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sturmgewehr
02-13-2007, 10:21 AM
http://www.local12.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=15039

About the officer that shot his own hand, I call BS on how he was moving the pistol across his desk.

1) What was a loaded pistol doing laying on his desk out in the open? This tells me the guy has no concept of what safe gun handling is.
2) I have yet to meet a gun that fired itself without the trigger being pulled, especially a gun laying peacefully on a desk.

He pulled the trigger.

Glock does have problems with their .40 and .45 caliber pistols, I would dare to say they suffer from subtle design flaws.

Also, the gun store owner who claims Glocks have a safety on the trigger is your typical Glocknutter. While I own and love my Glocks, I also realize they do not have a manual safety. If you pull the trigger, they go boom (this is a big reason why I own and carry Glocks, because they are fast into a fight). Putting a "safety" on a trigger is like putting a brake pedal on your gas pedal, it makes no sense. The "safe action" dingus on the Glock is completely unnecessary. Due to the internal design of the Glock, it couldn't fire without the trigger being pulled regardless of the dingus. You could pull your dingus out and the safety of the Glock would be unaffected.

Anyway, flame away. :)

EARS
02-13-2007, 10:43 AM
I have Glocks for approximately ten years. I sold my Glock 30 about a year ago, but just replaced it this past December. I have never had a miss fire, I have never had a dependibility issue with any that I have had. I am no longer an active LEO or Firearms Instructor, so I'm not in the loop for many of the "accidental shooting" reports. However, that officer who shot off his finger and the classic of the DEA Agent at schoold, shows nothing but stupidity and total disregard for safe gun handling by them. Other incidents that I have seen in news reports, on the web and heard from other LEO's were all the result of shooter error. Can there be a design problem with some of their guns, anything is possible. However I think the problem is not enough training for those handling and shoot the gun. As far as the alledged law suits, most companies today just pay the person off and the person signs a non-disclosurer form. It's cheaper than the legal fees in court. My last point would be, that if the truth was known, every hand gun type has had "accidental shooting" incidents not because of the gun, but the gun handlers. Sorry if I seemed to be ranting. I'm so tired about the negative comments and press on "unsafe handguns and long guns", when the problem is not the gun, it's hands of who the gun is in. I'm done!

sturmgewehr
02-13-2007, 10:56 AM
Well documented Glock problems with PD and civilian guns:

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/phase3.html
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/problems.html

Oh heck, here's a whole bunch of stuff about the Glock:
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/gindex2.html

And finally, a video of a "kaboom" caught on tape:
http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=Vceh44UK-8I&eurl=http%3A//www.thegunzone.com/glock/gindex2.html&iurl=http%3A//sjc-static7.sjc.youtube.com/vi/Vceh44UK-8I/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskIJPzK8oOgxDWkkIwujr1sF

thorfinn
02-13-2007, 11:41 AM
http://www.local12.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=15039
Putting a "safety" on a trigger is like putting a brake pedal on your gas pedal, it makes no sense.

Anyway, flame away. :)

As one of our 80 year old gun shop regulars says:

"it's like putting airbrakes on a turtle" :)

btown02
02-13-2007, 11:51 AM
It doesn't matter what you spray on it to make it smell good, it's still a Glock. :D

sturmgewehr
02-13-2007, 11:56 AM
It doesn't matter what you spray on it to make it smell good, it's still a Glock. :D
Like I've often said, there's no real pride in ownership with a Glock. It's ugly, looks cheap, and in my view is disposable. If I lost or broke one, I would shrug my shoulders and go get another one. They're tools in every sense of the word.

But, with that said, they do their job well... at least my 9mm's do.

Megatron
02-13-2007, 12:04 PM
It seems that officer makes Barney Fife look intelligent.

Cyberfly
02-13-2007, 01:27 PM
I would have to agree. My duty weapon for the last four years has been a 10MM Glock and I've tossed thousands of rounds down range with it. I've never had an issue with mine.
The only way I can see this happening is if the officer was playing with the weapon and it discharged. Squeeze the trigger and it will go off. That's what it is designed to do. I cannot bring myself to pity someone who carelessly handles thier firearm.