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p99guy
02-15-2007, 01:04 AM
BLOOMBERG COALITION MAYOR HELD IN CONTEMPT BY FEDERAL JUDGE IN GUN CASE
BELLEVUE, WA – Earlier this week, a federal judge in New Orleans granted a motion that Mayor C. Ray Nagin be held in contempt for failing to abide by court orders to provide information on hundreds of seized firearms in city custody, and begin returning those guns to their rightful owners.

The Second Amendment Foundation – which is suing Nagin over the gun seizures – today said Nagin should step down or be asked to leave Michael Bloomberg’s “Mayors Against Illegal Guns” unless that group wants him as their poster child.

“Here we have a group formed by the anti-gun Big Apple mayor, whose membership includes the anti-gun Big Easy mayor, and all they have done so far is raise a Big Stink about so-called ‘weak’ gun laws,” said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb.

“Bloomberg’s claim that he only wants to remove illegal guns from the streets smacks of complete insincerity,” Gottlieb said, “when he counts among his ranks a mayor whose historic claim to infamy will be that he presided over the biggest illegal seizure of firearms from law-abiding gun owners in the history of this country. Those gun confiscations occurred without warrant, without due process and with no legal authority. If anyone knows about violating gun laws, and the state and federal constitutional gun rights of his constituents, that guy Nagin is an expert.

“But that’s just the kind of philosophy Mayor Bloomberg would embrace,” Gottlieb stated. “At least three mayors have quite Bloomberg’s coalition, and all gave pretty much the same reason for leaving. Mayors Against Illegal Guns has a far bigger, and farther reaching agenda than just disarming criminals, and every gun owner in the country knows it. What is Nagin’s role in this group? Maybe Bloomberg will appoint him to chair a committee on disarming people and leaving them defenseless. That’s what happens when you mix the Big Apple with the Big Easy. You get a Big Zero for public safety.”

Medula Oblongata
02-15-2007, 01:59 AM
De Ja Moo...

susan28
02-16-2007, 04:49 PM
sure there are legal remedies being brought to bear against Nagin and co - which is encouraging - but that doesn't help their victims, who've already endured an emergency unarmed, and it won't be a deterrent either. we're dealing with true believers here. they'd prolly *blow themselves up* if they thought it would make the guns go away. my readers here and elsewhere know i'm given to hyperbole, but in this case i don't think it's an exaggeration.

and of course it's not *all* guns they're after, just those of civilians who can't afford private security services, which were left fully-armed with weapons most people can't even own.. it sends the message that the lives of the rich are more important than everyday folk, which is very divisive and gives the impression that they view mainstream America with contempt, and that, in turn, undermines the trust these agencies wish us to have in them.

this is especially evident in corrupt places like the 'Apple and the 'Easy, and all big cities really, where there is a wider spectrum of income than in rural areas, where folks are more "equal". it's not about protecting lives, it's about protecting wealth - "wealth" being not the humble property of working folk, but a social class.

class is what drives gun control laws from the federal level on down, both here here and abroad. the fact that the original (illegal) laws were eneacted to keep guns away from Blacks in the postbellum South is evidence of this. the innocent victims of the largely prohibition-related "street" violence in today's cities are hapless cheerleaders for the gun-grabbers, who couldn't give a lick about the lives of their children *or* the officers who are caught in the crossfire - if they did they'd neutralise the black market with the same legal regulation that made "alcohol related" crime go the way of the Dodo in the 40's, not take away their only means of self defense in areas where even the police fear to tread.

heck, p99, and btown, and all you boys in blue here, y'all are like family to me, and if we were in 'Nawlins together and someone was shootin' at you, the bullet would have to go thru me first - but these folks don't see it that way. they don't view you as the people's partners in justice, they view you as their own personal security force, there to protect them from the rabble, aka people who put their backs into their living.

re: "illegal guns":

some view *all* guns as illegal, others view all gun *laws* as illegal. that's why the term "illegal" doesn't mean much when it comes to the rhetoric on either side of the debate. the difference between justice and treason in Constitutional law often comes down to who's got the most judges in their pocket, and that's a function of public opinion, which is why debate is so important and why the suppression of dissent is Job 1 for regimes whose top priority is the protection of the guilty..

susan28
02-23-2007, 07:13 PM
A United States District Judge in New Orleans has granted a motion to hold Mayor C. Ray Nagin and Police Superintendent Warren Riley in contempt for failure to provide initial disclosures and answers to discovery in a lawsuit filed by the Second Amendment Foundation.

Judge Carl J. Barbier issued a blistering rebuke to New Orleans’ defense counsel for conduct that is “wholly unprofessional” and warned that it “shall not be condoned.” Judge Barbier ordered defense counsel to reimburse SAF’s attorney $1,365. SAF is joined in the lawsuit by the National Rifle Association.

full story: http://www.libertyforall.net/?p=528

Doc LC
02-23-2007, 07:33 PM
It's about time someone is held responsible for that fiasco. I was there. The real crime is the fact that he was re-elected.

abpt1
02-23-2007, 07:43 PM
NO WAY RE ELECTED! well i dont feel sorry for N.O any more if they are that stupid look he should have charged with being a stupid ass! at the very lest

jualdeaux
02-24-2007, 12:55 AM
A United States District Judge in New Orleans has granted a motion to hold Mayor C. Ray Nagin and Police Superintendent Warren Riley in contempt for failure to provide initial disclosures and answers to discovery in a lawsuit filed by the Second Amendment Foundation.

Judge Carl J. Barbier issued a blistering rebuke to New Orleans’ defense counsel for conduct that is “wholly unprofessional” and warned that it “shall not be condoned.” Judge Barbier ordered defense counsel to reimburse SAF’s attorney $1,365. SAF is joined in the lawsuit by the National Rifle Association.

full story: http://www.libertyforall.net/?p=528

The problem is this is all hot air until/unless they actually force him and his people to DO something. Or throw him in jail.