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Medula Oblongata
11-28-2006, 12:29 PM
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Gingrich+raises+alarm+at+event+honoring+those+who+stand+up+for+freedom+of+speech&articleId=d3f4ee4e-1e90-475a-b1b0-bbcd5baedd78

Gingrich raises alarm at event honoring those who stand up for freedom of speech


MANCHESTER Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich yesterday said the country will be forced to reexamine freedom of speech to meet the threat of terrorism.

Gingrich, speaking at a Manchester awards banquet, said a "different set of rules" may be needed to reduce terrorists' ability to use the Internet and free speech to recruit and get out their message.

"We need to get ahead of the curve before we actually lose a city, which I think could happen in the next decade," said Gingrich, a Republican who helped engineer the GOP's takeover of Congress in 1994.

Gingrich spoke to about 400 state and local power brokers last night at the annual Nackey S. Loeb First Amendment award dinner, which fetes people and organizations that stand up for freedom of speech.

Gingrich sharply criticized campaign finance laws he charged were reducing free speech and doing little to fight attack advertising. He also said court rulings over separation of church and state have hurt citizens' ability to express themselves and their faith.

Last night's event, held at the Radisson Hotel-Center of New Hampshire, honored a Lakes Region newspaper and a former speaker of the House for work in favor of free expression.

The Citizen of Laconia was given the Nackey S. Loeb First Amendment Award, which is named after the longtime President and Publisher of the Union Leader Corporation, owner of New Hampshire's statewide newspaper.

The Citizen scrutinized the Newfound Area School Board beginning last year over a series of e-mail discussions held before public meetings. It also used the right-to-know law to uncover costly decisions by the town of Tilton this year.

Executive Editor John Howe said the decision to pursue the stories led to at least one advertiser canceling its business with the paper.

"We try to practice what we preach, even if it costs us business," Howe said. "And it has and it will in the future.

Also honored was Marshall Cobleigh, former House speaker and a longtime aide to former Gov. Meldrim Thomson.

Cobleigh introduced an amendment to the state Constitution defending free speech. He also helped shepherd the state's 1967 right-to-know law through the Legislature.

Gingrich's speech focused on the First Amendment, but in an interview beforehand, he also hit upon wide-ranging topics.


Gingrich said America has "failed" in Iraq over the past three years and urged a new approach to winning the conflict. The U.S. needs to engage Syria and Iran and increase investment to train the Iraqi army and a national police force, he said. "How does a defeat for America make us safer?" Gingrich said. "I would look at an entirely new strategy." He added: "We have clearly failed in the last three years to achieve the kind of outcome we want."


Political parties in Presidential primary states should host events that invite candidates from both parties to discuss issues, said Gingrich, who criticized the sharpness of today's politics.


Gingrich said voters unhappy with the war, the response to Hurricane Katrina and pork barrel spending were the main drive behind the GOP's rejection at the polls. But he argued Republicans would have retained the Senate and just narrowly lost the House if President Bush had announced the departure of embattled Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld before, instead of after, the election.


Gingrich said he will not decide whether he is running for President until September 2007.


I hope this dispels the myth that "Republican's" are saviours of the Constitution. One cannot protect this country, Her people, or the ideals which She was founded upon by limiting inherent Constitutionally innumriated liberties. Republicans are the same as Democrats, nothing less - nothing more. To all of you who lambasted the last election forecasting doom and gloom, I suggest you contemplate what would have happened if the tables had been reversed. Since now we know that the author of the "Republican revolution" is nothing more than a self-aggrandizing liar I think its safe to say our rights would be equally emperiled.

Never, never, never believe any of what a politician says. Their only motivation is to gain re-election so that they may stay on the governmental welfare rolls. They care NOTHING for any freedom that would jeopardize their return to office. They will use the Constitution and Bill of Rights for toilet paper before they would allow those documents to hinder their plans.

So before you all run around like your heads are on fire and your azzes are catchin', terrified about "liberals" controling the Congress, I suggest you seriously think on what the actual difference is between the two parties.

sturmgewehr
11-28-2006, 01:24 PM
I've said for a long time that the Democrats and Republicans have more in common than they have differences. If you lift up the hood and take a peek you'll find both are equally corrupt, both lie to gain power and keep it, they all serve special interest groups and they seek the all powerful dollar.

