life can completely define who you are, how you act, think and even dictate the types of friends you have in life.


Loose HER, just my opinion

Medula Oblongata
02-17-2007, 07:37 PM
Yeah, what he said!!! :)

sturmgewehr
02-17-2007, 07:52 PM
You guys are brutal. :P

Now if she told me to sell all of my guns...

panzermk2
02-17-2007, 07:55 PM
she's already on the way there you just don't see it coming yet

Medula Oblongata
02-17-2007, 08:17 PM
If she said to sell all your guns... Well, I guess 'tarring and feathering' kinda went out at in the 19th century, but I'd sure be thinking it while I packed her bags.. :D

vitaliy
02-18-2007, 01:51 AM
Have you any photo's from your service, Vitaliy?

After the Berlin wall came down I started to collect Soviet military souvineirs. Hats, pins, photo's, etc. If you could post some photo's of yourself in uniform, that would be really neat! I'll dig up some from my time in Afganistan, Israel, South America, as well :)
Yes, but I need some help with posting them. You see, my acsent is to ubareable for my PC, some times. :thinking:

Medula Oblongata
02-18-2007, 03:15 AM
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n103/medula_oblongata/Mail0026.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n103/medula_oblongata/Mail0023.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n103/medula_oblongata/Mail0021.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n103/medula_oblongata/Mail0011.jpg

Vitaliy asked me to post these for him :)

EARS
02-19-2007, 11:32 AM
No one should be able, nor more importantly want to take away an important part of you heritage. That is not love for one another. That is pure selfishness and self interest. My oldest daughter recently requested that if anything every happens to me, she would want all my Marine Corps papers, awards, medals, photos, etc. It means alot to me, it was an important time in my life. I'm sure it was in your life also. Do not give it up for anyone. Semper Fi! :flag:

Medula Oblongata
02-19-2007, 11:49 AM
In my living trust I have it specified that only my commendations are to be given to my family. Everything else is to be incinerated (excepting my honorable discharge paperwork). Everything that I did in the Army was tempered by the fact that I was always in trouble, always shaming myself. If I had it my way I would not even allow the discharge or commendations to survive me.

What I did was for myself. It was my honor and dishonor alike. Hell, i don't even want a military funeral. that part of my life is over and done. I guess I am just selfish...

blackopssweeper
04-11-2007, 04:45 PM
Hi all,
I figure this is as good a place as any for my first post. Ive owned some rifles before (a couple Bushmasters, a Maadi, and an Arsenal) but I just bought my first sidearm a few weeks ago (a Five-seveN USG... of course). I love the forum and cant wait to read up on all the info contained in it.

As far as service goes, Im not even close to as seasoned as you all are (but I look forward to getting there!):
United States Air Force (2005-present)
Airman First Class/E-3 (Ill tack on E-4 in June)
Munitions Systems Specialist (AFSC/MOS: 2W051)
Basic at Lackland AFB, Texas
Tech-school at Shepherd AFB, Texas
First (current) assigment at Nellis AFB, Nevada
Second assignment will be Ramstein AB, Germany (Just got my orders)

-Blackopssweeper

Medula Oblongata
04-11-2007, 04:55 PM
Welcome!

And try not to fall in love with a German girl.. They are trouble :)

btown02
04-11-2007, 05:05 PM
I figure this is as good a place as any for my first post.
Welcome to the forum.

jmz5
04-11-2007, 05:12 PM
Welcome the the forum blackopssweeper.

Hoover 1
04-11-2007, 08:21 PM
Blackopssweeper,

Welcome to the boards.

You will love Ramstein. :MM I spent a bit of time there 20 years ago and more recently, about 3 years ago.

Good luck,

Hoover

EARS
04-11-2007, 09:56 PM
Welcome to the forum.

panzermk2
04-12-2007, 01:08 AM
Welcome the the forum blackopssweeper.

What he said :MM :MM

Hellamog
04-12-2007, 05:48 AM
Started taking the green weenie in 1981 at Fort McClellan, Al.
MOS Training for helicopter avionics Fort Gordon, Ga.
Duty Post Fort Polk, La.
JOIN THE ARMY.......SEE THE SOUTH. :p

panzermk2
04-12-2007, 12:50 PM
I was stationed at/on the Fulda gap mid 80's. It's a great place to be, Beer is great, Food is great and the German farmers daughters will rock your world. Western Germany is finaly recovering from the influx of eastern Germans and thier mentality

blackopssweeper
04-13-2007, 12:05 PM
Thats what I keep hearing: Great Beer, great food, and great girls. No German farmers daughters for me though... A little Italian girl from back home already tricked me into slipping a ring on my finger ;)

btown02
04-13-2007, 01:12 PM
Sorry, never served in the Military, don't have a clue what it is. :)

Aoguma
04-13-2007, 01:32 PM
Despite a low number in the last draft, I never got pulled in and went later as an expat. Got to see piles of bones no one should have to remember.

Justice-BOP. Perfect shooter, all courses of fire, in my LEO class despite being handicapped with that Buick bumper equivalent of a pistol called the P85 and that danged politically correct no-lead frangible illusion of a bullet. My respect for the pistol went up after that. Our favorite Uncle remains as he always has despite being in a different agency.

zeros
04-13-2007, 02:13 PM
Currently a 1st year cadet with US Army ROTC at the Rochester Institute of Technology (the best battalion in the entire east), I'm an engineering technology major. I'm going to try to get involved with the ARDEC at Picatinny Arsenal, but barring some extremely crappy MOS I plan on serving til retirement.