It seems to me the two groups have taken to pandering to special interest groups and single issue voters. Beyond these talking points there is very little that separates the two parties.

I'm sick of them both and I trust neither.

Esteves
11-28-2006, 02:47 PM
I don't usually post political "stuff," but others may (or may not) be interested in this quiz http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html and take action accordingly. The simplest way to send the message is at the voting booth.

Roland L
11-28-2006, 08:02 PM
I'd be willing to bet that most people on this forum who take that quiz will show up as Libertarian's

YMMV

panzermk2
11-28-2006, 11:12 PM
ok besides the part about limiting free speech of terrorists what part was Newt wrong about?



"Gingrich sharply criticized campaign finance laws he charged were reducing free speech and doing little to fight attack advertising. He also said court rulings over separation of church and state have hurt citizens' ability to express themselves and their faith."

McCain Fiengold hosed freedom of speech massively


"Gingrich, speaking at a Manchester awards banquet, said a "different set of rules" may be needed to reduce terrorists' ability to use the Internet and free speech to recruit and get out their message."


I believe He ment something along the lines of shutting them down. Although I would not agree with this as it stands rite now, as in it's happening NOW. rite now our estimed government is shutting down sites all over the world by leaning on the governments were the sites are hosted. I have posted on this before. Again I donot agree with this approach that does not mean we should not at least discuss solutions and ideas instead of doing what we are now waiting around for the next trade tower



Newt is fare from perfect no man is. But I would take one Newt in the house/senate over 10 McCains or a 100 Specters

black campbell
11-29-2006, 12:25 PM
I'd be willing to bet that most people on this forum who take that quiz will show up as Libertarian's

YMMV

Well, I do.

panzermk2
11-29-2006, 11:16 PM
just about were I thougt I'd be


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sraynor
11-30-2006, 02:36 PM
Me, too... just one square up from Panzer's

Medula Oblongata
11-30-2006, 03:48 PM
I'm all the way to the left on the liberaterian scale.

Apparently because I don't think that foreign companies should have unfettered access to US markets, drugs should be a matter of informed adult choice (like alcohol and tobacco), and that some forms of governmental welfare benefeits are necessary (i.e. 2 years maximum lifetime benefeit), I'm a "Liberal LIberaterian."

Oh well, to each his own.

I simply want little government interfierence in my life with the exception of enforcing trade tarriffs, and stopping foreign powers from flooding our markets with cheap junk.. and preventing US companies from moving overseas to "maximize profits" while "minimizing payroll..."

Yup, I guess I am a liberal... :rolleyes:

black campbell
12-01-2006, 01:35 AM
Just a square to the conservative side, just from the top.

CPR
12-12-2006, 12:56 PM
I don't have all the politcal answers (or many for that matter), but I refuse to support a Libertarian agenda that has an open border policy. I have no answer for the drug situation. The war on drugs seems to do more harm than good, yet I'm adamantly opposed to legalizing heroine, cocaine and marijuana (legalize one, they all follow). Many self-proclaimed Libertarians I've dealt with on other boards seem more like liberals in Libertarian clothing.

I guess this leaves me out in the cold politically. The Republicans (my soon-to-be former political party) haven't done much to boost my confidence regarding their long term plans (and appear to have raped the Constitution a bit) and there's no way in hell I'll ever support the liberal/socialist agenda.

Obama in '08? ;) :p :beat: :MM

panzermk2
12-12-2006, 08:12 PM
I

I guess this leaves me out in the cold politically. The Republicans (my soon-to-be former political party) haven't done much to boost my confidence regarding their long term plans (and appear to have raped the Constitution a bit) and there's no way in hell I'll ever support the liberal/socialist agenda.

Obama in '08? ;) :p :beat: :MM


Your with alot of us. I served under R.R. and as a modern president I compare what they do to his ideas. He was not perfect but I always say WWRRD.

jmz5
12-16-2006, 12:46 PM
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bulletguy
12-19-2006, 10:16 PM
weeeeee! :MM

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